John Football Excuses Forum....
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Today Andrew Luck is just like JF. I never claimed it the other way around.
Nothing to be proud of that's for sure, but we know Luck will be fine and his team already clinched.
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Ergo... today Dallas Cowboys = Carolina PanthersToday Andrew Luck is just like JF. I never claimed it the other way around.
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The money sign is absolutely meaningless.
Get over it.
WSS
Tell that to any and every player that ever takes the field against him. Kinda doubt they share your view of it. Nor should they.
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Disagree... I think it's symptomatic of a lot of things, but can set that aside.
What cannot be set aside is the its impact on opponents. Bengals D talked about how the spector of that "meaningless" gesture pumped them up. That they did not want to see it and their play was driven by their desire to not see it.
It's permanent bulletin board material... even if there's nothing new to fuel the fire, there's "the money sign" to fall back upon.
Oh horse shit. You take it seriously because you don't like the kid. What pumped the Bengals up is the fact that we fuck them in the ass in their own house.
It also cost the Cincinnati morons at least one penalty.
WSS
Oh horse shit. You take it seriously because you don't like the kid. What pumped the Bengals up is the fact that we fuck them in the ass in their own house.
It also cost the Cincinnati morons at least one penalty.
WSS
I think they'll trade one penalty for a very motivated 30-0 smack down of Johnny and the boys every day of the week. And yes, I take it very seriously. If you're gonna be flashing money signs, it might be a good idea to actually have a little bit of talent and stones to back it up.
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a running game with andrew luck?
i'll take it all day long.
guess the browns don't look like such a fool franchise with that trade...lol.
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Oh horse shit. You take it seriously because you don't like the kid. What pumped the Bengals up is the fact that we fuck them in the ass in their own house.
It also cost the Cincinnati morons at least one penalty.
WSS
I think they'll trade one penalty for a very motivated 30-0 smack down of Johnny and the boys every day of the week. And yes, I take it very seriously. If you're gonna be flashing money signs, it might be a good idea to actually have a little bit of talent and stones to back it up.
If you're gonna be flashing money signs, it might be a good idea to actually have a little bit of talent and stones to back it up.
had the annual xmas blast on saturday and saw my bill's neighbor.
usually he screams out manziel to me and i scream back watkins. without even saying a word he flashes the money sign to me at which point i pull out an empty front pocket at him.
understand yet?
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My grandson's school bus driver and (Bengal fan) gives me the money sign every morning at the bus stop.
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Oh horse shit. You take it seriously because you don't like the kid. What pumped the Bengals up is the fact that we fuck them in the ass in their own house.
It also cost the Cincinnati morons at least one penalty.
WSS
I think they'll trade one penalty for a very motivated 30-0 smack down of Johnny and the boys every day of the week. And yes, I take it very seriously. If you're gonna be flashing money signs, it might be a good idea to actually have a little bit of talent and stones to back it up.
I think they'll trade one penalty for a very motivated 30-0 smack down of Johnny and the boys every day of the week. And yes, I take it very seriously. If you're gonna be flashing money signs, it might be a good idea to actually have a little bit of talent and stones to back it up.
Look if any of you guys seriously believe the money sign was a bigger motivation than the humiliation they took on their home field I say you're crazy. But the hatred runs so deep there's no point in arguing with you.
WSS
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Walter Football, as usual, nails it.
Manziel is garbage and just doesn't look like he belongs in the NFL. He could be out of the league in two years.
Seems like everyone who's on this forum defending JFF is taking "it" personally.. as though any suggestion that Manziel=trash is somehow an attack on them. News flash: Emotions may trump facts on Fox News.. but not here. Get over it.
My new first round: Best of DL/LB and QB. Second round is best of DL/LB/OL.
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Fuck it. Let's draft Mariota and keep this roulette wheel going.
