Trade GORDON and 1st rounder for Garoppolo
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watkins had 50 something yards today and buffalo didn't make the playoffs.
yeah he did what a lot of people thought he would do. nothing.
and yet he has more than 100 yds more than our leading receiver who's in his 4th year and was catching balls from a hot Hoyer early in the season. It's not a stretch to say two things 1) Watkins would be well over 1000 yds receiving if he was a Brown and 2) he would have made Hawkins and Austin even better.
And not just Watkins, but any of the stud #1's would have made this a vastly better offense. Hawkins and Austin are awesome route runners and short catch guys. They are not Gordon type receivers whom defense's have to give some buffer to or they wheel it downfield for 6. C'mom Mik this is simple football mechanics. Saying a rookie with just under 1000 yds did "nothing" though? C'mon dude. Give the kid some credit.
1) Watkins would be well over 1000 yds receiving if he was a Brown
Not sure how you can make this assumption. Our offense has been horrendous since the early season bye week, adding a better receiver wouldn't have fixed it.
But to Walter's trade idea. It's nothing but risk, first round pick and a first round talent for an unproven 2nd RD QB.
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Isn't Gordon a restricted FA. The only way you get anything for him would be if Al Davis would come back to life. The Moron is quickly playing himself out of the NFL!
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Gordon and our #1 for Jimmy G?
Ummmm... no.
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I will ask again; do you guys do a mock draft on this board? Does Zombo? He seems so knowledgable I was just,wondering from a Cleveland perspective instead of the national mock drafts that,bombard us every year.
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Speaking of hindsight it doesn't look like Bill Belichick is in the business of letting bonafide starting quarterbacks slip by him.
WSS
Speaking of hindsight it doesn't look like Bill Belichick is in the business of letting bonafide starting quarterbacks slip by him.
It doesn't? How many ex-Pat QBs are starting in the NFL?
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@westside-steve said:
in case you missed it I was talking about the one we had for the first part of d
the season. And which of the ones he has traded away are in the top five or ten percent of quarterbacks? I know everyone thinks Jimmy Garoppolo is the new Kirk Cousins but...
But I won't speak for you. If you think he's worth a first, then start printing the banners!
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To New England. Throw in Manziel's ass to sweeten the deal.
Would you make that trade?
To New England. Throw in Manziel's ass to sweeten the deal.
Would you make that trade?
You are not allowed to suck anymore QB dick after Manziel.
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To New England. Throw in Manziel's ass to sweeten the deal.
Would you make that trade?
You are not allowed to talk about QBs. You have the worst evaluation for the QB position.
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@westside-steve said:
in case you missed it I was talking about the one we had for the first part of d
the season. And which of the ones he has traded away are in the top five or ten percent of quarterbacks? I know everyone thinks Jimmy Garoppolo is the new Kirk Cousins but...
But I won't speak for you. If you think he's worth a first, then start printing the banners!
@westside-steve said:
in case you missed it I was talking about the one we had for the first part of d
the season. And which of the ones he has traded away are in the top five or ten percent of quarterbacks? I know everyone thinks Jimmy Garoppolo is the new Kirk Cousins but...
But I won't speak for you. If you think he's worth a first, then start printing the banners!
Ah... context... what a concept. Nevermind...
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@westside-steve said:
in case you missed it I was talking about the one we had for the first part of d
the season. And which of the ones he has traded away are in the top five or ten percent of quarterbacks? I know everyone thinks Jimmy Garoppolo is the new Kirk Cousins but...
But I won't speak for you. If you think he's worth a first, then start printing the banners!
Ah... context... what a concept. Nevermind...
FWIW, Garoppolo isn't going anywhere.
The Patriots look at him in the same way the Packers looked at Aaron Rogers.
HOF QB still playing at a high level and a 'youngster' with tremendous up-side holding the clipboard and learning from "The Master" until it is time to pass the baton.
Garoppolo is only a Rookie but NE has a ton of confidence in him to realize their succession planning.
Most professional FOs react. The good ones plan ahead. Because they are good, they also find diamonds in the rough.
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Not,to mention watching Odell Beckham these last few weeks. Wow is this gut replacing Cruz or what? I'm jealous.
Not,to mention watching Odell Beckham these last few weeks. Wow is this gut replacing Cruz or what? I'm jealous.
Nope. If The Gmen can get their Oline back to its former consistency while keeping their RB's healthy, they have one of the most dangerous passing attacks in the league.
Odell outside, Cruz working in the slot - that's all kinds of filthy. I really wish JPP could get healthy and return to form. I remember watching that late 2011 push and thinking the kid
was going to be a superstar. It just shows how fortunate one has to be in order to maintain success in the NFL.
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To New England. Throw in Manziel's ass to sweeten the deal.
Would you make that trade?
To New England. Throw in Manziel's ass to sweeten the deal.
Would you make that trade?
You screamed for Manziel and now you want to trade his ass.
