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  • So hope is no longer a plan.

    Well then. ..

    WSS

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  • W Westside Steve

    So hope is no longer a plan.

    Well then. ..

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    So hope is no longer a plan.

    Well then. ..

    WSS

    When hope fails you, theres always plan B.

    Pray

    Both are good plans when it's all you got..

  • T Tacosman

    @jcam222 said:

    You are a presumptuous fucking asshole. Your Aggie Manziel loving ass knows nothing about Browns fans and patience. You sign up today as you said because Manziel was starting and try to tell us about patience as Browns fans? Screw you. Your posts are littered with your arrogant bullshit. If you think his performance in the next two games have no impact on next years draft you are even dumber than your posts.

    Look I'm not going to stoop to your level....I know you are trying to bait me into it, but I'd just rather not.

    Manziel is the guy, and as a highly regarded first round draft pick he's going to get awhile. Let's come together to root for him together.

    @tacosman said:

    Look I'm not going to stoop to your level....I know you are trying to bait me into it, but I'd just rather not.

    Manziel is the guy, and as a highly regarded first round draft pick he's going to get awhile. Let's come together to root for him together.

    Listen I am not trying to bait you into anything. Your posts have been BELOW my level from the first one on. As far as being a highly regarded first round pick that is also pretty debatable. There is a good chance he would have made it into the 2nd round if we hadn't drafted him. There are plenty of QB "experts" with more football smarts than you or I who do not believe he is that good. yes I realize there are those that do as well. Bottom line is if you want to preach your Manziel mantra that's fine. You however have no right to come in here and talk about Browns fans not having patience. In addition position what you post as your personal feeling and conjecture as opposed to acting like its fact and you are an insider. I WAS rooting for him until I saw a game from him that showed he was clearly ill prepared and completely out of his league. I also believe the reports of him not taking preparation seriously until this week. When the guy steps on the field and makes it appear as though he prepared and at least has some NFL potential I will root for him personally. In the meantime I will root for the team as a whole like I always do.

  • I believe had he received support without every fool in Ohio breathing down his neck he'd have had us at 10-6 by the season's end.

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    3 seasons until our new head coach, let's hope they get it right this time.
  • T Tobalaz

    I believe had he received support without every fool in Ohio breathing down his neck he'd have had us at 10-6 by the season's end.

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    @tobalaz said:

    I believe had he received support without every fool in Ohio breathing down his neck he'd have had us at 10-6 by the season's end.

    Sometimes a pronoun doesn't cut it...

    @tacosman said:

    I think we have a long way to go as a team. But stability at the qb position, which we have now, is one plus at least.

    Told y'all this one was not as bright as StockBoy.

    @bbedward said:

    He may prefer to leave if he has a better chance to start somewhere else though.

    I believe he is a man of his word, so that would be the case.

    That said his odds of starting in CLE next year did get a boost recently.

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
  • T Tacosman

    @ibleedbrown said:

    .

    You think what we saw today was "stability at the QB position?"

    Come on Stock. You know better than that. The rest of the team has to be able to be led by the guy. Did you see that?

    What we saw today was not a good game by our qb. A bad game from a position which is now stable though.

    @tacosman said:

    What we saw today was not a good game by our qb. A bad game from a position which is now stable though.

    You either need to take your meds or you are a straight up troll , maybe both.

  • First round next year will be DL&LB. Second round will be OL.

    We already have next yr's backup on the roster: Connor Shaw.

    If JF sucks, it's Connor Cook time in 2016.

    The more labels you have for yourself, the dumber they make you. "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." Paul Brown
  • W Westside Steve

    So hope is no longer a plan.

    Well then. ..

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    So hope is no longer a plan.

    Forgot to ask, "Is it ever?"

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    @westside-steve said:

    So hope is no longer a plan.

    Forgot to ask, "Is it ever?"

    @tour2ma said:

    Forgot to ask, "Is it ever?"

    Yes it certainly should be.

    And, IMO, I think it could be a better plan than burning everything down and rebuilding every season or two.

    WSS

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  • Hi, I'm Jimmy Hasbeen, owner of the Browns, and I like to rebuild every 6 months!

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  • berniedenslowB berniedenslow

    Hi, I'm Jimmy Hasbeen, owner of the Browns, and I like to rebuild every 6 months!

    @berniedenslow said:

    Hi, I'm Jimmy Hasbeen, owner of the Browns, and I like to rebuild every 6 months!

    And that might be one of the rare times I've been okay with the quick trigger. From what I've heard Joe Banner and Mike Lombardi duo was forced on the Browns by the league.