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I wanted Manziel to succeed because if he did then the Browns do. I wanted to see Pettine put in Manziel in the fourth quarter of the Colts game as I thought he could do no worse than Hoyer and might give the team a spark. That game was so winnable with just a little bit of offense. I was wrong. Pettine was keeping the better qb in the game with Hoyer. I have to believe Haslam pretty much made the decision to take Manziel. I read where the Browns had done some $100,000 study on quarterbacks in the NFL in the last 20 years and what qb to take in the draft and that person was Teddy Bridge water whom they passed on for Manziel. Why would you even do a study like that and not follow the recommendation?
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Fuck it. Let's draft Mariota and keep this roulette wheel going.
Fuck it. Let's draft Mariota and keep this roulette wheel going.
LOL! Why not.
"I'm always looking for the next ex-Mrs. Malcolm"-Jeff Goldbloom as Dr. Ian Malcolm in Jurassic Park.
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I wanted Manziel to succeed because if he did then the Browns do. I wanted to see Pettine put in Manziel in the fourth quarter of the Colts game as I thought he could do no worse than Hoyer and might give the team a spark. That game was so winnable with just a little bit of offense. I was wrong. Pettine was keeping the better qb in the game with Hoyer. I have to believe Haslam pretty much made the decision to take Manziel. I read where the Browns had done some $100,000 study on quarterbacks in the NFL in the last 20 years and what qb to take in the draft and that person was Teddy Bridge water whom they passed on for Manziel. Why would you even do a study like that and not follow the recommendation?
I wanted Manziel to succeed because if he did then the Browns do. I wanted to see Pettine put in Manziel in the fourth quarter of the Colts game as I thought he could do no worse than Hoyer and might give the team a spark. That game was so winnable with just a little bit of offense. I was wrong. Pettine was keeping the better qb in the game with Hoyer. I have to believe Haslam pretty much made the decision to take Manziel. I read where the Browns had done some $100,000 study on quarterbacks in the NFL in the last 20 years and what qb to take in the draft and that person was Teddy Twatwater whom they passed on for Manziel. Why would you even do a study like that and not follow the recommendation?
Because cocksucker Haslam wanted to sell tickets.
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I wanted Manziel to succeed because if he did then the Browns do. I wanted to see Pettine put in Manziel in the fourth quarter of the Colts game as I thought he could do no worse than Hoyer and might give the team a spark. That game was so winnable with just a little bit of offense. I was wrong. Pettine was keeping the better qb in the game with Hoyer. I have to believe Haslam pretty much made the decision to take Manziel. I read where the Browns had done some $100,000 study on quarterbacks in the NFL in the last 20 years and what qb to take in the draft and that person was Teddy Bridge water whom they passed on for Manziel. Why would you even do a study like that and not follow the recommendation?
I wanted Manziel to succeed because if he did then the Browns do. I wanted to see Pettine put in Manziel in the fourth quarter of the Colts game as I thought he could do no worse than Hoyer and might give the team a spark. That game was so winnable with just a little bit of offense. I was wrong. Pettine was keeping the better qb in the game with Hoyer. I have to believe Haslam pretty much made the decision to take Manziel. I read where the Browns had done some $100,000 study on quarterbacks in the NFL in the last 20 years and what qb to take in the draft and that person was Teddy Bridge water whom they passed on for Manziel. Why would you even do a study like that and not follow the recommendation?
They did it to see if Manziel would be on top of that list, and if he is….it would be an easy sell to take him in the top 5. It just so happened that Bridgewater was the guy that turned up. Doh!
Based on reported news on how Cleveland handled Bridgewater during the interviews and combine, it was pretty obvious they never wanted him here. If they would had embraced him from day one, Bridgewater would had been here and starting for us. The irony of being a Browns fan….
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I would like to see the Browns be a little wiser. It makes no sense to have a $100,000 study only to ignore the findings of that study. SMH. I have seen this before with owners that see a signing of a high celebrity player like Manziel as bringing fans to the stadium but that is only thinking in the short term and not the long term.
An analogy would be a person paying a respected attorney $100,000 for legal advice then ignoring it because that is not what the person wanted to hear. Might as well have saved the 100 grand and just do what you wanted to do all along but of course then you may have to pay a price for not listening to your high priced attorney. -
Bridgewater didn't want to be here. It would've affected his play and the Browns players around him.
