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Trade GORDON and 1st rounder for Garoppolo

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  • ok well as long as you're giving credit i'll take the hose off....all I wanted really. lol

    ANd again it's not just Watkins it's some form of number one receiver we needed to acquire last season through draft or FA or scanning first energy for a tall black guy who looks like he can run real fast and having come out of the stands to Ric Flairs music. Just something.

    @clevfan4life said:

    black guy who looks like he can run real fast.

    Redundant

  • hindsight is a great thing...

  • Speaking of hindsight it doesn't look like Bill Belichick is in the business of letting bonafide starting quarterbacks slip by him.

    WSS

  • Seriously? A first rounder *and* a pro-bowl talent/locker room cancer for a previously second round guy with less than 30 passes? So many reasons this is stupid.

  • @miktoxic said:

    watkins had 50 something yards today and buffalo didn't make the playoffs.

    yeah he did what a lot of people thought he would do. nothing.

    and yet he has more than 100 yds more than our leading receiver who's in his 4th year and was catching balls from a hot Hoyer early in the season. It's not a stretch to say two things 1) Watkins would be well over 1000 yds receiving if he was a Brown and 2) he would have made Hawkins and Austin even better.

    And not just Watkins, but any of the stud #1's would have made this a vastly better offense. Hawkins and Austin are awesome route runners and short catch guys. They are not Gordon type receivers whom defense's have to give some buffer to or they wheel it downfield for 6. C'mom Mik this is simple football mechanics. Saying a rookie with just under 1000 yds did "nothing" though? C'mon dude. Give the kid some credit.

    @clevfan4life said:

    1) Watkins would be well over 1000 yds receiving if he was a Brown

    Not sure how you can make this assumption. Our offense has been horrendous since the early season bye week, adding a better receiver wouldn't have fixed it.

    But to Walter's trade idea. It's nothing but risk, first round pick and a first round talent for an unproven 2nd RD QB.

  • Isn't Gordon a restricted FA. The only way you get anything for him would be if Al Davis would come back to life. The Moron is quickly playing himself out of the NFL!

  • Isn't Gordon a restricted FA. The only way you get anything for him would be if Al Davis would come back to life. The Moron is quickly playing himself out of the NFL!

    @venom said:

    Isn't Gordon a restricted FA. The only way you get anything for him would be if Al Davis would come back to life. The Moron is quickly playing himself out of the NFL!

    He is now, apparently, because this season he's only played 5 games - after the browns suspended him for the finale.

  • Gordon and our #1 for Jimmy G?

    Ummmm... no.

  • I will ask again; do you guys do a mock draft on this board? Does Zombo? He seems so knowledgable I was just,wondering from a Cleveland perspective instead of the national mock drafts that,bombard us every year.

    @opal312 said:

    I will ask again; do you guys do a mock draft on this board? Does Zombo? He seems so knowledgable I was just,wondering from a Cleveland perspective instead of the national mock drafts that,bombard us every year.

    He lives in FL also Opal.........

  • Gordon and our #1 for Jimmy G?

    Ummmm... no.

    @tour2ma said:

    Gordon and our #1 for Jimmy G?

    Ummmm... no.

    Lord NO! You can't keep trying to fix mistakes with more mistakes!

  • Speaking of hindsight it doesn't look like Bill Belichick is in the business of letting bonafide starting quarterbacks slip by him.

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    Speaking of hindsight it doesn't look like Bill Belichick is in the business of letting bonafide starting quarterbacks slip by him.

    It doesn't? How many ex-Pat QBs are starting in the NFL?

  • @westside-steve said:

    in case you missed it I was talking about the one we had for the first part of d

    the season. And which of the ones he has traded away are in the top five or ten percent of quarterbacks? I know everyone thinks Jimmy Garoppolo is the new Kirk Cousins but...

    But I won't speak for you. If you think he's worth a first, then start printing the banners!

  • To New England. Throw in Manziel's ass to sweeten the deal.

    Would you make that trade?

    @walterwhite said:

    To New England. Throw in Manziel's ass to sweeten the deal.

    Would you make that trade?

    You are not allowed to suck anymore QB dick after Manziel.

  • @walterwhite said:

    To New England. Throw in Manziel's ass to sweeten the deal.

    Would you make that trade?

