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Opinion Survey 12/16/14

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  • Here is this week's Opinion Survey. Give your opinions or answers:

    1. Can you remember the Browns playing a worse game than Sunday. If so, what game?

    2. Which NFL coaches deserve to be fired at the end of the year.....or will be even if they don't deserve it.?

    3. The question always asked this time of Year: What is your favorite Christmas movie?

    4. Which TV shows do you think have jumped the shark at this point?

    5. What is your opinion of this year's list of Rock N Roll Hall of Fame Inductees, those being Green Day, Bill Withers, Joan Jett and the Blackhearts, Stevie Ray Vaughn, Lou Reed, the Paul Butterfield Blues Band.

    @the-gipper said:

    Here is this week's Opinion Survey. Give your opinions or answers:

    1. Can you remember the Browns playing a worse game than Sunday. If so, what game?

    About half the games from the 1990 season!

  • Here is this week's Opinion Survey. Give your opinions or answers:

    1. Can you remember the Browns playing a worse game than Sunday. If so, what game?

    2. Which NFL coaches deserve to be fired at the end of the year.....or will be even if they don't deserve it.?

    3. The question always asked this time of Year: What is your favorite Christmas movie?

    4. Which TV shows do you think have jumped the shark at this point?

    5. What is your opinion of this year's list of Rock N Roll Hall of Fame Inductees, those being Green Day, Bill Withers, Joan Jett and the Blackhearts, Stevie Ray Vaughn, Lou Reed, the Paul Butterfield Blues Band.

    @the-gipper said:

    Here is this week's Opinion Survey. Give your opinions or answers:

    1. Can you remember the Browns playing a worse game than Sunday. If so, what game?

    Monday Night vs. San Diego in 1981, Browns lost 44-14 on opening night, after a fantastic 1980 season.

    2. Which NFL coaches deserve to be fired at the end of the year.....or will be even if they don't deserve it.?

    Philbin most likely. Maybe Tom Coughlin, but he doesn't deserve it.

    3. The question always asked this time of Year: What is your favorite Christmas movie?

    National Lampoos's Christmas Vacation, hysterical.

    4. Which TV shows do you think have jumped the shark at this point?

    5. What is your opinion of this year's list of Rock N Roll Hall of Fame Inductees, those being Green Day, Bill Withers, Joan Jett and the Blackhearts, Stevie Ray Vaughn, Lou Reed, the Paul Butterfield Blues Band.

    Ican't believe Deep Purple didn't get the nod over all these acts. Stevie Ray is a good choice though.

  • 5. What is your opinion of this year's list of Rock N Roll Hall of Fame Inductees, those being Green Day, Bill Withers, Joan Jett and the Blackhearts, Stevie Ray Vaughn, Lou Reed, the Paul Butterfield Blues Band. No opinion, dont care.

    Seriously? No opinion on music. I don't think I have ever heard of a musical eunuch before.

    Johnny Manziel will be great. Give him time.

    No opinion, don't care

  • Here is this week's Opinion Survey. Give your opinions or answers:

    1. Can you remember the Browns playing a worse game than Sunday. If so, what game?

    2. Which NFL coaches deserve to be fired at the end of the year.....or will be even if they don't deserve it.?

    3. The question always asked this time of Year: What is your favorite Christmas movie?

    4. Which TV shows do you think have jumped the shark at this point?

    5. What is your opinion of this year's list of Rock N Roll Hall of Fame Inductees, those being Green Day, Bill Withers, Joan Jett and the Blackhearts, Stevie Ray Vaughn, Lou Reed, the Paul Butterfield Blues Band.

    @everlastingxxx said:

    @the-gipper said:

    Here is this week's Opinion Survey. Give your opinions or answers:

    1. Can you remember the Browns playing a worse game than Sunday. If so, what game? It was one of the worst defensive efforts i have ever seen from an NFL team. This coming from a guy that saw the Cowboys defense give up 40 first downs and didnt make the Bears punt one single time in a game last season.

