time to start the draft talk you Blunts.
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in the first 2 rounds. I don't care after that.
The more labels you have for yourself, the dumber they make you. "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." Paul Brown -
Couldn't have said it better.
So why was I the first to throw the man a point?
Sunday's game showed how little depth we have in both lines.
Not to mention QB...
Really, Ag... It took you until Sunday to see we lacked O-line depth? I thought you were better than that.
So why was I the first to throw the man a point?
Not to mention QB...
Really, Ag... It took you until Sunday to see we lacked O-line depth? I thought you were better than that.
Ha, Ha-addressed to the guy who has been pushing Cedric Ogbuehi for RT from the moment I arrived. Good one Tour.
:lol:PS-and if the RG isn't producing you can shift him there since he started his freshman year there before shifting to RT. Extremely versatile.
And if Mack is not recovered, got to find a way to get Auburn's center. That would be priority #1.
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Not many good ones, I'd rather keep Brian than take Sanchez, Ponder, Locker, etc, etc.
Ditto on Hoyer, but still hard to see happening.
Here's the full list of QB FAs...
http://www.spotrac.com/free-agents/nfl/quarterback/
Actually the name you mentioned that I could see fitting is Locker. Question with him is health, but I see some good with him in our offense... at least the Hoyer version.
From the link's full list only one or two that interest me although in at least one case I am not sure why:
- Locker; and
- Jordan Palmer, the choice I'm a bit at a loss to explain except that I've seen glimpses of his brother from time to time.
Ditto on Hoyer, but still hard to see happening.
Here's the full list of QB FAs...
http://www.spotrac.com/free-agents/nfl/quarterback/
Actually the name you mentioned that I could see fitting is Locker. Question with him is health, but I see some good with him in our offense... at least the Hoyer version.
From the link's full list only one or two that interest me although in at least one case I am not sure why:
- Locker; and
- Jordan Palmer, the choice I'm a bit at a loss to explain except that I've seen glimpses of his brother from time to time.
We NEED someone to compete with Manziel for the starter, and be a competent backup in case something happens... I'm not ready to go into 2015 with Manziel and Shaw as our QB depth...
I'd love to re-sign Hoyer and give him another open competition with Manziel in camp. I don't see why that can't happen...BUT if Hoyer leaves...
Locker has the most talent of the FAs left, but he has continuously been injured and would probably not be a reliable guy
I'd be interested in Christian Ponder. He has a unique still set and has had some success in the NFL. Look at his 2012 stat-line, it is MUCH better than Hoyer's was this year. He has not looked so good recently, but he seems to have the ability to succeed in the right system, and maybe our system would fit.
I also have some interest in Austin Davis. He's played well as a 3rd string QB this year, but he doesn't have the same pedigree or shear talent that Ponder has.
Also...
We have enough draft picks, why wouldn't we draft another QB?
I don't mean an early pick, but what about if Hundley fell to the 3rd, or Petty or Prescott...
How about Grayson, Carden, Fajardo, or Mannion with a mid-round pick... hell we have 2 4th round picks...
I think we'd be idiots not to bring in both a FA vet backup/fringe starter AND spend a pick on a guy who has talent as well...
#Justsayin' -
If we get a QB in the middle rounds, I just hope it is a kid who played under center.
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Ditto on Hoyer, but still hard to see happening.
Here's the full list of QB FAs...
http://www.spotrac.com/free-agents/nfl/quarterback/
Actually the name you mentioned that I could see fitting is Locker. Question with him is health, but I see some good with him in our offense... at least the Hoyer version.
From the link's full list only one or two that interest me although in at least one case I am not sure why:
- Locker; and
- Jordan Palmer, the choice I'm a bit at a loss to explain except that I've seen glimpses of his brother from time to time.
We NEED someone to compete with Manziel for the starter, and be a competent backup in case something happens... I'm not ready to go into 2015 with Manziel and Shaw as our QB depth...
I'd love to re-sign Hoyer and give him another open competition with Manziel in camp. I don't see why that can't happen...BUT if Hoyer leaves...
