Haslam/Farmer Post Season Presser
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The one thing that I don't understand around here is this 49er syndrome that surrounds players. I think Joe Thomas is declining but until there is a better option I want him on the team. Our WR core without Gordon isn't NFL quality and you won't replace him without spending a good amount of cash, he really is cheap for what you get.
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The one thing that I don't understand around here is this 49er syndrome that surrounds players. I think Joe Thomas is declining but until there is a better option I want him on the team. Our WR core without Gordon isn't NFL quality and you won't replace him without spending a good amount of cash, he really is cheap for what you get.
The one thing that I don't understand around here is this 49er syndrome that surrounds players. I think Joe Thomas is declining but until there is a better option I want him on the team. Our WR core without Gordon isn't NFL quality and you won't replace him without spending a good amount of cash, he really is cheap for what you get.
What good is he to the team when he gets popped for smoking weed and is lost for a year? It's going to happen. IT's not a matter of if it happens, it's when it happens and best that it happens when hes someone elses problem.
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The one thing that I don't understand around here is this 49er syndrome that surrounds players. I think Joe Thomas is declining but until there is a better option I want him on the team. Our WR core without Gordon isn't NFL quality and you won't replace him without spending a good amount of cash, he really is cheap for what you get.
The one thing that I don't understand around here is this 49er syndrome that surrounds players. I think Joe Thomas is declining but until there is a better option I want him on the team. Our WR core without Gordon isn't NFL quality and you won't replace him without spending a good amount of cash, he really is cheap for what you get.
but at some point, if you really want to walk the talk so to speak, you have to back it up.....they are desparatey trying to change the culture and this is how you do it.....and its the time to do it to.....takes balls, and in the end, will pay off
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AND going to a manziel bash is not the way to win over your new coach and team mates when you are supposed to be riding the straight and narrow.
love his talent but he's got to go.
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I guess we'll see but I don't think it's fair to any QB to be throwing to Benjamin, Gabriel & Hawkins.
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I guess we'll see but I don't think it's fair to any QB to be throwing to Benjamin, Gabriel & Hawkins.
I guess we'll see but I don't think it's fair to any QB to be throwing to Benjamin, Gabriel & Hawkins.
I gotta say that Benjamin aint good.....time to move on from him too
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What exactly has Puffy done to help us W I N games?
I'm waiting..............
Still waiting.............
Done waiting.............. Nothing.
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What exactly has Puffy done to help us W I N games?
I'm waiting..............
Still waiting.............
Done waiting.............. Nothing.
What exactly has Puffy done to help us W I N games?
I'm waiting..............
Still waiting.............
Done waiting.............. Nothing.
He was arguably the 2nd best WR in the NFL in 2013 regardless of how you feel about him.
I try not to let emotion drive my thoughts. I agree Gordon is a wildcard but any team who trades for him will low ball it and he is a legit #1 WR, especially on the Browns.
And based on this logic Farmer should cut the whole team cause there isn't one guy on this team that has won anything
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The only positive ( and I use that term very loosely) is that it was an extra first round pick that was wasted. We still have 2 this year.
Admitting a mistake and moving on would certainly earn Haslam and company a ton of respect from the fans.
what makes you so sure they won't mess up the next draft also?
What makes you analyze only the first round of the draft? Do you think West and Bitionio were bad picks? How about Kirksey? Do you think Crowell and Kuwann were bad UDFA's? First round busts suck for sure but there are bars full of them LOLwhat makes you so sure they won't mess up the next draft also?
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What exactly has Puffy done to help us W I N games?
I'm waiting..............
Still waiting.............
Done waiting.............. Nothing.
He was arguably the 2nd best WR in the NFL in 2013 regardless of how you feel about him.
I try not to let emotion drive my thoughts. I agree Gordon is a wildcard but any team who trades for him will low ball it and he is a legit #1 WR, especially on the Browns.
And based on this logic Farmer should cut the whole team cause there isn't one guy on this team that has won anything
He was arguably the 2nd best WR in the NFL in 2013 regardless of how you feel about him.
I try not to let emotion drive my thoughts. I agree Gordon is a wildcard but any team who trades for him will low ball it and he is a legit #1 WR, especially on the Browns.
And based on this logic Farmer should cut the whole team cause there isn't one guy on this team that has won anything
A #1 WR when he gives effort and is one piss test away from fucking up like he has done his entire life.
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What makes you analyze only the first round of the draft? Do you think West and Bitionio were bad picks? How about Kirksey? Do you think Crowell and Kuwann were bad UDFA's? First round busts suck for sure but there are bars full of them LOLwhat makes you so sure they won't mess up the next draft also?
What makes you analyze only the first round of the draft? Do you think West and Bitionio were bad picks? How about Kirksey? Do you think Crowell and Kuwann were bad UDFA's? First round busts suck for sure but there are bars full of them LOL
You have to admit the first round is very important. If you added CJ Mosley and Kelvin Benjamin Farmer would look like a genius
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What makes you analyze only the first round of the draft? Do you think West and Bitionio were bad picks? How about Kirksey? Do you think Crowell and Kuwann were bad UDFA's? First round busts suck for sure but there are bars full of them LOL
You have to admit the first round is very important. If you added CJ Mosley and Kelvin Benjamin Farmer would look like a genius
Yes it's important but you have to look a the whole body of work. If I played the hindsight game id wish for Beckam and whoever in the first. If Beckam doesn't get ROY it's a travesty.You have to admit the first round is very important. If you added CJ Mosley and Kelvin Benjamin Farmer would look like a genius
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Time to take a step back folks. None of these guys is going to get cut. I also doubt we trade any of them, but I will admit that might be a possibility. Just depends on what happens and who might want them.