    Did you mean to say Offensive effort?

    Because, granted the defense didn't play well, gave up a ton of yards on the ground, including that last garbage time drive.

    But the OFFENSE managed three fucking first downs (plus two by penalty) and had 54 yards passing.

    Surely you have seen worse defense in your life. Still haven't seen a team win a game by scoring zero points.

    Zombo

  • Here is this week's Opinion Survey. Give your opinions or answers:

    1. Can you remember the Browns playing a worse game than Sunday. If so, what game?

    2. Which NFL coaches deserve to be fired at the end of the year.....or will be even if they don't deserve it.?

    3. The question always asked this time of Year: What is your favorite Christmas movie?

    4. Which TV shows do you think have jumped the shark at this point?

    5. What is your opinion of this year's list of Rock N Roll Hall of Fame Inductees, those being Green Day, Bill Withers, Joan Jett and the Blackhearts, Stevie Ray Vaughn, Lou Reed, the Paul Butterfield Blues Band.

    @the-gipper said:

    Here is this week's Opinion Survey. Give your opinions or answers:

    1. Can you remember the Browns playing a worse game than Sunday. If so, what game?

    The first game in 1999 was worse

    2. Which NFL coaches deserve to be fired at the end of the year.....or will be even if they don't deserve it.?

    Gruden, Ryan, whoever is coaching JAX and Oak

    3. The question always asked this time of Year: What is your favorite Christmas movie?

    A Christmas story

    4. Which TV shows do you think have jumped the shark at this point?

    And Law and Order, and any CSI

    5. What is your opinion of this year's list of Rock N Roll Hall of Fame Inductees, those being Green Day, Bill Withers, Joan Jett and the Blackhearts, Stevie Ray Vaughn, Lou Reed, the Paul Butterfield Blues Band.

    Green Day, Lou Reed,and SRV all should be in, the rest no

  • Here is this week's Opinion Survey. Give your opinions or answers:

    1. Can you remember the Browns playing a worse game than Sunday. If so, what game?

    2. Which NFL coaches deserve to be fired at the end of the year.....or will be even if they don't deserve it.?

    3. The question always asked this time of Year: What is your favorite Christmas movie?

    4. Which TV shows do you think have jumped the shark at this point?

    5. What is your opinion of this year's list of Rock N Roll Hall of Fame Inductees, those being Green Day, Bill Withers, Joan Jett and the Blackhearts, Stevie Ray Vaughn, Lou Reed, the Paul Butterfield Blues Band.

    @the-gipper said:

    Here is this week's Opinion Survey. Give your opinions or answers:

    1. Can you remember the Browns playing a worse game than Sunday. If so, what game?

    Against the Seahawks in the Kingdome, We lost 44-0 but their running back got hurt. His name was Kurt Warner .

    2. Which NFL coaches deserve to be fired at the end of the year.....or will be even if they don't deserve it.?

    Rex Ryan, Mike Smith, Rob Ryan, Lovie Smith and his assistant coaches,

    3. The question always asked this time of Year: What is your favorite Christmas movie?

    Christmas In Conecticutt", starring Barbara Stanwyck on TCM CHANNEL.

    4. Which TV shows do you think have jumped the shark at this point?

    ?

    5. What is your opinion of this year's list of Rock N Roll Hall of Fame Inductees, those being Green Day, Bill Withers, Joan Jett and the Blackhearts, Stevie Ray Vaughn, Lou Reed, the Paul Butterfield Blues Band.

    Who cares
  • @everlastingxxx said:

    The defense was putrid. You are understating how bad the defense really was. With the season on the line, they were embarrassing to watch. They gave up 244 yards rushing. Dalton only needed to pass for 117 yards. Pathetic performance and they have been getting a free pass. Total number of plays: Bengals 71, Browns 38. The defense failed the team.

    You're being a little bitch because Johnny played so poorly.

