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  • Perfectly stated Zombo....

    and add that no matter how good something might taste, it's NEVER good when it's getting shoved down your throat....repeatedly....

    and when you finally give in only to find out that it tastes like shit, then you gotta gag at least a little......it's normal

    @mudfly said:

    Perfectly stated Zombo....

    and add that no matter how good something might taste, it's NEVER good when it's getting shoved down your throat....repeatedly....

    and when you finally give in only to find out that it tastes like shit, then you gotta gag at least a little......it's normal

    Yes. Zombo has this correct. Give Manziel two more games. If he shows something and we win, fine. If not, time to find a Quarterback.

  • You know who would also be a pretty smart qb...relative to his arm and athletic ability? Stephen hawking. And I don't want him leading our team either.

    @tacosman said:

    You know who would also be a pretty smart qb...relative to his arm and athletic ability? Stephen hawking. And I don't want him leading our team either.

    That was funny, LOL

  • Bernie Kosar....lmfao...he's a has been wannabe-a never was.

    @tacosman said:

    Bernie Kosar....lmfao...he's a has been wannabe-a never was.

    Alright fucktard. If you're trying to ruffle feathers, kudos to you.

    Doesn't he still own the record for consecutive passes without an INT?

    I stopped reading after this comment.

    Go shove a combine up your ass salad tosser. You seriously need to relieve the pressure.

  • Numerous quarterbacks, including Troy Aikman, were shut out their first game. Who throws in the towel after one game? If that were the case they should fire West and Crowell every time they fumble.

  • Numerous quarterbacks, including Troy Aikman, were shut out their first game. Who throws in the towel after one game? If that were the case they should fire West and Crowell every time they fumble.

    @opal312 said:

    Numerous quarterbacks, including Troy Aikman, were shut out their first game. Who throws in the towel after one game? If that were the case they should fire West and Crowell every time they fumble.

    we'll see how he compares to those other QBs when every nfl show on tv compares their 'first 3 starts'.

    how much he's at the bottom of the list?

    manziel looked like the 'make a wish' kid on family guy.

  • Numerous quarterbacks, including Troy Aikman, were shut out their first game. Who throws in the towel after one game? If that were the case they should fire West and Crowell every time they fumble.

    @opal312 said:

    Numerous quarterbacks, including Troy Aikman, were shut out their first game. Who throws in the towel after one game? If that were the case they should fire West and Crowell every time they fumble.

    Jesus...again with the fucking Troy Aikman comparison. Aikman wasn't a midget who came from a stupid college system. I remember Aikmans first start...and you know what he did in that game, despite struggling the entire game, he also made some throws and plays that made you think, this dude is going to be good someday.

    Point to one play that Manziel made on Sunday that made you go wow...he's going to be a player in this league.

  • @opal312 said:

    Numerous quarterbacks, including Troy Aikman, were shut out their first game. Who throws in the towel after one game? If that were the case they should fire West and Crowell every time they fumble.

    Jesus...again with the fucking Troy Aikman comparison. Aikman wasn't a midget who came from a stupid college system. I remember Aikmans first start...and you know what he did in that game, despite struggling the entire game, he also made some throws and plays that made you think, this dude is going to be good someday.

    Point to one play that Manziel made on Sunday that made you go wow...he's going to be a player in this league.

    @mark-o said:

    Jesus...again with the fucking Troy Aikman comparison. Aikman wasn't a midget who came from a stupid college system. I remember Aikmans first start...and you know what he did in that game, despite struggling the entire game, he also made some throws and plays that made you think, this dude is going to be good someday.Point to one play that Manziel made on Sunday that made you go wow...he's going to be a player in this league.

    Lol. Troy Aikman.

    6'4, rocket arm, right out of franchise QB central casting.

    We have an elf that falls down if you grab a string on his jersey.

    Z

  • JF will almost certainly get a lot better his first full offseason as the starter. Going through preseason workouts, minicamp sessions, etc is going to help him a lot going into 2015

  • JF will almost certainly get a lot better his first full offseason as the starter. Going through preseason workouts, minicamp sessions, etc is going to help him a lot going into 2015

    @tacosman said:

    JF will almost certainly get a lot better his first full offseason as the starter. Going through preseason workouts, minicamp sessions, etc is going to help him a lot going into 2015

    What the fuck was he doing during preseason workouts, minicamp sessions, etc when it was an open competition for the starting QB job?

    Try again Chachi...

  • @tacosman said:

    JF will almost certainly get a lot better his first full offseason as the starter. Going through preseason workouts, minicamp sessions, etc is going to help him a lot going into 2015

    What the fuck was he doing during preseason workouts, minicamp sessions, etc when it was an open competition for the starting QB job?

    Try again Chachi...

    @mark-o said:

    What the fuck was he doing during preseason workouts, minicamp sessions, etc when it was an open competition for the starting QB job?Try again Chachi...

    Going throug all this stuff as a young player after you've had a taste of in game experience to build on is going to be a much more productive experience.

