Opinion Survey 12/16/14
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1. Can you remember the Browns playing a worse game than Sunday. If so, what game?
To me 30-0 is the worst score that you can lose by. Because I associate it with a humiliating loss in my childhood.
1972, I was 8 years old. The Browns and Steelers were both 8-3 and tied for First Place. The Steelers were the young up and coming team, the Browns were trying to hold on to faded glory. I lived in Steeler country. All of my family, my friends, my schoolmates ... all Steeler fans. It was me against the world. And the Steelers spanked the Browns 30-0. I remember sitting there red-faced, watching the TV screen, not believing my eyes. 30-0. The abuse I took that week just made me more of a Browns fan. But whenever I fantasize about beating a team so soundly that nothing can be questioned ... the score in my fantasy is 30-0.
Have there been worse? Ya, Opening game 99. Also, I once sat in Jacksonville, freezing my ass off the week Spergon Wynn made his start for the Browns. We did nothng. Looked helpless just like Sunday. Lost 41-0 or 48-0, something like that. I also remember a playoff game when I was even younger, against the Vikings when we lost 51-3. I still remember Fred Cox of the Vikings kicking off every five minutes. I think that one traumatized me as well.
2. Which NFL coaches deserve to be fired at the end of the year.....or will be even if they don't deserve it.?
I think Philbin is done in Miami, Smith in Atlanta, Rex is NY, Chicago is probably going to reboot ... I'm sure there are others, but hose come quickly to mind.
3. The question always asked this time of Year: What is your favorite Christmas movie?
It's a Wonderful Life
4. Which TV shows do you think have jumped the shark at this point?
I really don't watch TV shows but If I have to name one ... Castle. Castle has jumped the shark.
5. What is your opinion of this year's list of Rock N Roll Hall of Fame Inductees, those being Green Day, Bill Withers, Joan Jett and the Blackhearts, Stevie Ray Vaughn, Lou Reed, the Paul Butterfield Blues Band.
All very worthy.
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1. One that comes to mind is the Jacksonville game a few years ago(2009?), we had a +6 Turnover margin and still lost
2. Atlanta-deserved, Jets-deserved, Raiders-already fired and is an interm coach, San Fran-seems to be contract issues that filtered to the field, DC is a mess and could be out
3. National Lampoons Christmas Vacation and Christmas Story
4. One I watch that felt it did was Supernatural, I also agree with you gipper about Walking dead, specially after this season so far
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Sep 1999 against Pittsburgh when we got blown out 43-0. Drew Carey was there.
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coaches:
rex ryan - fired
tom coughlin - will be asked to retire or fired
smith -fired
trestman - fired
jim harbaugh - fired
rivera - fired
not a movie but hilarious:
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1. Can you remember the Browns playing a worse game than Sunday. If so, what game?
Honestly for me this was the worst game tied with with the game we lost against Cincy is 2007 when the playoffs were hanging in the balance. Both games we laid eggs when it mattered most.
2. Which NFL coaches deserve to be fired at the end of the year.....or will be even if they don't deserve it.?
If the Falcons miss the playoffs there's no excuse for their HC. Rex Ryan will probably get the boot too.
3. The question always asked this time of Year: What is your favorite Christmas movie?
How the Grinch Stole Christmas, we still watch it every year on VHS.
4. Which TV shows do you think have jumped the shark at this point?
Not a huge TV guy but the only show the mrs. and I were watching on time is American Horror Story. Started off good but now it just sucks, stopped watching a few weeks ago.
5. What is your opinion of this year's list of Rock N Roll Hall of Fame Inductees, those being Green Day, Bill Withers, Joan Jett and the Blackhearts, Stevie Ray Vaughn, Lou Reed, the Paul Butterfield Blues Band.
I absolutely despise Green Day. Their music was so good until 9/11 and then they went to the "America sucks man, were hardcore" route. I'm fine with criticisms of government, that's your right. But they so blatantly sold out to the lowest common denominator once people were jumping off the patriotic bandwagon.
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Here is this week's Opinion Survey. Give your opinions or answers:
1. Can you remember the Browns playing a worse game than Sunday. If so, what game?
2. Which NFL coaches deserve to be fired at the end of the year.....or will be even if they don't deserve it.?
3. The question always asked this time of Year: What is your favorite Christmas movie?
4. Which TV shows do you think have jumped the shark at this point?
5. What is your opinion of this year's list of Rock N Roll Hall of Fame Inductees, those being Green Day, Bill Withers, Joan Jett and the Blackhearts, Stevie Ray Vaughn, Lou Reed, the Paul Butterfield Blues Band.