    That doesn't play around here homey.

    Man up ... 54 yards, 3 1st downs and zero points is 54 yards, 3 1st downs and zero points.

    You can call out the defense, but you gotta call out the midget too. He was unbelievably awful.

    Zombo

  • Just a few points:

    I believe there are two games that hold the Browns record for worst margin of loss:

    11/12/1967 lost to the Packers 55-7

    11/9/1969 lost to the Vikings 51-3...the game Zombo remembers.

    48 point margin

    Funny thing though...the Browns were good teams both those years. They made the playoffs then when it was harder to do so than now.

    On the other hand, from what I can gather, these are the Browns largest wins:

    11/7/1954 Browns 62 Redskins 3 59 point margin

    Opening game 1989 Browns 51 Steelers 0 51 pt margin

    Most points scored by the Browns: 66-14 vs. Brooklyn 1945 (AAFC) 52 pt. margin

    While in NFL: 62 see game above, also beat Giants 62-14 in 1953.

  • @everlastingxxx said:

    The defense was putrid. You are understating how bad the defense really was. With the season on the line, they were embarrassing to watch. They gave up 244 yards rushing. Dalton only needed to pass for 117 yards. Pathetic performance and they have been getting a free pass. Total number of plays: Bengals 71, Browns 38. The defense failed the team.

    You're being a little bitch because Johnny played so poorly.

    That doesn't play around here homey.

    Man up ... 54 yards, 3 1st downs and zero points is 54 yards, 3 1st downs and zero points.

    You can call out the defense, but you gotta call out the midget too. He was unbelievably awful.

    Zombo

    Zombo said:

    You're being a little bitch because Johnny played so poorly.

    That doesn't play around here homey.

    Man up ... 54 yards, 3 1st downs and zero points is 54 yards, 3 1st downs and zero points.

    You can call out the defense, but you gotta call out the midget too. He was unbelievably awful.

    Zombo

    Bottom line, both offense and defense were both pretty awful. Epically so.

    So lets go put a 66 spot on Carolina?

  • Largest margins of victory since start of SB era: 1966:

    1976 Rams 59 Falcons 0

    2009 Pats 59 Titans 0

    2012 Seahawks 58 Cardinals 0

    Of course largest margin of victory in any game ever occurred in the 1940 NFL Championship game: Bears 73 Redskins 0

  • @everlastingxxx said:

    Please dont call me names. We can talk like grown ups. I have said a number of times that he did not play well. Just about every post here is talking about how poorly Johnny played. The defense has hardly been talked about.

    The defense could have scored points like they did last week. They could have provided better field position. The Browns offense only had 9 possessions in the game vs the 14 they had last week. Just providing some perspective.

    BTW, lets not hi-jack Gippers thread.

    See what happens when you don't have an opinion on music. But it is OK. One of the questions was: have you seen a worse performance by the Browns. Keep it in context of that.

    I assume Zombo's opinion is "No, particularly by the offense" and your opinion was "the defense was equally bad."

    (it could have been 73-0.....the Bengals would have had to put another 43 up to match)

  • @everlastingxxx said:

    Please dont call me names. We can talk like grown ups. I have said a number of times that he did not play well. Just about every post here is talking about how poorly Johnny played. The defense has hardly been talked about.

    The defense could have scored points like they did last week. They could have provided better field position. The Browns offense only had 9 possessions in the game vs the 14 they had last week. Just providing some perspective.

    BTW, lets not hi-jack Gippers thread.

    Here's some perspective: You want more plays? Make first downs. They give you more plays.

    Keeps your defense rested too.

    Defense has played well most of the year. Bungles had a good game plan, I dont know why more teams dont run on us every down, because you certainly can't pass on us. Dalton cant.

    So they had a bad outing. Manziel has had one start and it was like the worst start in the history of quarterbacks. So excuse me if I am a little more forgiving of the defense that got us to 7-6.