Who knows the real reason why Manziel was chosen, all we have is speculation and bullshit to go on, but he's here and that's that.
Now, what to do after this last game in BLT? If they sign Hoyer, let's strengthen up the team everywhere else needed and roll into next year. Why the hell not, it's worked elsewhere for great teams with OK QBs.
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Bridgewater didn't want to be here. It would've affected his play and the Browns players around him.
Who knows the real reason why Manziel was chosen, all we have is speculation and bullshit to go on, but he's here and that's that.
Now, what to do after this last game in BLT? If they sign Hoyer, let's strengthen up the team everywhere else needed and roll into next year. Why the hell not, it's worked elsewhere for great teams with OK QBs.
Bridgewater didn't want to be here. It would've affected his play and the Browns players around him.
Who knows the real reason why Manziel was chosen, all we have is speculation and bullshit to go on, but he's here and that's that.
Now, what to do after this last game in BLT? If they sign Hoyer, let's strengthen up the team everywhere else needed and roll into next year. Why the hell not, it's worked elsewhere for great teams with OK QBs.
No matter who plays quarterback we need to spend whatever pics we have to make the team stronger which will make the quarterback better. By the way look at the quarterback power ranking I posted. Yes as of his six bad quarters of play Johnny is number 31
http://m.bleacherreport.com/articles/2300180-nfl-quarterback-power-rankings-post-week-15 1
Who wanted Blake Bortles? Come on all you hindsight fans!
WSS
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My grandson's school bus driver and (Bengal fan) gives me the money sign every morning at the bus stop.
My grandson's school bus driver and (Bengal fan) gives me the money sign every morning at the bus stop.
I assume there's a school bus full of kids that also learned a new finger gesture...
If they would had embraced him from day one, Bridgewater would had been here and starting for us.
Ah... the "study". Had forgotten about that. Completed before TB's pro day?
Not sold on TB yet, but he's shown promise on a not very good team.
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Bridgewater didn't want to be here. It would've affected his play and the Browns players around him.
Who knows the real reason why Manziel was chosen, all we have is speculation and bullshit to go on, but he's here and that's that.
Now, what to do after this last game in BLT? If they sign Hoyer, let's strengthen up the team everywhere else needed and roll into next year. Why the hell not, it's worked elsewhere for great teams with OK QBs.
No matter who plays quarterback we need to spend whatever pics we have to make the team stronger which will make the quarterback better. By the way look at the quarterback power ranking I posted. Yes as of his six bad quarters of play Johnny is number 31
http://m.bleacherreport.com/articles/2300180-nfl-quarterback-power-rankings-post-week-15 1
Who wanted Blake Bortles? Come on all you hindsight fans!
WSS
Who wanted Blake Bortles? Come on all you hindsight fans!
WSS
I did, for one. Lol.
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Bridgewater didn't want to be here. It would've affected his play and the Browns players around him.
Who knows the real reason why Manziel was chosen, all we have is speculation and bullshit to go on, but he's here and that's that.
Now, what to do after this last game in BLT? If they sign Hoyer, let's strengthen up the team everywhere else needed and roll into next year. Why the hell not, it's worked elsewhere for great teams with OK QBs.
No matter who plays quarterback we need to spend whatever pics we have to make the team stronger which will make the quarterback better. By the way look at the quarterback power ranking I posted. Yes as of his six bad quarters of play Johnny is number 31
http://m.bleacherreport.com/articles/2300180-nfl-quarterback-power-rankings-post-week-15 1
Who wanted Blake Bortles? Come on all you hindsight fans!
WSS
No matter who plays quarterback we need to spend whatever pics we have to make the team stronger which will make the quarterback better. By the way look at the quarterback power ranking I posted. Yes as of his six bad quarters of play Johnny is number 31
http://m.bleacherreport.com/articles/2300180-nfl-quarterback-power-rankings-post-week-15 1
Who wanted Blake Bortles? Come on all you hindsight fans!
*Raises hand*
Bortles pressed into service for an inferior team to us. JM groomed for 14 weeks.
"These rankings factor in several major attributes for the quarterback position. Personal observation and opinion play a key role."
Derp...
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