Here is this week's Opinion Survey. Give your opinions or answers:
1. Can you remember the Browns playing a worse game than Sunday. If so, what game?
About half the games from the 1990 season!
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Here is this week's Opinion Survey. Give your opinions or answers:
1. Can you remember the Browns playing a worse game than Sunday. If so, what game?
2. Which NFL coaches deserve to be fired at the end of the year.....or will be even if they don't deserve it.?
3. The question always asked this time of Year: What is your favorite Christmas movie?
4. Which TV shows do you think have jumped the shark at this point?
5. What is your opinion of this year's list of Rock N Roll Hall of Fame Inductees, those being Green Day, Bill Withers, Joan Jett and the Blackhearts, Stevie Ray Vaughn, Lou Reed, the Paul Butterfield Blues Band.
Here is this week's Opinion Survey. Give your opinions or answers:
1. Can you remember the Browns playing a worse game than Sunday. If so, what game?
Monday Night vs. San Diego in 1981, Browns lost 44-14 on opening night, after a fantastic 1980 season.
2. Which NFL coaches deserve to be fired at the end of the year.....or will be even if they don't deserve it.?
Philbin most likely. Maybe Tom Coughlin, but he doesn't deserve it.
3. The question always asked this time of Year: What is your favorite Christmas movie?
National Lampoos's Christmas Vacation, hysterical.
4. Which TV shows do you think have jumped the shark at this point?
5. What is your opinion of this year's list of Rock N Roll Hall of Fame Inductees, those being Green Day, Bill Withers, Joan Jett and the Blackhearts, Stevie Ray Vaughn, Lou Reed, the Paul Butterfield Blues Band.
Ican't believe Deep Purple didn't get the nod over all these acts. Stevie Ray is a good choice though.
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5. What is your opinion of this year's list of Rock N Roll Hall of Fame Inductees, those being Green Day, Bill Withers, Joan Jett and the Blackhearts, Stevie Ray Vaughn, Lou Reed, the Paul Butterfield Blues Band. No opinion, dont care.
Seriously? No opinion on music. I don't think I have ever heard of a musical eunuch before.
Johnny Manziel will be great. Give him time.
No opinion, don't care
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Here is this week's Opinion Survey. Give your opinions or answers:
1. Can you remember the Browns playing a worse game than Sunday. If so, what game?
2. Which NFL coaches deserve to be fired at the end of the year.....or will be even if they don't deserve it.?
3. The question always asked this time of Year: What is your favorite Christmas movie?
4. Which TV shows do you think have jumped the shark at this point?
5. What is your opinion of this year's list of Rock N Roll Hall of Fame Inductees, those being Green Day, Bill Withers, Joan Jett and the Blackhearts, Stevie Ray Vaughn, Lou Reed, the Paul Butterfield Blues Band.
@everlastingxxx said:
Here is this week's Opinion Survey. Give your opinions or answers:
1. Can you remember the Browns playing a worse game than Sunday. If so, what game? It was one of the worst defensive efforts i have ever seen from an NFL team. This coming from a guy that saw the Cowboys defense give up 40 first downs and didnt make the Bears punt one single time in a game last season.
Did you mean to say Offensive effort?
Because, granted the defense didn't play well, gave up a ton of yards on the ground, including that last garbage time drive.
But the OFFENSE managed three fucking first downs (plus two by penalty) and had 54 yards passing.
Surely you have seen worse defense in your life. Still haven't seen a team win a game by scoring zero points.
Zombo
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Here is this week's Opinion Survey. Give your opinions or answers:
1. Can you remember the Browns playing a worse game than Sunday. If so, what game?
2. Which NFL coaches deserve to be fired at the end of the year.....or will be even if they don't deserve it.?
3. The question always asked this time of Year: What is your favorite Christmas movie?
4. Which TV shows do you think have jumped the shark at this point?
5. What is your opinion of this year's list of Rock N Roll Hall of Fame Inductees, those being Green Day, Bill Withers, Joan Jett and the Blackhearts, Stevie Ray Vaughn, Lou Reed, the Paul Butterfield Blues Band.