    Z

  • @everlastingxxx said:

    I know Johnny was terrible but so was the entire offense and yes, the defense equally bad. Thank you!

    This was actually a nice fun thread(one of the few on the board).....and it was fresh because we didn't have any Johnny on it.....

    Then your Texas manlove couldnt be denied and polluted yet another thread.....

    Shoulda just put your defensive rant(which weve now heard over and over) on the excuse thread and your "Johnny will great" up your ass....

    Do you have to declare this shit on EVERY thread?

  • Here is this week's Opinion Survey. Give your opinions or answers:

    1. Can you remember the Browns playing a worse game than Sunday. If so, what game?

    2. Which NFL coaches deserve to be fired at the end of the year.....or will be even if they don't deserve it.?

    3. The question always asked this time of Year: What is your favorite Christmas movie?

    4. Which TV shows do you think have jumped the shark at this point?

    5. What is your opinion of this year's list of Rock N Roll Hall of Fame Inductees, those being Green Day, Bill Withers, Joan Jett and the Blackhearts, Stevie Ray Vaughn, Lou Reed, the Paul Butterfield Blues Band.

    @the-gipper said:

    Here is this week's Opinion Survey. Give your opinions or answers:

    1. Can you remember the Browns playing a worse game than Sunday. If so, what game?

    Worst I've ever seen in person, but that may be because I was expecting more our of the defense.

    2. Which NFL coaches deserve to be fired at the end of the year.....or will be even if they don't deserve it.?

    Marc Tressman, and Rex Ryan jump out although both are somewhat a victim of other's mistakes

    3. The question always asked this time of Year: What is your favorite Christmas movie?

    A tie between A Christmas Story and Christmas Vacation

    4. Which TV shows do you think have jumped the shark at this point?

    No idea...really haven't watched any network series this year

    5. What is your opinion of this year's list of Rock N Roll Hall of Fame Inductees, those being Green Day, Bill Withers, Joan Jett and the Blackhearts, Stevie Ray Vaughn, Lou Reed, the Paul Butterfield Blues Band.

    Yes on Lou Reed and Stevie Ray...........a big no on the rest, and I agree on Deep Purple, and so many others that don't even get mentioned.

  • Here is this week's Opinion Survey. Give your opinions or answers:

    1. Can you remember the Browns playing a worse game than Sunday. If so, what game?

    2. Which NFL coaches deserve to be fired at the end of the year.....or will be even if they don't deserve it.?

    3. The question always asked this time of Year: What is your favorite Christmas movie?

    4. Which TV shows do you think have jumped the shark at this point?

    5. What is your opinion of this year's list of Rock N Roll Hall of Fame Inductees, those being Green Day, Bill Withers, Joan Jett and the Blackhearts, Stevie Ray Vaughn, Lou Reed, the Paul Butterfield Blues Band.

    @the-gipper said:

    Here is this week's Opinion Survey. Give your opinions or answers:

    1. Can you remember the Browns playing a worse game than Sunday. If so, what game?

    My memory blocks them from coming out at this point. I could do research and probably remind myself of them but I don't want to.

    2. Which NFL coaches deserve to be fired at the end of the year.....or will be even if they don't deserve it.?

    Obvious choice to me is Rex Ryan.

    3. The question always asked this time of Year: What is your favorite Christmas movie?

    A Christmas Story or Christmas Vacation. Seems the older I get the latter one wins out just a bit more.

    4. Which TV shows do you think have jumped the shark at this point?

    I don't know. All the shows I watch I like and don't see it. Some of the competition shows I tune into...Face Off and Inkmaster...seem like how far can they go? Who knows, American Idol (which I don't watch) is still on after like 14 seasons.

    5. What is your opinion of this year's list of Rock N Roll Hall of Fame Inductees, those being Green Day, Bill Withers, Joan Jett and the Blackhearts, Stevie Ray Vaughn, Lou Reed, the Paul Butterfield Blues Band.