Locker has the most talent of the FAs left, but he has continuously been injured and would probably not be a reliable guy
I'd be interested in Christian Ponder. He has a unique still set and has had some success in the NFL. Look at his 2012 stat-line, it is MUCH better than Hoyer's was this year. He has not looked so good recently, but he seems to have the ability to succeed in the right system, and maybe our system would fit.
I also have some interest in Austin Davis. He's played well as a 3rd string QB this year, but he doesn't have the same pedigree or shear talent that Ponder has.
Also...
We have enough draft picks, why wouldn't we draft another QB?
I don't mean an early pick, but what about if Hundley fell to the 3rd, or Petty or Prescott...
How about Grayson, Carden, Fajardo, or Mannion with a mid-round pick... hell we have 2 4th round picks...
I think we'd be idiots not to bring in both a FA vet backup/fringe starter AND spend a pick on a guy who has talent as well...
Actually I was thinking similar skill set to JM... except with more "skill". Put a stop to emphasizing two different sections of the playbook.
I see that potential in Locker.
We NEED someone to compete with Manziel for the starter, and be a competent backup in case something happens... I'm not ready to go into 2015 with Manziel and Shaw as our QB depth...
We have enough draft picks, why wouldn't we draft another QB? I don't mean an early pick, but what about if Hundley fell to the 3rd, or Petty or Prescott... How about Grayson, Carden, Fajardo, or Mannion with a mid-round pick... hell we have 2 4th round picks...
Agree... and maybe on Ponder, but he seemed to hit a wall with the Vikes.
Not up enough on the QB crop yet to comment on the likely mid-round options, so... maybe spend a pick in a trade?
This may be way over the top, but a 5th for RG3?
Seems to have worn out his WSH welcome. (duh!)
Meets the similar skill set criteria.
Subway vs. Snickers...
Sign up for "Hard Knocks"...
See what happens...
Then again, I might just be "giving up".
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
I think we need to start evaluating our strength and conditioning coaches. It seems to me that both our O and D lines are fine the first 5 or 6 games every year and then start getting manhandled and start dropping like flies with injuries, which certainly doesn't help our QB or RB's. I think we need bigger targets at the WR spot. We're undersized at that position. I think our RB's are fine. There's no reason to draft another QB unless get rid of one. I think we have depth we just need to find out why we can't seem to keep them healthy.
GO BROWNS !
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Actually I was thinking similar skill set to JM... except with more "skill". Put a stop to emphasizing two different sections of the playbook.
I see that potential in Locker.
We NEED someone to compete with Manziel for the starter, and be a competent backup in case something happens... I'm not ready to go into 2015 with Manziel and Shaw as our QB depth...
We have enough draft picks, why wouldn't we draft another QB? I don't mean an early pick, but what about if Hundley fell to the 3rd, or Petty or Prescott... How about Grayson, Carden, Fajardo, or Mannion with a mid-round pick... hell we have 2 4th round picks...
Agree... and maybe on Ponder, but he seemed to hit a wall with the Vikes.
Not up enough on the QB crop yet to comment on the likely mid-round options, so... maybe spend a pick in a trade?
This may be way over the top, but a 5th for RG3?
Seems to have worn out his WSH welcome. (duh!)
Meets the similar skill set criteria.
Subway vs. Snickers...
Sign up for "Hard Knocks"...
See what happens...
Then again, I might just be "giving up".
Actually I was thinking similar skill set to JM... except with more "skill". Put a stop to emphasizing two different sections of the playbook.
I see that potential in Locker.
Agree... and maybe on Ponder, but he seemed to hit a wall with the Vikes.
Not up enough on the QB crop yet to comment on the likely mid-round options, so... maybe spend a pick in a trade?
This may be way over the top, but a 5th for RG3?
Seems to have worn out his WSH welcome. (duh!)
Meets the similar skill set criteria.
Subway vs. Snickers...
Sign up for "Hard Knocks"...
See what happens...
Then again, I might just be "giving up".
Sean Mannion.
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Actually I was thinking similar skill set to JM... except with more "skill". Put a stop to emphasizing two different sections of the playbook.
I see that potential in Locker.
We NEED someone to compete with Manziel for the starter, and be a competent backup in case something happens... I'm not ready to go into 2015 with Manziel and Shaw as our QB depth...
