John Football Excuses Forum....
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Let's revisit the start of the discussion shall we? In response to another member Saint Steve posted:
The money sign is absolutely meaningless. Get over it. WSS
To which I replied:Disagree... I think it's symptomatic of a lot of things, but can set that aside.
What cannot be set aside is the its impact on opponents. Bengals D talked about how the spector of that "meaningless" gesture pumped them up. That they did not want to see it and their play was driven by their desire to not see it.
It's permanent bulletin board material... even if there's nothing new to fuel the fire, there's "the money sign" to fall back upon.And then...
Oh horse shit. You take it seriously because you don't like the kid. What pumped the Bengals up is the fact that we fuck them in the ass in their own house.
It also cost the Cincinnati morons at least one penalty. WSSSo the only absolute position in the "discussion" belonged to The Saint.
The only attempt to label motivation for a position was by The Saint.Steve, it was two divergent opinions.
All I ever said was that I disagree with yours.
There is no winning such a discussion, but, as you showed, you can lose it.
Go Browns...
Let's revisit the start of the discussion shall we? In response to another member Saint Steve posted:
To which I replied:
And then...
So the only absolute position in the "discussion" belonged to The Saint.
The only attempt to label motivation for a position was by The Saint.
Go Browns...
Thanks for realizing that.
WSS
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Well guess who looks like JF today. Andrew Luck is down 35-0 at the end of the 3rd. He is 15/22, 109 yds. and 2 interceptions and now at least 1 fumble. Dallas now has the ball after this last fumble to start the 3rd on the Colts' 38.
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Well guess who looks like JF today. Andrew Luck is down 35-0 at the end of the 3rd. He is 15/22, 109 yds. and 2 interceptions and now at least 1 fumble. Dallas now has the ball after this last fumble to start the 3rd on the Colts' 38.
Well guess who looks like JF today. Andrew Luck is down 35-0 at the end of the 3rd. He is 15/22, 109 yds. and 2 interceptions and now at least 1 fumble. Dallas now has the ball after this last fumble to start the 3rd on the Colts' 38.
yes. Thats it! Jf is just like Andrew Luck!
Idiotic
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Well guess who looks like JF today. Andrew Luck is down 35-0 at the end of the 3rd. He is 15/22, 109 yds. and 2 interceptions and now at least 1 fumble. Dallas now has the ball after this last fumble to start the 3rd on the Colts' 38.
Well guess who looks like JF today. Andrew Luck is down 35-0 at the end of the 3rd. He is 15/22, 109 yds. and 2 interceptions and now at least 1 fumble. Dallas now has the ball after this last fumble to start the 3rd on the Colts' 38.
Luck has his issues, but he is without Hilton and every other receiver has several drops today. Good luck hosting the seahawks in the first round. You will need it...
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Well guess who looks like JF today. Andrew Luck is down 35-0 at the end of the 3rd. He is 15/22, 109 yds. and 2 interceptions and now at least 1 fumble. Dallas now has the ball after this last fumble to start the 3rd on the Colts' 38.
Well guess who looks like JF today. Andrew Luck is down 35-0 at the end of the 3rd. He is 15/22, 109 yds. and 2 interceptions and now at least 1 fumble. Dallas now has the ball after this last fumble to start the 3rd on the Colts' 38.
Sorry but that's just an idiotic post. Luck has proven that he can play in the NFL. Johnny has so far proven he cannot.
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Well guess who looks like JF today. Andrew Luck is down 35-0 at the end of the 3rd. He is 15/22, 109 yds. and 2 interceptions and now at least 1 fumble. Dallas now has the ball after this last fumble to start the 3rd on the Colts' 38.
yes. Thats it! Jf is just like Andrew Luck!
Idiotic
yes. Thats it! Jf is just like Andrew Luck!
Idiotic
Today Andrew Luck is just like JF. I never claimed it the other way around.
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Well guess who looks like JF today. Andrew Luck is down 35-0 at the end of the 3rd. He is 15/22, 109 yds. and 2 interceptions and now at least 1 fumble. Dallas now has the ball after this last fumble to start the 3rd on the Colts' 38.
Well guess who looks like JF today. Andrew Luck is down 35-0 at the end of the 3rd. He is 15/22, 109 yds. and 2 interceptions and now at least 1 fumble. Dallas now has the ball after this last fumble to start the 3rd on the Colts' 38.
You can have a bad game if you make the playoffs and the Pro Bowl every year you are a starter and set records in a playoff win.
If you get 3 points in two starts amd then go back to the bench you arent quite as credible.
Z
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Today Andrew Luck is just like JF. I never claimed it the other way around.
Nothing to be proud of that's for sure, but we know Luck will be fine and his team already clinched.
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Ergo... today Dallas Cowboys = Carolina PanthersToday Andrew Luck is just like JF. I never claimed it the other way around.
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The money sign is absolutely meaningless.
Get over it.
WSS
Tell that to any and every player that ever takes the field against him. Kinda doubt they share your view of it. Nor should they.
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Disagree... I think it's symptomatic of a lot of things, but can set that aside.
What cannot be set aside is the its impact on opponents. Bengals D talked about how the spector of that "meaningless" gesture pumped them up. That they did not want to see it and their play was driven by their desire to not see it.