    No opinion, except that Green Day seems too young to be in already. But I don't follow RNR HOF much either to know what the criteria is.

  • @the-gipper said:

    Here is this week's Opinion Survey. Give your opinions or answers:

    1. Can you remember the Browns playing a worse game than Sunday. If so, what game?

    This game may have been worse, given the talent on the field that day: http://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/199012090oti.htm

    Oilers 58 Browns 14

    That same year they lost to the Steelers by 35-0.....again, both of these come the year after they appeared in the AFC title game.

    2. Which NFL coaches deserve to be fired at the end of the year.....or will be even if they don't deserve it.?

    The coach for the Raiders...Sparano, will be fired....though I think he may be considered only an interim coach. The Raiders want to trade for Jim Harbaugh.

    Rex Ryan will be out.

    Trestman has at best a 50/50 chance of staying.

    Jay Gruden may want out.

    3. The question always asked this time of Year: What is your favorite Christmas movie?

    A Christmas Story..........and, of course, Die Hard.

    4. Which TV shows do you think have jumped the shark at this point?

    I binge watched the last season of The Walking Dead. It really seemed directionless.....like a walking zombie.

    And Homeland seemed to be a 3 season show.

    5. What is your opinion of this year's list of Rock N Roll Hall of Fame Inductees, those being Green Day, Bill Withers, Joan Jett and the Blackhearts, Stevie Ray Vaughn, Lou Reed, the Paul Butterfield Blues Band.

    Probably about as weak of a field as any in history. I guess we have the old rub of popularity vs. cultishness. Of these 6 acts, they all combined had an equal number of Billboard Top 100 songs: a total of 6. And only 4 in the Billboard Top Ten.

    And all of those were by Bill Withers.....who I actually think is perhaps the weakest of this whole group. He was not a groundbreaking soul/r&b act by any means in my opinion. But he had a few hits. Joan Jett gets in because she has a double X chromosome and purported to rock....not because she had much in the way of hits. She was never that popular or groundbreaking. She went where Suzi Quatro went before her....she just had a bit more visibility.

    Has blues been short shifted in the past? Two pretty strictly blues artists in one class? I don't know, you tell me. Lou Reed had his underground popularity thing, sure. Green Day is probably the biggest name. I was never into them...but I know that they have a sizeable following.

    But.....considering who, in my opinion, they have not put in there who they could have, this was a fairly lame class.

    @the-gipper said:

    @the-gipper said:

    3. The question always asked this time of Year: What is your favorite Christmas movie?

    A Christmas Story..........and, of course, Die Hard.

    I like Die Hard a lot. One of my favorite action flicks. I never saw it much as a "Christmas movie" though. Just an action movie that happens to take place during Christmas time.

    @jrb12711 said:

    1. Can you remember the Browns playing a worse game than Sunday. If so, what game?

    Honestly for me this was the worst game tied with with the game we lost against Cincy is 2007 when the playoffs were hanging in the balance. Both games we laid eggs when it mattered most.

    3. The question always asked this time of Year: What is your favorite Christmas movie?

    How the Grinch Stole Christmas, we still watch it every year on VHS.

    1. I thought about that game too, but this one was worse to me. Maybe because it's more recent, but I think it has to do with the hopes of JM as our future QB. Even that year DA was doing well...I never had confidence in him long term.

    2. You still own...and operate...a VCR? Ok then. Not a dig, just don't know anyone myself who still uses them.

  • 5. What is your opinion of this year's list of Rock N Roll Hall of Fame Inductees, those being Green Day, Bill Withers, Joan Jett and the Blackhearts, Stevie Ray Vaughn, Lou Reed, the Paul Butterfield Blues Band. No opinion, dont care.

    Seriously? No opinion on music. I don't think I have ever heard of a musical eunuch before.

    Johnny Manziel will be great. Give him time.