    You are not allowed to talk about QBs. You have the worst evaluation for the QB position.

    @itoldyou said:

    You have the worst evaluation for the QB position.

    Anybody remember Shep?

  • @westside-steve said:

    in case you missed it I was talking about the one we had for the first part of d

    the season. And which of the ones he has traded away are in the top five or ten percent of quarterbacks? I know everyone thinks Jimmy Garoppolo is the new Kirk Cousins but...

    But I won't speak for you. If you think he's worth a first, then start printing the banners!

    @westside-steve said:

    @westside-steve said:

    in case you missed it I was talking about the one we had for the first part of d

    the season. And which of the ones he has traded away are in the top five or ten percent of quarterbacks? I know everyone thinks Jimmy Garoppolo is the new Kirk Cousins but...

    But I won't speak for you. If you think he's worth a first, then start printing the banners!

    Ah... context... what a concept. Nevermind...

  • @westside-steve said:

    @westside-steve said:

    in case you missed it I was talking about the one we had for the first part of d

    the season. And which of the ones he has traded away are in the top five or ten percent of quarterbacks? I know everyone thinks Jimmy Garoppolo is the new Kirk Cousins but...

    But I won't speak for you. If you think he's worth a first, then start printing the banners!

    Ah... context... what a concept. Nevermind...

    @tour2ma said:

    FWIW, Garoppolo isn't going anywhere.

    The Patriots look at him in the same way the Packers looked at Aaron Rogers.

    HOF QB still playing at a high level and a 'youngster' with tremendous up-side holding the clipboard and learning from "The Master" until it is time to pass the baton.

    Garoppolo is only a Rookie but NE has a ton of confidence in him to realize their succession planning.

    Most professional FOs react. The good ones plan ahead. Because they are good, they also find diamonds in the rough.

  • Not,to mention watching Odell Beckham these last few weeks. Wow is this gut replacing Cruz or what? I'm jealous.

    @opal312 said:

    Not,to mention watching Odell Beckham these last few weeks. Wow is this gut replacing Cruz or what? I'm jealous.

    Nope. If The Gmen can get their Oline back to its former consistency while keeping their RB's healthy, they have one of the most dangerous passing attacks in the league.

    Odell outside, Cruz working in the slot - that's all kinds of filthy. I really wish JPP could get healthy and return to form. I remember watching that late 2011 push and thinking the kid

    was going to be a superstar. It just shows how fortunate one has to be in order to maintain success in the NFL.

  • To New England. Throw in Manziel's ass to sweeten the deal.

    Would you make that trade?

    @walterwhite said:

    To New England. Throw in Manziel's ass to sweeten the deal.

    Would you make that trade?

    You screamed for Manziel and now you want to trade his ass.

    Go where the wind blows, i'm okay with that.

    No, i won't make that trade.

    Unless you have 1 overall, this QB class is weak.

  • @itoldyou said:

    You have the worst evaluation for the QB position.

    Anybody remember Shep?

    @chicopee-john said:

    Anybody remember Shep?

    Who could forget.

  • @tour2ma said:

    FWIW, Garoppolo isn't going anywhere.

    The Patriots look at him in the same way the Packers looked at Aaron Rogers.

    HOF QB still playing at a high level and a 'youngster' with tremendous up-side holding the clipboard and learning from "The Master" until it is time to pass the baton.

    Garoppolo is only a Rookie but NE has a ton of confidence in him to realize their succession planning.

    Most professional FOs react. The good ones plan ahead. Because they are good, they also find diamonds in the rough.

    @chicopee-john said:

    FWIW, Garoppolo isn't going anywhere.

    The Patriots look at him in the same way the Packers looked at Aaron Rogers.

    HOF QB still playing at a high level and a 'youngster' with tremendous up-side holding the clipboard and learning from "The Master" until it is time to pass the baton.

    Garoppolo is only a Rookie but NE has a ton of confidence in him to realize their succession planning.

    Most professional FOs react. The good ones plan ahead. Because they are good, they also find diamonds in the rough.

    I am sure that is the Pats' hope.

    I am sure that as Brady approaches 40 their search for his successor intensifies.

    But besides hitting the jackpot with Brady, what evidence is there that the Pats have any special insight into QB talent?

    To date... none...