We have enough draft picks, why wouldn't we draft another QB? I don't mean an early pick, but what about if Hundley fell to the 3rd, or Petty or Prescott... How about Grayson, Carden, Fajardo, or Mannion with a mid-round pick... hell we have 2 4th round picks...
Agree... and maybe on Ponder, but he seemed to hit a wall with the Vikes.
Not up enough on the QB crop yet to comment on the likely mid-round options, so... maybe spend a pick in a trade?
This may be way over the top, but a 5th for RG3?
Seems to have worn out his WSH welcome. (duh!)
Meets the similar skill set criteria.
Subway vs. Snickers...
Sign up for "Hard Knocks"...
See what happens...
Then again, I might just be "giving up".
Actually I was thinking similar skill set to JM... except with more "skill". Put a stop to emphasizing two different sections of the playbook.
I see that potential in Locker.
Agree... and maybe on Ponder, but he seemed to hit a wall with the Vikes.
Not up enough on the QB crop yet to comment on the likely mid-round options, so... maybe spend a pick in a trade?
This may be way over the top, but a 5th for RG3?
Seems to have worn out his WSH welcome. (duh!)
Meets the similar skill set criteria.
Subway vs. Snickers...
Sign up for "Hard Knocks"...
See what happens...
Then again, I might just be "giving up".
Imagine the media blitz with RG3 and JFF? No thanks.
"You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970. -
Actually I was thinking similar skill set to JM... except with more "skill". Put a stop to emphasizing two different sections of the playbook.
I see that potential in Locker.
Agree... and maybe on Ponder, but he seemed to hit a wall with the Vikes.
Not up enough on the QB crop yet to comment on the likely mid-round options, so... maybe spend a pick in a trade?
This may be way over the top, but a 5th for RG3?
Seems to have worn out his WSH welcome. (duh!)
Meets the similar skill set criteria.
Subway vs. Snickers...
Sign up for "Hard Knocks"...
See what happens...
Then again, I might just be "giving up".
Imagine the media blitz with RG3 and JFF? No thanks.
Imagine the media blitz with RG3 and JFF? No thanks.
Ah. But imagine putting them in a cage and letting them fight to the death
All of a sudden it's a HELL YES moment!
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Actually I was thinking similar skill set to JM... except with more "skill". Put a stop to emphasizing two different sections of the playbook.
I see that potential in Locker.
Agree... and maybe on Ponder, but he seemed to hit a wall with the Vikes.
Not up enough on the QB crop yet to comment on the likely mid-round options, so... maybe spend a pick in a trade?
This may be way over the top, but a 5th for RG3?
Seems to have worn out his WSH welcome. (duh!)
Meets the similar skill set criteria.
Subway vs. Snickers...
Sign up for "Hard Knocks"...
See what happens...
Then again, I might just be "giving up".
Imagine the media blitz with RG3 and JFF? No thanks.
What's one more ring when you are already under the big top.Imagine the media blitz with RG3 and JFF? No thanks.
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Ditto on Hoyer, but still hard to see happening.
Here's the full list of QB FAs...
http://www.spotrac.com/free-agents/nfl/quarterback/
Actually the name you mentioned that I could see fitting is Locker. Question with him is health, but I see some good with him in our offense... at least the Hoyer version.
From the link's full list only one or two that interest me although in at least one case I am not sure why:
- Locker; and
- Jordan Palmer, the choice I'm a bit at a loss to explain except that I've seen glimpses of his brother from time to time.
We NEED someone to compete with Manziel for the starter, and be a competent backup in case something happens... I'm not ready to go into 2015 with Manziel and Shaw as our QB depth...
I'd love to re-sign Hoyer and give him another open competition with Manziel in camp. I don't see why that can't happen...BUT if Hoyer leaves...
Locker has the most talent of the FAs left, but he has continuously been injured and would probably not be a reliable guy
I'd be interested in Christian Ponder. He has a unique still set and has had some success in the NFL. Look at his 2012 stat-line, it is MUCH better than Hoyer's was this year. He has not looked so good recently, but he seems to have the ability to succeed in the right system, and maybe our system would fit.
I also have some interest in Austin Davis. He's played well as a 3rd string QB this year, but he doesn't have the same pedigree or shear talent that Ponder has.
Also...