Here is this week's Opinion Survey. Give your opinions or answers:
1. Can you remember the Browns playing a worse game than Sunday. If so, what game?
The first game in 1999 was worse
2. Which NFL coaches deserve to be fired at the end of the year.....or will be even if they don't deserve it.?
Gruden, Ryan, whoever is coaching JAX and Oak
3. The question always asked this time of Year: What is your favorite Christmas movie?
A Christmas story
4. Which TV shows do you think have jumped the shark at this point?
And Law and Order, and any CSI
5. What is your opinion of this year's list of Rock N Roll Hall of Fame Inductees, those being Green Day, Bill Withers, Joan Jett and the Blackhearts, Stevie Ray Vaughn, Lou Reed, the Paul Butterfield Blues Band.
Green Day, Lou Reed,and SRV all should be in, the rest no
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Here is this week's Opinion Survey. Give your opinions or answers:
1. Can you remember the Browns playing a worse game than Sunday. If so, what game?
2. Which NFL coaches deserve to be fired at the end of the year.....or will be even if they don't deserve it.?
3. The question always asked this time of Year: What is your favorite Christmas movie?
4. Which TV shows do you think have jumped the shark at this point?
5. What is your opinion of this year's list of Rock N Roll Hall of Fame Inductees, those being Green Day, Bill Withers, Joan Jett and the Blackhearts, Stevie Ray Vaughn, Lou Reed, the Paul Butterfield Blues Band.
Who caresHere is this week's Opinion Survey. Give your opinions or answers:
1. Can you remember the Browns playing a worse game than Sunday. If so, what game?
Against the Seahawks in the Kingdome, We lost 44-0 but their running back got hurt. His name was Kurt Warner .
2. Which NFL coaches deserve to be fired at the end of the year.....or will be even if they don't deserve it.?
Rex Ryan, Mike Smith, Rob Ryan, Lovie Smith and his assistant coaches,
3. The question always asked this time of Year: What is your favorite Christmas movie?
Christmas In Conecticutt", starring Barbara Stanwyck on TCM CHANNEL.
4. Which TV shows do you think have jumped the shark at this point?
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5. What is your opinion of this year's list of Rock N Roll Hall of Fame Inductees, those being Green Day, Bill Withers, Joan Jett and the Blackhearts, Stevie Ray Vaughn, Lou Reed, the Paul Butterfield Blues Band.
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@everlastingxxx said:
The defense was putrid. You are understating how bad the defense really was. With the season on the line, they were embarrassing to watch. They gave up 244 yards rushing. Dalton only needed to pass for 117 yards. Pathetic performance and they have been getting a free pass. Total number of plays: Bengals 71, Browns 38. The defense failed the team.
You're being a little bitch because Johnny played so poorly.
That doesn't play around here homey.
Man up ... 54 yards, 3 1st downs and zero points is 54 yards, 3 1st downs and zero points.
You can call out the defense, but you gotta call out the midget too. He was unbelievably awful.
Zombo
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Just a few points:
I believe there are two games that hold the Browns record for worst margin of loss:
11/12/1967 lost to the Packers 55-7
11/9/1969 lost to the Vikings 51-3...the game Zombo remembers.
48 point margin
Funny thing though...the Browns were good teams both those years. They made the playoffs then when it was harder to do so than now.
On the other hand, from what I can gather, these are the Browns largest wins:
11/7/1954 Browns 62 Redskins 3 59 point margin
Opening game 1989 Browns 51 Steelers 0 51 pt margin
Most points scored by the Browns: 66-14 vs. Brooklyn 1945 (AAFC) 52 pt. margin
While in NFL: 62 see game above, also beat Giants 62-14 in 1953.
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@everlastingxxx said:
The defense was putrid. You are understating how bad the defense really was. With the season on the line, they were embarrassing to watch. They gave up 244 yards rushing. Dalton only needed to pass for 117 yards. Pathetic performance and they have been getting a free pass. Total number of plays: Bengals 71, Browns 38. The defense failed the team.
You're being a little bitch because Johnny played so poorly.
That doesn't play around here homey.
Man up ... 54 yards, 3 1st downs and zero points is 54 yards, 3 1st downs and zero points.
You can call out the defense, but you gotta call out the midget too. He was unbelievably awful.