Gordon would be the first to go because his upside off sets his liability to some degree. Manziel has a long ways to go but it is too soon to say we know how that book will read.
Gilbert? I really don't understand his problem. He was a top rated corner and corners can usually make the transition pretty well. Maybe the money was his goal. Winning the lottery so to speak.
Of the three, Gilbert is my biggest disappointment. Everything pre draft pointed to him being a difference maker. I don't really blame Farmer for the pick. Had we not selected him when we did, one of the next 2-3 teams would have.
Johnny would be next, but we really haven't seen enough of a sample, though I will say I'd like to see a few less shots of him in Vegas and read more about him being in Berea as much as league rules allow.
If everybody had like minds, we would never learn. -
What exactly has Puffy done to help us W I N games?
I'm waiting..............
Still waiting.............
Done waiting.............. Nothing.
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Time to take a step back folks. None of these guys is going to get cut. I also doubt we trade any of them, but I will admit that might be a possibility. Just depends on what happens and who might want them.
Gordon would be the first to go because his upside off sets his liability to some degree. Manziel has a long ways to go but it is too soon to say we know how that book will read.
Gilbert? I really don't understand his problem. He was a top rated corner and corners can usually make the transition pretty well. Maybe the money was his goal. Winning the lottery so to speak.
Of the three, Gilbert is my biggest disappointment. Everything pre draft pointed to him being a difference maker. I don't really blame Farmer for the pick. Had we not selected him when we did, one of the next 2-3 teams would have.
Johnny would be next, but we really haven't seen enough of a sample, though I will say I'd like to see a few less shots of him in Vegas and read more about him being in Berea as much as league rules allow.
I have to disagree a bit. 1) we have seen plenty of Manziel to assess his character and ability to be a leader. At this point his field performance is irrelevant, he is a cancer to the team. 2) someone's getting cut I think Gordon. It is possible he will be traded if his status as I believe his status will not be free agent or RFA next year. With 5 games played he owes us a full contract year. I think it will be upheld if its challenged.Time to take a step back folks. None of these guys is going to get cut. I also doubt we trade any of them, but I will admit that might be a possibility. Just depends on what happens and who might want them.
Gordon would be the first to go because his upside off sets his liability to some degree. Manziel has a long ways to go but it is too soon to say we know how that book will read.
Gilbert? I really don't understand his problem. He was a top rated corner and corners can usually make the transition pretty well. Maybe the money was his goal. Winning the lottery so to speak.
Of the three, Gilbert is my biggest disappointment. Everything pre draft pointed to him being a difference maker. I don't really blame Farmer for the pick. Had we not selected him when we did, one of the next 2-3 teams would have.
Johnny would be next, but we really haven't seen enough of a sample, though I will say I'd like to see a few less shots of him in Vegas and read more about him being in Berea as much as league rules allow.
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What exactly has Puffy done to help us W I N games?
I'm waiting..............
Still waiting.............
Done waiting.............. Nothing.
He was arguably the 2nd best WR in the NFL in 2013 regardless of how you feel about him.
I try not to let emotion drive my thoughts. I agree Gordon is a wildcard but any team who trades for him will low ball it and he is a legit #1 WR, especially on the Browns.
And based on this logic Farmer should cut the whole team cause there isn't one guy on this team that has won anything
He was arguably the 2nd best WR in the NFL in 2013 regardless of how you feel about him.
How many wins did the "2nd best WR in the NFL in 2013" net us??
ooooooooooo, a whopping 4 games? What a stud L M A O
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Time to take a step back folks. None of these guys is going to get cut. I also doubt we trade any of them, but I will admit that might be a possibility. Just depends on what happens and who might want them.
Gordon would be the first to go because his upside off sets his liability to some degree. Manziel has a long ways to go but it is too soon to say we know how that book will read.
Gilbert? I really don't understand his problem. He was a top rated corner and corners can usually make the transition pretty well. Maybe the money was his goal. Winning the lottery so to speak.
Of the three, Gilbert is my biggest disappointment. Everything pre draft pointed to him being a difference maker. I don't really blame Farmer for the pick. Had we not selected him when we did, one of the next 2-3 teams would have.
Johnny would be next, but we really haven't seen enough of a sample, though I will say I'd like to see a few less shots of him in Vegas and read more about him being in Berea as much as league rules allow.
Time to take a step back folks. None of these guys is going to get cut. I also doubt we trade any of them, but I will admit that might be a possibility. Just depends on what happens and who might want them.
Gordon would be the first to go because his upside off sets his liability to some degree. Manziel has a long ways to go but it is too soon to say we know how that book will read.
Gilbert? I really don't understand his problem. He was a top rated corner and corners can usually make the transition pretty well. Maybe the money was his goal. Winning the lottery so to speak.
Of the three, Gilbert is my biggest disappointment. Everything pre draft pointed to him being a difference maker. I don't really blame Farmer for the pick. Had we not selected him when we did, one of the next 2-3 teams would have.
Johnny would be next, but we really haven't seen enough of a sample, though I will say I'd like to see a few less shots of him in Vegas and read more about him being in Berea as much as league rules allow.
Think you're wrong on all counts.
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