We have enough draft picks, why wouldn't we draft another QB?
I don't mean an early pick, but what about if Hundley fell to the 3rd, or Petty or Prescott...
How about Grayson, Carden, Fajardo, or Mannion with a mid-round pick... hell we have 2 4th round picks...
I think we'd be idiots not to bring in both a FA vet backup/fringe starter AND spend a pick on a guy who has talent as well...
I don't mean an early pick, but what about if Hundley fell to the 3rd, or Petty or Prescott...
How about Grayson, Carden, Fajardo, or Mannion with a mid-round pick... hell we have 2 4th round picks...
I think we'd be idiots not to bring in both a FA vet backup/fringe starter AND spend a pick on a guy who has talent as well...
I'm not a big fan of the idea of using yet another draft pick on a QB, but Hundley in the 3rd would be too good to pass up.
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I don't mean an early pick, but what about if Hundley fell to the 3rd, or Petty or Prescott...
How about Grayson, Carden, Fajardo, or Mannion with a mid-round pick... hell we have 2 4th round picks...
I think we'd be idiots not to bring in both a FA vet backup/fringe starter AND spend a pick on a guy who has talent as well...
I'm not a big fan of the idea of using yet another draft pick on a QB, but Hundley in the 3rd would be too good to pass up.
I'm not a big fan of the idea of using yet another draft pick on a QB, but Hundley in the 3rd would be too good to pass up.
If you don't have a franchise QB, you're looking for one...
We don't have one, so what position could possibly be more important to invest a draft pick in than QB?
Just my line of thinking...
#Justsayin' -
1 game is way to early to dismiss a rookie QB. I bet the Browns stick with Manziel next season (I hope, it would be nice to have consistency for once) and sign some veteran as a mentor. With Manziel and Shaw (assuming Hoyer leaves), I would rather get a veteran QB than roll the dice on another rookie. Browns can probably sign Sexy Rexy for cheap and let him teach Johnny Shanahan's playbook.
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in the first 2 rounds. I don't care after that.
OL
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ILB
in the first 2 rounds. I don't care after that.
Yes, this. This is what the Browns need right now, depth on both lines before anything else. I wouldn't mind a stud WR too once the lines are set.
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I'm not a big fan of the idea of using yet another draft pick on a QB, but Hundley in the 3rd would be too good to pass up.
If you don't have a franchise QB, you're looking for one...
We don't have one, so what position could possibly be more important to invest a draft pick in than QB?
Just my line of thinking...
If you don't have a franchise QB, you're looking for one...
We don't have one, so what position could possibly be more important to invest a draft pick in than QB?
Just my line of thinking...
You don't go out attempting to convince yourself a player is a franchise worthy QB. That's how you end up with the Ponders, Lockers, Cassell's and Young's of the NFL.
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I'm not a big fan of the idea of using yet another draft pick on a QB, but Hundley in the 3rd would be too good to pass up.
If you don't have a franchise QB, you're looking for one...
We don't have one, so what position could possibly be more important to invest a draft pick in than QB?
Just my line of thinking...
If you don't have a franchise QB, you're looking for one...
We don't have one, so what position could possibly be more important to invest a draft pick in than QB?
Yup... I've said since day one here, you're always looking for your next QB. The only thing that impacts how hard you look/ the price you'll pay... is the performance of the QB you have.
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damn Avril's off the mkt. Was kind of hoping we might take a look at him as a possible FA signing next year.
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I haven't even started thinking draft. Not until we're mathematically eliminated anyways. What is our draft stats as of right now? What is Buffalo's pick? We are around what draft slot this year? What is the best possible pick we could get at this time? After that we could start to figure out what will be available.
As of right now, I'd like a Star Linebacker. Dansby wont last forever. It's time for a MLB that will dominate in orange and brown for a long time.
Then maybe OL, WR/TE, FB and a fucking K>
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I've started seeing Landon Collins (S) as a first pick for the Browns. Like i've been saying for months. Unless we can get one of the stud OL, Landon would be a great safety-in-waiting behind Whitner.
I don't like WalterFootball's second pick (in the 1st) for us though, Sammie Coates. Awesome physical specimen, but he never been productive in college. More athlete than football player. Gametape > combine results.
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