Haslam/Farmer Post Season Presser
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Gordon, Manziel, and/or Gilbert gone ?
Don't be counting on it yet :
Tony Grossi @TonyGrossi · 2h 2 hours ago Haslam indicated disciplined players won't be released.
Furthermore :
Tony Grossi @TonyGrossi · 2h 2 hours ago Haslam on manziel, Gordon: They disrespected team, fans, staff. We're gonna give them chance to grow up.
Priority #1 :
Tony Grossi @TonyGrossi · 2h 2 hours ago Jimmy Haslam said #Browns going to work 'tomorrow' on QB situation.
Personally, I'd like to see them bring Hoyer back, keep Manziel on the bench, and have them build both sides of the Line.
Face it, Hoyer's the best QB we've got right now, the porous Center line did his mechanics in with Mack out - he can give us wins until we get our Franchise guy (which may be a ways off yet).
Sadly I don't see Hoyer being back, we'll be off chasing some other cast off FA Veteran for this.
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You do realize there are 11 guys on the field at a time
Exactly, thank you for making my point for me. Man I love debating with the challenged.
Exactly, thank you for making my point for me. Man I love debating with the challenged.
Yeah you got me Josh Gordon is responsible for the teams wins or losses, but it's a team game, genius.
If you think that Josh Gordon doesn't make this team better your thick
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Yeah you got me Josh Gordon is responsible for the teams wins or losses, but it's a team game, genius.
If you think that Josh Gordon doesn't make this team better your thick
Yup, we're awesome.
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Yeah you got me Josh Gordon is responsible for the teams wins or losses, but it's a team game, genius.
If you think that Josh Gordon doesn't make this team better your thick
The team got worse when he showed up this year.
He isn't responsible for wins and losses but he didn't make the team better either
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Yeah you got me Josh Gordon is responsible for the teams wins or losses, but it's a team game, genius.
If you think that Josh Gordon doesn't make this team better your thick
The team got worse when he showed up this year.
He isn't responsible for wins and losses but he didn't make the team better either
The team got worse when he showed up this year.
He isn't responsible for wins and losses but he didn't make the team better either
He didn't really get on the same page with Hoyer and Manziel.
Not saying he isn't a risk but with such a meager cap hit and given he is one year removed from 87 1,600 and 9 I'd risk it.
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Yeah you got me Josh Gordon is responsible for the teams wins or losses, but it's a team game, genius.
If you think that Josh Gordon doesn't make this team better your thick
Ask Hoyer how much better the team was when he came in and ran the wrong routes over and over. Or the WRs playing opposite him when he sells them out by not going full bore when he isn't the prime target. Or anyone else on the team altogether when he missed 70% of the season. He'll help this team a lot more if the draft pick we acquire for him pans out . . . If I was the GM anyway. Seriously dont understand why you would want to keep putting up with his bullshit.
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Yeah you got me Josh Gordon is responsible for the teams wins or losses, but it's a team game, genius.
If you think that Josh Gordon doesn't make this team better your thick
He only makes the team better when he's actually on the active roster and playing in games. My count says he's been suspended for 13 games. Next off season drug bust will make that 29. TBD if he's worth that risk. Personally- no. But I'm not the GM.
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Gordon, Manziel, and/or Gilbert gone ?
Don't be counting on it yet :
Tony Grossi @TonyGrossi · 2h 2 hours ago Haslam indicated disciplined players won't be released.
Furthermore :
Tony Grossi @TonyGrossi · 2h 2 hours ago Haslam on manziel, Gordon: They disrespected team, fans, staff. We're gonna give them chance to grow up.
Priority #1 :
Tony Grossi @TonyGrossi · 2h 2 hours ago Jimmy Haslam said #Browns going to work 'tomorrow' on QB situation.
Personally, I'd like to see them bring Hoyer back, keep Manziel on the bench, and have them build both sides of the Line.
Face it, Hoyer's the best QB we've got right now, the porous Center line did his mechanics in with Mack out - he can give us wins until we get our Franchise guy (which may be a ways off yet).
Sadly I don't see Hoyer being back, we'll be off chasing some other cast off FA Veteran for this.
Gordon, Manziel, and/or Gilbert gone ?
Don't be counting on it yet :
Furthermore :
Priority #1 :
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Personally, I'd like to see them bring Hoyer back, keep Manziel on the bench, and have them build both sides of the Line.
Face it, Hoyer's the best QB we've got right now, the porous Center line did his mechanics in with Mack out - he can give us wins until we get our Franchise guy (which may be a ways off yet).
Sadly I don't see Hoyer being back, we'll be off chasing some other cast off FA Veteran for this.
I would like to see Hoyer back and Manziel gone but don't think you'll see either. I can see St Louis, Houston and maybe even Washington taking a look at Hoyer
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I give Manziel and Gilbert another preseason and year as a 2nd chance.
With Gordon Im getting tired, but he is too cheap to let him go, I would still try to draft another WR in the first two rounds.
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I dont think anybodys gonna get "cut".....they'll let things smooth out....say they'll get better....talk nice and then try to get something
I dont think anybodys gonna get "cut".....they'll let things smooth out....say they'll get better....talk nice and then try to get something
Agree 100% At least two of these guys are gone, the FO have decided to let it die down and then run a propaganda campaign to attract suitors. We will talk up the maturity, try to let them shine in early camps and hope to hell someone bites on the mirage.
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Yeah you got me Josh Gordon is responsible for the teams wins or losses, but it's a team game, genius.
If you think that Josh Gordon doesn't make this team better your thick
If you think Gordon made this team better this year you are wrong genius. His presence on and off the field was disruptive. He had a LOT of time on his hands to digest the play book and get in shape and failed on both counts. Coming back from a 10 game suspension he cant make 6 games without having a major dumb ass attack. Don't be surprised if he bombs a random after the weekend fun either.
A healthy mentally rational Gordon without whatever demons he has would be a game changer, this guy in a death spiral is cut bait.
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I, for one, am not expecting "spin".
Certainly not from Pettine.
Not really from Farmer.
Unlikely from Haslam, if he even speaks.
Not to say that I expect the complete, unvarnished truth on every topic. There's simply a great deal of room between those two extremes.
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I, for one, am not expecting "spin".
Certainly not from Pettine.
Not really from Farmer.
Unlikely from Haslam, if he even speaks.
Not to say that I expect the complete, unvarnished truth on every topic. There's simply a great deal of room between those two extremes.
I, for one, am not expecting "spin".
Certainly not from Pettine.
Not really from Farmer.
Unlikely from Haslam, if he even speaks.
Not to say that I expect the complete, unvarnished truth on every topic. There's simply a great deal of room between those two extremes.
I expect that we'll hear all positive things all the way to OTAs, giving the illusion that things have somehow changed, and we'll be walking endlessly towards that mirage and before we know it, it'll be the 2016 draft and that mirage will be "within our grasp".
Funny thing about mirages though........
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@everlastingxxx said:
You can't dump first round picks after one season unless you want to tank your franchise for the next 10 years. You have to hit on them. They have to be given every chance to be successful.
The owner can make all the threats he wants but these young players would be snatched up quickly if they were let go. They are still young and you have to be patient with them and hope the light turns on.
Gordon is a different animal. I would have released him after his drug suspension. You can't trust him any longer.
Be clear, it's not they, it's he - as in Ryan Leaf v2.0
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