    No opinion, don't care

    @the-gipper said:

    5. What is your opinion of this year's list of Rock N Roll Hall of Fame Inductees, those being Green Day, Bill Withers, Joan Jett and the Blackhearts, Stevie Ray Vaughn, Lou Reed, the Paul Butterfield Blues Band. No opinion, dont care.

    Seriously? No opinion on music. I don't think I have ever heard of a musical eunuch before.

    Johnny Manziel will be great. Give him time.

    No opinion, don't care

    I think he's referring to the HOF awards part of it. Which I'm pretty much the same. I used to watch the Oscars, but then I realized why do I care about this stuff? I'm not a musician or an actor, nor do I have friends or family in those businesses.

    And why Everxxx, why did you bring him up here in this thread?

  • @the-gipper said:

    @the-gipper said:

    3. The question always asked this time of Year: What is your favorite Christmas movie?

    A Christmas Story..........and, of course, Die Hard.

    I like Die Hard a lot. One of my favorite action flicks. I never saw it much as a "Christmas movie" though. Just an action movie that happens to take place during Christmas time.

    @jrb12711 said:

    1. Can you remember the Browns playing a worse game than Sunday. If so, what game?

    Honestly for me this was the worst game tied with with the game we lost against Cincy is 2007 when the playoffs were hanging in the balance. Both games we laid eggs when it mattered most.

    3. The question always asked this time of Year: What is your favorite Christmas movie?

    How the Grinch Stole Christmas, we still watch it every year on VHS.

    1. I thought about that game too, but this one was worse to me. Maybe because it's more recent, but I think it has to do with the hopes of JM as our future QB. Even that year DA was doing well...I never had confidence in him long term.

    2. You still own...and operate...a VCR? Ok then. Not a dig, just don't know anyone myself who still uses them.

    @tml1138 said:

    I like Die Hard a lot. One of my favorite action flicks. I never saw it much as a "Christmas movie" though. Just an action movie that happens to take place during Christmas time.

    Yea, well that is a big debate we have had here in previous years.....and which has gone on a lot elsewhere. Let's just say that the "Die Hard is a Christmas movie" contingent is about as vocal as the JFF fanboys are.....so I go along with the concept.

    1. I thought about that game too, but this one was worse to me. Maybe because it's more recent, but I think it has to do with the hopes of JM as our future QB. Even that year DA was doing well...I never had confidence in him long term.

    2. You still own...and operate...a VCR? Ok then. Not a dig, just don't know anyone myself who still uses them.

    I still have a VHS/DVD unit. I mean, how many thousands of dollars would it take to replace a VHS collection that was built up over like 10-15 years?

    I only rarely use my VHS...but when I want to see something I have only on VHS at least I know that I can watch it.

    E.g.......we have a family tradition of watching the Jeremy Brett Sherlock Holmes "Blue Carbuncle" mystery that we only have on VHS. (it is set at Christmas time). We will have to use the VHS for that.

  • @the-gipper said:

    5. What is your opinion of this year's list of Rock N Roll Hall of Fame Inductees, those being Green Day, Bill Withers, Joan Jett and the Blackhearts, Stevie Ray Vaughn, Lou Reed, the Paul Butterfield Blues Band. No opinion, dont care.

    Seriously? No opinion on music. I don't think I have ever heard of a musical eunuch before.

    Johnny Manziel will be great. Give him time.

    No opinion, don't care

    I think he's referring to the HOF awards part of it. Which I'm pretty much the same. I used to watch the Oscars, but then I realized why do I care about this stuff? I'm not a musician or an actor, nor do I have friends or family in those businesses.

    And why Everxxx, why did you bring him up here in this thread?

    @tml1138 said:

    I think he's referring to the HOF awards part of it. Which I'm pretty much the same. I used to watch the Oscars, but then I realized why do I care about this stuff? I'm not a musician or an actor, nor do I have friends or family in those businesses.

    Well, I have friends in both those businesses.....so there it is.