Go where the wind blows, i'm okay with that.
No, i won't make that trade.
Unless you have 1 overall, this QB class is weak.
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Anybody remember Shep?
Who could forget.
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FWIW, Garoppolo isn't going anywhere.
The Patriots look at him in the same way the Packers looked at Aaron Rogers.
HOF QB still playing at a high level and a 'youngster' with tremendous up-side holding the clipboard and learning from "The Master" until it is time to pass the baton.
Garoppolo is only a Rookie but NE has a ton of confidence in him to realize their succession planning.
Most professional FOs react. The good ones plan ahead. Because they are good, they also find diamonds in the rough.
FWIW, Garoppolo isn't going anywhere.
The Patriots look at him in the same way the Packers looked at Aaron Rogers.
HOF QB still playing at a high level and a 'youngster' with tremendous up-side holding the clipboard and learning from "The Master" until it is time to pass the baton.
Garoppolo is only a Rookie but NE has a ton of confidence in him to realize their succession planning.
Most professional FOs react. The good ones plan ahead. Because they are good, they also find diamonds in the rough.
I am sure that is the Pats' hope.
I am sure that as Brady approaches 40 their search for his successor intensifies.
But besides hitting the jackpot with Brady, what evidence is there that the Pats have any special insight into QB talent?
To date... none...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
FWIW, Garoppolo isn't going anywhere.
The Patriots look at him in the same way the Packers looked at Aaron Rogers.
HOF QB still playing at a high level and a 'youngster' with tremendous up-side holding the clipboard and learning from "The Master" until it is time to pass the baton.
Garoppolo is only a Rookie but NE has a ton of confidence in him to realize their succession planning.
Most professional FOs react. The good ones plan ahead. Because they are good, they also find diamonds in the rough.
I am sure that is the Pats' hope.
I am sure that as Brady approaches 40 their search for his successor intensifies.
But besides hitting the jackpot with Brady, what evidence is there that the Pats have any special insight into QB talent?
To date... none...
I am sure that is the Pats' hope.
I am sure that as Brady approaches 40 their search for his successor intensifies.
But besides hitting the jackpot with Brady, what evidence is there that the Pats have any special insight into QB talent?
To date... none...
BRI-AN HOYER CLAP CLAP CLAPCLAPCLAP
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FWIW, Garoppolo isn't going anywhere.
The Patriots look at him in the same way the Packers looked at Aaron Rogers.
HOF QB still playing at a high level and a 'youngster' with tremendous up-side holding the clipboard and learning from "The Master" until it is time to pass the baton.
Garoppolo is only a Rookie but NE has a ton of confidence in him to realize their succession planning.
Most professional FOs react. The good ones plan ahead. Because they are good, they also find diamonds in the rough.
I am sure that is the Pats' hope.
I am sure that as Brady approaches 40 their search for his successor intensifies.
But besides hitting the jackpot with Brady, what evidence is there that the Pats have any special insight into QB talent?
To date... none...
But besides hitting the jackpot with Brady, what evidence is there that the Pats have any special insight into QB talent?
To date... none...
What evidence do I have that the Packers have any insight into QB talent, they've only had 2 in the last 20 years.
The Pats have had Brady for about 15 years or so and - before that - Drew Bledsoe. Even Tony Eason brought them to the SB and Steve Grogan very close.
We know the Browns, as an organization, is shit-poor when it comes to evaluating QB talent.
But, then again, dream on my friend.
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Jerry chooses to let DeMarco Murray walk, then signs Adrian Peterson.
We choose to let Hoyer walk, then package Manziel and Gordon for a first and a third.
Jerry franchises Dez Bryant, giving him time to play with the contract and evaluate Gordon as a possible replacement.
We package two firsts and a third to move up to #2 and take Mariota, who tears his hamstring in the National Championship game against Ohio State.
We take Kevin White, WR from WVU with our remaining first round pick.
We draft BPA after that, and then take Rakeem Cato in the 6th round.
Mariota opens as the starter, has a rocky rookie season, winning 7 games but posting solid franchise QB stats - over 60% completion, 2:1 TD to interception ratio, a handful of rushing touchdowns. White finishes the season in contention for OROY, as our main receiving threat and a game-changing talent. Mariota and White look oddly similar to 2008 Aaron Rodgers and Greg Jennings.
Romo is unable to win Dallas' first three games with Peterson, Dez and Gordon. Jerry names Manziel the starter. He wins 11 games and leads the Cowboys to an NFC Championship, where they ultimately lose on a costly Manziel fumble in the fourth quarter.
Mariota then goes on to lead the Browns to three AFC Championship appearances over the next 4 seasons, losing his first two but taking the third one in 2019, where the Browns face off against the Chip Kelly-led Eagles in the Super Bowl.
Mariota throws for 3 touchdowns and rushes for another in one of the best games of his entire career - a 45-28 drubbing of the Eagles.
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