Zombo
Zombo said:
You're being a little bitch because Johnny played so poorly.
That doesn't play around here homey.
Man up ... 54 yards, 3 1st downs and zero points is 54 yards, 3 1st downs and zero points.
You can call out the defense, but you gotta call out the midget too. He was unbelievably awful.
Zombo
Bottom line, both offense and defense were both pretty awful. Epically so.
So lets go put a 66 spot on Carolina?
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Largest margins of victory since start of SB era: 1966:
1976 Rams 59 Falcons 0
2009 Pats 59 Titans 0
2012 Seahawks 58 Cardinals 0
Of course largest margin of victory in any game ever occurred in the 1940 NFL Championship game: Bears 73 Redskins 0
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@everlastingxxx said:
Please dont call me names. We can talk like grown ups. I have said a number of times that he did not play well. Just about every post here is talking about how poorly Johnny played. The defense has hardly been talked about.
The defense could have scored points like they did last week. They could have provided better field position. The Browns offense only had 9 possessions in the game vs the 14 they had last week. Just providing some perspective.
BTW, lets not hi-jack Gippers thread.
See what happens when you don't have an opinion on music. But it is OK. One of the questions was: have you seen a worse performance by the Browns. Keep it in context of that.
I assume Zombo's opinion is "No, particularly by the offense" and your opinion was "the defense was equally bad."
(it could have been 73-0.....the Bengals would have had to put another 43 up to match)
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@everlastingxxx said:
Please dont call me names. We can talk like grown ups. I have said a number of times that he did not play well. Just about every post here is talking about how poorly Johnny played. The defense has hardly been talked about.
The defense could have scored points like they did last week. They could have provided better field position. The Browns offense only had 9 possessions in the game vs the 14 they had last week. Just providing some perspective.
BTW, lets not hi-jack Gippers thread.
Here's some perspective: You want more plays? Make first downs. They give you more plays.
Keeps your defense rested too.
Defense has played well most of the year. Bungles had a good game plan, I dont know why more teams dont run on us every down, because you certainly can't pass on us. Dalton cant.
So they had a bad outing. Manziel has had one start and it was like the worst start in the history of quarterbacks. So excuse me if I am a little more forgiving of the defense that got us to 7-6.
Z
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@everlastingxxx said:
I know Johnny was terrible but so was the entire offense and yes, the defense equally bad. Thank you!
This was actually a nice fun thread(one of the few on the board).....and it was fresh because we didn't have any Johnny on it.....
Then your Texas manlove couldnt be denied and polluted yet another thread.....
Shoulda just put your defensive rant(which weve now heard over and over) on the excuse thread and your "Johnny will great" up your ass....
Do you have to declare this shit on EVERY thread?
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Here is this week's Opinion Survey. Give your opinions or answers:
1. Can you remember the Browns playing a worse game than Sunday. If so, what game?
2. Which NFL coaches deserve to be fired at the end of the year.....or will be even if they don't deserve it.?
3. The question always asked this time of Year: What is your favorite Christmas movie?
4. Which TV shows do you think have jumped the shark at this point?
5. What is your opinion of this year's list of Rock N Roll Hall of Fame Inductees, those being Green Day, Bill Withers, Joan Jett and the Blackhearts, Stevie Ray Vaughn, Lou Reed, the Paul Butterfield Blues Band.
Here is this week's Opinion Survey. Give your opinions or answers:
1. Can you remember the Browns playing a worse game than Sunday. If so, what game?
Worst I've ever seen in person, but that may be because I was expecting more our of the defense.
2. Which NFL coaches deserve to be fired at the end of the year.....or will be even if they don't deserve it.?
Marc Tressman, and Rex Ryan jump out although both are somewhat a victim of other's mistakes
3. The question always asked this time of Year: What is your favorite Christmas movie?
A tie between A Christmas Story and Christmas Vacation
4. Which TV shows do you think have jumped the shark at this point?
No idea...really haven't watched any network series this year
5. What is your opinion of this year's list of Rock N Roll Hall of Fame Inductees, those being Green Day, Bill Withers, Joan Jett and the Blackhearts, Stevie Ray Vaughn, Lou Reed, the Paul Butterfield Blues Band.
Yes on Lou Reed and Stevie Ray...........a big no on the rest, and I agree on Deep Purple, and so many others that don't even get mentioned.
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