# 12 and # 19
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I do not understand the thinking of D-line over O-line...
It took only one injury to decimate our O-line. It took three to diminish our D-line.
For Tour: Tracking to Jan 15 Deadline.
Thank you, my Ag-ish friend... some talent declaring, more deciding.
One thing I just learned was this whole "draft grade request process"... did not know it existed until now.
I do not understand the thinking of D-line over O-line....
Probably because our defense ranked dead last out of all teams this year in run defense, allowing an average of over 140 yards rushing per game. Or maybe the fact that the teams we play next year have some of the best running backs in the game, including Le'Veon Bell (twice), Marshawn Lynch, Jeremy Hill (twice), Jamaal Charles, Frank Gore, etc, that will fucking CRUCIFY us unless we get some serious additions to the D-Line. Take your pick.
"That which can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence”. - Christopher Hitchens "The universe is under no obligation to make sense to you". - Neil deGrasse Tyson -
For the 12 amd 19 pick, the best thing to do for the draft would be have Pettine and farmer go to Johnny and say - what do you need in this draft to help you succeed? What players out there do you think your game would blend with best?
It's important that your pieces on offense for optimally
For the 12 amd 19 pick, the best thing to do for the draft would be have Pettine and farmer go to Johnny and say - what do you need in this draft to help you succeed? What players out there do you think your game would blend with best?
It's important that your pieces on offense for optimally
I think it's time for you to stop hittin' the blue there, Heisenberg, and come back to fucking reality.
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For the 12 amd 19 pick, the best thing to do for the draft would be have Pettine and farmer go to Johnny and say - what do you need in this draft to help you succeed? What players out there do you think your game would blend with best?
It's important that your pieces on offense for optimally
For the 12 amd 19 pick, the best thing to do for the draft would be have Pettine and farmer go to Johnny and say - what do you need in this draft to help you succeed? What players out there do you think your game would blend with best?
It's important that your pieces on offense for optimally
Thats Hilarious, I gotta admit you have a great sense of humor. I about fell out of my chair on that 1.
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For the Rose Bowl:
I've watched 80% of Oregon games over the past two years. Here is my watch list.
Arik Armstead DE, #9 - Huge and athletic. Is 6-8, 280 and uses it to eat up space. Great prospect to add to the Defensive line. He played great against Michigan State. After the playoffs and the combine, this guy will rise to a Top 20 Pick.
Byron Marshall WR/RB, #9 - Marshall has always impressed me because of his vision and burst, however, now he is showing his versatility. This year he moved to slot receiver/back and has flourished. I could see him going in the 4th like DeAnthony Thomas. While not as dynamic, Marshall has more polish.
Marcus Mariota - I know there is no chance we would get him on the Browns, however, some members need to watch him to realize that he is not a running quarterback. Also they will see that he progresses through his reads and has excellent pocket movement. So many people post responses incorrectly about Mariota.
Joe Walker ILB, #35 - Always around the ball. Walker is an excellent run stuffer with good size. The last linebacker I remember seeing pop up this much was Kiko Alonso. Walker isn't the athlete Alonso is, however he's a steady force and should make the NFL. Probably stays in school for next season, but should be a solid Day 3 pick.
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i want to sell what tacos is using. i can retire in a month. must be good stuff.
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All I'm saying is that if you spend a first round draft pick on your qb, it would make sense to then spend your next first round pick on a player that goes well with the style of your first round qb. This is common sense.
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What do people think about Danny Shelton? Sounds like just what the doctor ordered at NT for our defense: nine sacks, 88 tackles, 16.5 for a loss. At 339 pounds a good space eater/ run stuffer with pas rush ability.
"I said, 'I need someone who's going to want to get on the roller coaster with me knowing that it's not always going to be fun,'" -Paul DePodesta -
All I'm saying is that if you spend a first round draft pick on your qb, it would make sense to then spend your next first round pick on a player that goes well with the style of your first round qb. This is common sense.
All I'm saying is that if you spend a first round draft pick on your qb, it would make sense to then spend your next first round pick on a player that goes well with the style of your first round qb. This is common sense.
So far Johnny's style is to pee his pants on the field. We need the best O-line in football history.
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What do people think about Danny Shelton? Sounds like just what the doctor ordered at NT for our defense: nine sacks, 88 tackles, 16.5 for a loss. At 339 pounds a good space eater/ run stuffer with pas rush ability.
What do people think about Danny Shelton? Sounds like just what the doctor ordered at NT for our defense: nine sacks, 88 tackles, 16.5 for a loss. At 339 pounds a good space eater/ run stuffer with pas rush ability.
is Phil gone next year?
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I do not understand the thinking of D-line over O-line....
Probably because our defense ranked dead last out of all teams this year in run defense, allowing an average of over 140 yards rushing per game. Or maybe the fact that the teams we play next year have some of the best running backs in the game, including Le'Veon Bell (twice), Marshawn Lynch, Jeremy Hill (twice), Jamaal Charles, Frank Gore, etc, that will fucking CRUCIFY us unless we get some serious additions to the D-Line. Take your pick.
Probably because our defense ranked dead last out of all teams this year in run defense, allowing an average of over 140 yards rushing per game. Or maybe the fact that the teams we play next year have some of the best running backs in the game, including Le'Veon Bell (twice), Marshawn Lynch, Jeremy Hill (twice), Jamaal Charles, Frank Gore, etc, that will fucking CRUCIFY us unless we get some serious additions to the D-Line. Take your pick.
