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  • Telling :

    Tony Grossi @TonyGrossi · 21m 21 minutes ago In #Browns locker room, Brian Hoyer's nameplate removed from his locker.

    @jafbf said:

    Telling :

    Brian took a souvenir?.....my guess...

    Douche bag Skip Bayless just called Johnny an alcoholic and a liar....hahahaha.....this is getting hilarious really.....and Johnny says he didn't have a party, he was just out partying with friends from Texas(because there's a difference) and he has to stop being a jackass(his words)....hahahaha....you cant write this stuff

    http://www.complex.com/sports/2014/12/skip-bayless-called-johnny-manziel-alcoholic-liar-espn-first-take

  • @tiamat63 said:

    @baconhound said:

    Defense can't stop the run

    Until the last couple carries, defense did a fine job against the run today. That's with a guy signed 6 weeks ago and 2 practice squad players.

    Bad special teams

    Great coverage teams, return? Questionable. Not having a reliable body to field them hurts.

    Lack of size/talent in key offensive positions

    Such as? QB? That's about it.

    QB controversy without a decent one to be had

    There was no controversy. Controversy would imply the backup out-performing the starter. Clearly, couldn't be further from the truth.

    According to everyone on here, not me, horrible OC

    Horrible? No... but he makes questionable decisions from time to time.

    You can survive with one Gabriel/Hawkins/Benjamin on the WR crew but not 2 or 3

    @baconhound said:

    You can survive with one Gabriel/Hawkins/Benjamin on the WR crew but not 2 or 3

    The Browns did better with them in the lineup, healthy than with Gordon.....

  • no....no qb's.....but maybe move intoa top 10 type of pick

    edit...raiders have #5 and seem like the type of team to take johnny and/or gordon

    @mudfly said:

    no....no qb's.....but maybe move intoa top 10 type of pick

    edit...raiders have #5 and seem like the type of team to take johnny and/or gordon

    The Raiders have Carr, who I then and now would have liked to have gotten with the Johnny Pick. We could have stayed in that spot.

  • Telling :

    Tony Grossi @TonyGrossi · 21m 21 minutes ago In #Browns locker room, Brian Hoyer's nameplate removed from his locker.

    @jafbf said:

    Telling :

    Is it really that telling? He's a UFA.

  • @tml1138 said:

    WSS, if Manziel would've worked harder so he could do the walk along with the talk, then yes people would be behind him. But:

    1. He's shown he doesn't work hard, just parties, and his performance showed that.

    ///He's showing nothing of the sort. He's shown that he does party but there's no credible evidence that he doesn't also work hard. His performance shows a rookie thrown into the fire after a team collapse.///

    2. He admits he hasn't worked hard enough and blamed that on his poor showing.

    3. Continues to screw off and party, and now affecting other players.

    ///any professional looking back on any kind of failure will kick themselves in the ass and say man maybe I should have worked harder. After the Cincinnati game do you think Joe Thomas whose performance was horrendous might have looked back and say damn it I wish I prepared a little more?/////

    3/////and the haters would say if he didn't party with his teammates he wasn't bonding with them./////

    Tour, I agree with you on all three, except I'm not sure yet I'd be so lenient with Gordon. Let's just say I'll be fine with whatever the staff decides to do with him. If they decide he has to go, better be for some kind of trade, not just a cut.

    @westside-steve said:

    @tml1138 said:

    WSS, if Manziel would've worked harder so he could do the walk along with the talk, then yes people would be behind him. But:

    1. He's shown he doesn't work hard, just parties, and his performance showed that.

    ///He's showing nothing of the sort. He's shown that he does party but there's no credible evidence that he doesn't also work hard. His performance shows a rookie thrown into the fire after a team collapse.///

    Shaw was put in the same situation, and did better than our first round draft pick.

    2. He admits he hasn't worked hard enough and blamed that on his poor showing.

    3. Continues to screw off and party, and now affecting other players.

    ///any professional looking back on any kind of failure will kick themselves in the ass and say man maybe I should have worked harder. After the Cincinnati game do you think Joe Thomas whose performance was horrendous might have looked back and say damn it I wish I prepared a little more?/////

    So hindsight is what it is. Except where Joe Thomas is probably being hard on himself if he says it, I believe Johnny is right about himself, even if he doesn't believe it or care to believe it.

    3/////and the haters would say if he didn't party with his teammates he wasn't bonding with them./////

    There are no win situations I guess. Bonding with them by partying with them just a day and half away from game time...eh...find a better way to bond I say.

    Tour, I agree with you on all three, except I'm not sure yet I'd be so lenient with Gordon. Let's just say I'll be fine with whatever the staff decides to do with him. If they decide he has to go, better be for some kind of trade, not just a cut.

  • @mudfly said:

    no....no qb's.....but maybe move intoa top 10 type of pick

    edit...raiders have #5 and seem like the type of team to take johnny and/or gordon

    The Raiders have Carr, who I then and now would have liked to have gotten with the Johnny Pick. We could have stayed in that spot.

    @mohican said:

    The Raiders have Carr....

    who Im sure would love to throw to Gordon.....🙂

  • @jafbf said:

    Telling :

    Is it really that telling? He's a UFA.

    @bbedward said:

    Is it really that telling? He's a UFA.

    They left Gordon's Locker prepped when he got suspended after the Draft, so that causes me to wonder.

  • we're assuming "they" took it down......?

    could it be Brian did?....just in case he isnt back?

    because technically, Brian is no longer a Brown, while Gordon was.

  • Bayleast is a tool trying to make a splash...

    Hoyer's nameplate probably does signify an end, no matter who took it down.

  • Bayleast is a tool trying to make a splash...

    Hoyer's nameplate probably does signify an end, no matter who took it down.

    @tour2ma said:

    Bayleast is a tool trying to make a splash...

    Hoyer's nameplate probably does signify an end, no matter who took it down.

    yep...they just said on the radio that Hoyer took it down .....

  • Pettine's presser like most this season, very good job.

    I did like his reference to the schedule next year, at least he knows the schedule was easy this year.

  • When we lined up Gabriel, Hawkins & Benjamin it looked like a High School team

    @baconhound said:

    When we lined up Gabriel, Hawkins & Benjamin it looked like a High School team

    But played like a professional playoff team. When Gordon returned they started playing like a high school team.

    Can anyone tell me the last team that won a Super Bowl with a superstar WR?