  • @mark-o said:

    What the fuck was he doing during preseason workouts, minicamp sessions, etc when it was an open competition for the starting QB job?Try again Chachi...

    Going throug all this stuff as a young player after you've had a taste of in game experience to build on is going to be a much more productive experience.

    @tacosman said:

    Going throug all this stuff as a young player after you've had a taste of in game experience to build on is going to be a much more productive experience.

    Didn't our Heisman Trophy winning QB have any in game experience in college? Maybe he was too busy fucking off during training camp instead of working at his job?

    Funny how other young QB's step right in and look the part of NFL QB. Our midget QB gets 14 regular season weeks to prepare for his opportunity and graces us with 80 fucking yards passing.

  • I haven't been over in the Minnesota, Jville, oakland forums, but do they trash their rookie starters after a very bad performance? Or do they understand it's a slow process and it's going to take lots of time? Patience people....

  • I haven't been over in the Minnesota, Jville, oakland forums, but do they trash their rookie starters after a very bad performance? Or do they understand it's a slow process and it's going to take lots of time? Patience people....

    @tacosman said:

    I haven't been over in the Minnesota, Jville, oakland forums, but do they trash their rookie starters after a very bad performance? Or do they understand it's a slow process and it's going to take lots of time? Patience people....

    I'm out of patience. I expect our first round draft choice QB to at least be able to hit 3 digits in passing yards in a game and I know this is asking a lot...but maybe even score some fucking points.

    He looked like a lost little kid on the field which says to me two things. One he doesn't belong in the NFL or two...he has spent the better part of 5 months since he was drafted fucking around and not preparing for his job. Either way, I have ZERO patience for that. And you Johnny fanboy faggots who have been here all season telling us how much better the team would be if he was the starter certainly haven't helped his case with the fan base any.

  • @tacosman said:

    I haven't been over in the Minnesota, Jville, oakland forums, but do they trash their rookie starters after a very bad performance? Or do they understand it's a slow process and it's going to take lots of time? Patience people....

    I'm out of patience. I expect our first round draft choice QB to at least be able to hit 3 digits in passing yards in a game and I know this is asking a lot...but maybe even score some fucking points.

    He looked like a lost little kid on the field which says to me two things. One he doesn't belong in the NFL or two...he has spent the better part of 5 months since he was drafted fucking around and not preparing for his job. Either way, I have ZERO patience for that. And you Johnny fanboy faggots who have been here all season telling us how much better the team would be if he was the starter certainly haven't helped his case with the fan base any.

    @mark-o said:

    I'm out of patience. I expect our first round draft choice QB to at least be able to hit 3 digits in passing yards in a game and I know this is asking a lot...but maybe even score some fucking points.

    He looked like a lost little kid on the field which says to me two things. One he doesn't belong in the NFL or two...he has spent the better part of 5 months since he was drafted fucking around and not preparing for his job. Either way, I have ZERO patience for that. And you Johnny fanboy faggots who have been here all season telling us how much better the team would be if he was the starter certainly haven't helped his case with the fan base any.

    +1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000

  • But...will there be tacos?

  • Of course in subsequent starts JF will score points and throw for over 100 yards. It's one game. If he lit it up Sunday you guys would be overreacting in the other direction. Just chill out and watch him progress over time.

  • He will score points and throw for over 100 yards?

    Well that is hard to come by. Good use of a first rounder.

    Z

  • He will score points and throw for over 100 yards?

    Well that is hard to come by. Good use of a first rounder.

    Z

    Zombo said:

    He will score points and throw for over 100 yards?

    Well that is hard to come by. Good use of a first rounder.

    Z

    Doesn't matter what he does, he has 3 years starting no matter what, is that right?

  • Of course in subsequent starts JF will score points and throw for over 100 yards. It's one game. If he lit it up Sunday you guys would be overreacting in the other direction. Just chill out and watch him progress over time.

    @tacosman said:

    If he lit it up Sunday you guys would be overreacting in the other direction. Just chill out and watch him progress over time.

    How about you just realize he's Johnny Fucking Football. The most hyped and talked about superstar freaking college player EVER!!!

    This is the first time he's played. It was the biggest game in the nation. EVERYBODY IS GONNA TALK ABOUT IT - A LOT!!!

    Media, fans, haters, lovers, coaches, players will ALL FUCKING ANALYZE IT TO DEATH....figure it out you dolt

    We've been discussing "potential" for 8 months now. Time to evaluate REAL game play. This is the first one. He sucked. End of story. Next week should be better. Well see. Then we will discuss again. See how that goes?

    If you dont want to discuss him, get the fuck out. But stop with the smug bullshit and realize we gonna discuss and we can only discuss what we saw and all we saw was crap...get it?....

  • Sure I enjoy discussing it too. And he did play poorly. But again, it's one game. Ridiculous after one start to draw any conclusions about his career. You can start to formulate that kind of stuff this time next year