    I think either by luck or by forethought Jimmy made a good decision with the coach and front office.

    WSS

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  • W Westside Steve

    @berniedenslow said:

    Hi, I'm Jimmy Hasbeen, owner of the Browns, and I like to rebuild every 6 months!

    And that might be one of the rare times I've been okay with the quick trigger. From what I've heard Joe Banner and Mike Lombardi duo was forced on the Browns by the league.

    I think either by luck or by forethought Jimmy made a good decision with the coach and front office.

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    And that might be one of the rare times I've been okay with the quick trigger. From what I've heard Joe Banner and Mike Lombardi duo was forced on the Browns by the league.

    I think either by luck or by forethought Jimmy made a good decision with the coach and front office.

    WSS

    Not at all. That was Haslam's error from day one. He hired Banner knowing full well that eventually Lombardi would be brought on board. Him getting rid of both - let's just say Cleveland fans owe thanks to Peyton Manning.

  • W Westside Steve

    @tour2ma said:

    Forgot to ask, "Is it ever?"

    Yes it certainly should be.

    And, IMO, I think it could be a better plan than burning everything down and rebuilding every season or two.

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    Yes it certainly should be.

    And, IMO, I think it could be a better plan than burning everything down and rebuilding every season or two.

    I'd say "hope" is the worst plan in the world... if it qualified as a plan.

    But if it was a plan, then it might be second only to the annual burn-down in a list of worsts. Of course, when you are repeatedly burning down an org, it is usually followed by hoping you do better this next time.

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
  • W Westside Steve

    @berniedenslow said:

    Hi, I'm Jimmy Hasbeen, owner of the Browns, and I like to rebuild every 6 months!

    And that might be one of the rare times I've been okay with the quick trigger. From what I've heard Joe Banner and Mike Lombardi duo was forced on the Browns by the league.

    I think either by luck or by forethought Jimmy made a good decision with the coach and front office.

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    And that might be one of the rare times I've been okay with the quick trigger. From what I've heard Joe Banner and Mike Lombardi duo was forced on the Browns by the league.

    I think either by luck or by forethought Jimmy made a good decision with the coach and front office.

    Yes, forced and, yes, a great call by Jimmy to flush the pair of them.

    However, I would not attribute his decision to luck or forethought. While I think he liked neither the arm's length they imposed nor the decisions they made, e.g., Chud, I believe at the core of his reorg decision was a CEO's hatred of a padded Org Chart.

    Clear lines of authority and responsibility are a CEO's wet dream. Banner and Lombo muddied up the lines.

    Also did not hurt that he likely saw talent in Farmer and Pet.

    Just my $0.02.

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
  • berniedenslowB berniedenslow

    Hi, I'm Jimmy Hasbeen, owner of the Browns, and I like to rebuild every 6 months!

    @berniedenslow said:

    Hi, I'm Jimmy Hasbeen, owner of the Browns, and I like to rebuild every 6 months!

    The sad thing is based on the content of your posting you probably do believe you're him. Who do you think you are after you take your meds?

  • Just one thing.....................can ANYBODY remember a more [fill in the blank] thread title on this board.

    My top 3 [fill in the blanks], in no particular order:

    Nerdiest

    Pathetic

    Sophomoric

    "God is great. Beer is good. People are crazy."
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  • C Chicopee John

    Just one thing.....................can ANYBODY remember a more [fill in the blank] thread title on this board.

    My top 3 [fill in the blanks], in no particular order:

    Nerdiest

    Pathetic

    Sophomoric

    @chicopee-john said:

    Just one thing.....................can ANYBODY remember a more [fill in the blank] thread title on this board.

    Nerdiest

    more nerdiest?

  • C Chicopee John

    Just one thing.....................can ANYBODY remember a more [fill in the blank] thread title on this board.

    My top 3 [fill in the blanks], in no particular order:

    Nerdiest

    Pathetic

    Sophomoric

    @chicopee-john said:

    Just one thing.....................can ANYBODY remember a more [fill in the blank] thread title on this board.

    My top 3 [fill in the blanks], in no particular order:

    Nerdiest

    Pathetic

    Sophomoric

    I'd add 'Gay'

    "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
  • C Chicopee John

    Just one thing.....................can ANYBODY remember a more [fill in the blank] thread title on this board.

    My top 3 [fill in the blanks], in no particular order:

    Nerdiest

    Pathetic

    Sophomoric

    When the gaying gets tough, the forum turns to DieHard...

    @chicopee-john said:

    Just one thing.....................can ANYBODY remember a more [fill in the blank] thread title on this board.

    loyal

    heartfelt

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
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