Nothing you said was wrong, but I think that is "analysis light".
We started with a new scheme that we were told would take until at least game 6 to learn. Almost on schedule the D came together and then the injuries started and never stopped. Every D-line starter missed time as did most of our LB crew... some were hurt twice. We had to start names that were not even on our practice squad at the beginning of the season, just to have enough bodies.
Contrast the above accounting with an O-line that started off well, rapidly rose to acclaim and then was essentially undone by one player going down.
Like I said... it's hard for me to understand any case for our D-line needs outweighing our O-line.
All I'm saying is that if you spend a first round draft pick on your qb, it would make sense to then spend your next first round pick on a player that goes well with the style of your first round qb. This is common sense.
No. What you said was "ask Johnny"... and that is a whole other level of stupid. Which is hard to believe possible when you start with it's Johnny's job.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Probably because our defense ranked dead last out of all teams this year in run defense, allowing an average of over 140 yards rushing per game. Or maybe the fact that the teams we play next year have some of the best running backs in the game, including Le'Veon Bell (twice), Marshawn Lynch, Jeremy Hill (twice), Jamaal Charles, Frank Gore, etc, that will fucking CRUCIFY us unless we get some serious additions to the D-Line. Take your pick.
Nothing you said was wrong, but I think that is "analysis light".
We started with a new scheme that we were told would take until at least game 6 to learn. Almost on schedule the D came together and then the injuries started and never stopped. Every D-line starter missed time as did most of our LB crew... some were hurt twice. We had to start names that were not even on our practice squad at the beginning of the season, just to have enough bodies.
Contrast the above accounting with an O-line that started off well, rapidly rose to acclaim and then was essentially undone by one player going down.
Like I said... it's hard for me to understand any case for our D-line needs outweighing our O-line.
All I'm saying is that if you spend a first round draft pick on your qb, it would make sense to then spend your next first round pick on a player that goes well with the style of your first round qb. This is common sense.
No. What you said was "ask Johnny"... and that is a whole other level of stupid. Which is hard to believe possible when you start with it's Johnny's job.
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For the 12 amd 19 pick, the best thing to do for the draft would be have Pettine and farmer go to Johnny and say - what do you need in this draft to help you succeed? What players out there do you think your game would blend with best?
It's important that your pieces on offense for optimally
For the 12 amd 19 pick, the best thing to do for the draft would be have Pettine and farmer go to Johnny and say - what do you need in this draft to help you succeed? What players out there do you think your game would blend with best?
It's important that your pieces on offense for optimally
I get what you're saying but I'd only be on board with this if Johnny had gotten us to 9-7 or 8-8. That would have meant that he actually put the party cup down and learned how to be a NFL QB. He doesn't know enough about the NFL game to have a say about what pieces would suit him best. Hell he has yet to show that he even belongs on the field. Personally, I'd like him to go into hiding and study all off season then at OTA's, Mini Camp, and Camp be the first one there and the last one to leave. I think that he is largely out of his element because he kept himself out of his element. If he does all that and still doesn't cut the mustard then it's obvious it's a talent thing. If he doesn't and things remain the same then it's obvious that he couldn't care less. I'd be more comfortable asking Hoyer this than JM.
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I'm starting to think that we might be picking too late in this draft. If we were in the top 8 there might be some impact players. But I'm starting to think we should maybe trade down and get ammo for the following year. We should really see if we could possibly make a run at Bosa.
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OL and DL in the first round, period. OT perhaps higher: Slot in the rookie at RT, move Schwartz to Greco's position or backup. Then a good DL. Second round: ILB. After that, BPA.
A FA to consider is Fairley, the Lions DT. Unrestricted off his rookie deal at the end of this year. Injured his knee week 8 so he's off the radar somewhat.
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I'm starting to think that we might be picking too late in this draft. If we were in the top 8 there might be some impact players. But I'm starting to think we should maybe trade down and get ammo for the following year. We should really see if we could possibly make a run at Bosa.
We should really see if we could possibly make a run at Bosa.
He's probably going top 3 if not 1st overall. It would take a hell of a ransom.
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I'm starting to think that we might be picking too late in this draft. If we were in the top 8 there might be some impact players. But I'm starting to think we should maybe trade down and get ammo for the following year. We should really see if we could possibly make a run at Bosa.
I'm starting to think that we might be picking too late in this draft. If we were in the top 8 there might be some impact players. But I'm starting to think we should maybe trade down and get ammo for the following year. We should really see if we could possibly make a run at Bosa.
He's probably going top 3 if not 1st overall. It would take a hell of a ransom.
Bosa won't be available to anyone in the draft. He is only a sophomore.
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I'm starting to think that we might be picking too late in this draft. If we were in the top 8 there might be some impact players. But I'm starting to think we should maybe trade down and get ammo for the following year. We should really see if we could possibly make a run at Bosa.
He's probably going top 3 if not 1st overall. It would take a hell of a ransom.
Bosa won't be available to anyone in the draft. He is only a sophomore.
Bosa won't be available to anyone in the draft. He is only a sophomore.
Were were talking 2016 and loading up to make a run at him.
I seriously see JJ Watt potential in Bosa. Completely changes the dynamic of a defense.
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Bosa is damn good, but an overall #1 candidate? No...
And please stop with the Schwartz replacing Greco nonsense...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
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