It's permanent bulletin board material... even if there's nothing new to fuel the fire, there's "the money sign" to fall back upon.
Oh horse shit. You take it seriously because you don't like the kid. What pumped the Bengals up is the fact that we fuck them in the ass in their own house.
It also cost the Cincinnati morons at least one penalty.
WSS
Oh horse shit. You take it seriously because you don't like the kid. What pumped the Bengals up is the fact that we fuck them in the ass in their own house.
It also cost the Cincinnati morons at least one penalty.
WSS
I think they'll trade one penalty for a very motivated 30-0 smack down of Johnny and the boys every day of the week. And yes, I take it very seriously. If you're gonna be flashing money signs, it might be a good idea to actually have a little bit of talent and stones to back it up.
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a running game with andrew luck?
i'll take it all day long.
guess the browns don't look like such a fool franchise with that trade...lol.
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Oh horse shit. You take it seriously because you don't like the kid. What pumped the Bengals up is the fact that we fuck them in the ass in their own house.
It also cost the Cincinnati morons at least one penalty.
WSS
I think they'll trade one penalty for a very motivated 30-0 smack down of Johnny and the boys every day of the week. And yes, I take it very seriously. If you're gonna be flashing money signs, it might be a good idea to actually have a little bit of talent and stones to back it up.
If you're gonna be flashing money signs, it might be a good idea to actually have a little bit of talent and stones to back it up.
had the annual xmas blast on saturday and saw my bill's neighbor.
usually he screams out manziel to me and i scream back watkins. without even saying a word he flashes the money sign to me at which point i pull out an empty front pocket at him.
understand yet?
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My grandson's school bus driver and (Bengal fan) gives me the money sign every morning at the bus stop.
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Oh horse shit. You take it seriously because you don't like the kid. What pumped the Bengals up is the fact that we fuck them in the ass in their own house.
It also cost the Cincinnati morons at least one penalty.
WSS
I think they'll trade one penalty for a very motivated 30-0 smack down of Johnny and the boys every day of the week. And yes, I take it very seriously. If you're gonna be flashing money signs, it might be a good idea to actually have a little bit of talent and stones to back it up.
I think they'll trade one penalty for a very motivated 30-0 smack down of Johnny and the boys every day of the week. And yes, I take it very seriously. If you're gonna be flashing money signs, it might be a good idea to actually have a little bit of talent and stones to back it up.
Look if any of you guys seriously believe the money sign was a bigger motivation than the humiliation they took on their home field I say you're crazy. But the hatred runs so deep there's no point in arguing with you.
WSS
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Walter Football, as usual, nails it.
Manziel is garbage and just doesn't look like he belongs in the NFL. He could be out of the league in two years.
Seems like everyone who's on this forum defending JFF is taking "it" personally.. as though any suggestion that Manziel=trash is somehow an attack on them. News flash: Emotions may trump facts on Fox News.. but not here. Get over it.
My new first round: Best of DL/LB and QB. Second round is best of DL/LB/OL.
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Fuck it. Let's draft Mariota and keep this roulette wheel going.
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I wanted Manziel to succeed because if he did then the Browns do. I wanted to see Pettine put in Manziel in the fourth quarter of the Colts game as I thought he could do no worse than Hoyer and might give the team a spark. That game was so winnable with just a little bit of offense. I was wrong. Pettine was keeping the better qb in the game with Hoyer. I have to believe Haslam pretty much made the decision to take Manziel. I read where the Browns had done some $100,000 study on quarterbacks in the NFL in the last 20 years and what qb to take in the draft and that person was Teddy Bridge water whom they passed on for Manziel. Why would you even do a study like that and not follow the recommendation?
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Fuck it. Let's draft Mariota and keep this roulette wheel going.
Fuck it. Let's draft Mariota and keep this roulette wheel going.
LOL! Why not.
"I'm always looking for the next ex-Mrs. Malcolm"-Jeff Goldbloom as Dr. Ian Malcolm in Jurassic Park.
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I wanted Manziel to succeed because if he did then the Browns do. I wanted to see Pettine put in Manziel in the fourth quarter of the Colts game as I thought he could do no worse than Hoyer and might give the team a spark. That game was so winnable with just a little bit of offense. I was wrong. Pettine was keeping the better qb in the game with Hoyer. I have to believe Haslam pretty much made the decision to take Manziel. I read where the Browns had done some $100,000 study on quarterbacks in the NFL in the last 20 years and what qb to take in the draft and that person was Teddy Bridge water whom they passed on for Manziel. Why would you even do a study like that and not follow the recommendation?
I wanted Manziel to succeed because if he did then the Browns do. I wanted to see Pettine put in Manziel in the fourth quarter of the Colts game as I thought he could do no worse than Hoyer and might give the team a spark. That game was so winnable with just a little bit of offense. I was wrong. Pettine was keeping the better qb in the game with Hoyer. I have to believe Haslam pretty much made the decision to take Manziel. I read where the Browns had done some $100,000 study on quarterbacks in the NFL in the last 20 years and what qb to take in the draft and that person was Teddy Twatwater whom they passed on for Manziel. Why would you even do a study like that and not follow the recommendation?
Because cocksucker Haslam wanted to sell tickets.
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