Have the Browns Ever Had the Right Coach Since 99?
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I think Pettine is the man. I'm not as certain about his O coordinator however. Just not sold yet.
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I think Pettine is the man. I'm not as certain about his O coordinator however. Just not sold yet.
I think Pettine is the man. I'm not as certain about his O coordinator however. Just not sold yet.
Fo sho, I wouldn't complain at all if we lost Shanahan (but the only way we're going to have a different OC is if he got an HC job, which he wouldn't) - not that he doesn't deserve more time I just wouldn't mind an immediate improvement.
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I do wonder, maybe the Gipper or somebody could look this up, but around the league what's the average occurrence of coaches lasting less than two seasons for other teams?
As for any of those coaches In N Out in the blink of an eye of course I would wonder what a 3 year tenure might have produced. At any rate the act of replacement didn't seem to help. Of all of them I guess I'd have liked to see Eric Mangini get another roll of the dice. Who knows?
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The Mangini firing set this org back nearly a decade. That was a debacle, and all cause his staff was "mean" to McCoy who was our anointed one at the time. I have zero doubt we would have been in the AFC championship by now had we kept him. Like Pettine or not we're stuck with him, we can't fire a coach for awhile or it's the dark ages for Cleveland football....some of you will be dead by the time the Browns sniff a .500 season again. Do we want to be the Raiders? If you think being a Browns fan is miserable.......
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I like Pettine but even with the support shown to him by Haslam he will only have a short time to prove he can turn the club around. I think he can do it. From the comments my guess is of the past coaches most here would have picked Mangini to have been the coach if given time to turn it around in Cleveland.
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The greatest coach in the history of the Browns was Sam Rigatoni. They should see if he would come out of retirement to coach again.
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I do wonder, maybe the Gipper or somebody could look this up, but around the league what's the average occurrence of coaches lasting less than two seasons for other teams?
As for any of those coaches In N Out in the blink of an eye of course I would wonder what a 3 year tenure might have produced. At any rate the act of replacement didn't seem to help. Of all of them I guess I'd have liked to see Eric Mangini get another roll of the dice. Who knows?
WSS
I do wonder, maybe the Gipper or somebody could look this up, but around the league what's the average occurrence of coaches lasting less than two seasons for other teams?
http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2014/10/1/6874725/nfl-coaches-hot-seat-dennis-allen-teams-ranked
http://ftw.usatoday.com/2013/12/nfl-one-and-done-chudzinski-carroll-mora-schottenheimer
Like Pettine or not we're stuck with him...
Then it's a good thing we like him.
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I kinda mean over the last 15 years or so.
(2nd link didn't work)
WSS
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The only coach on that list I thought was okay was Mangini. It's not a surprise to me to hear he's getting interviews for a HC gig around the league right now. Pettine showed some good things but got marred in a QB carousel. Worst on that list by far was Pat "deer in the headlights" Shurmer. No matter what the fuck happened bad on the field Shurmer had this look on his face like he was just baffled he was there.
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I do wonder, maybe the Gipper or somebody could look this up, but around the league what's the average occurrence of coaches lasting less than two seasons for other teams?
http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2014/10/1/6874725/nfl-coaches-hot-seat-dennis-allen-teams-ranked
http://ftw.usatoday.com/2013/12/nfl-one-and-done-chudzinski-carroll-mora-schottenheimer
Like Pettine or not we're stuck with him...
Then it's a good thing we like him.
yes it most certainly is a good thing.
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As far as Shurmur goes, I wasn't enamored with him...but the last time I really thought the Browns were really brewing something on defense was under Shurmur. I initially did not like that we were switching schemes again from Mangini's 3-4 but honestly I really thought the 4-3 we were developing under Shurmur was going to be special. While I didn't hate Hortons 3-4 we ran that year I still thought it was a step back from what we were building the previous two years. So I give Shurmur and his staff some credit. And what I thought even back then was that even if a coach shows some sideline misjudgements, how do his players relate to him...and to a man that lockeroom was behind Shurmur. I don't have much doubt that given two more years under him we might still have been playoff contenders this year. Continuity and consistency trump everything. Pettine has to be here for years to come.
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I think we've had the "Coach" three times...
Davis was just a terrible GM.
Mangini was just in Holmgren's way.
Pet looks to be the best we've seen.
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The greatest coach in the history of the Browns was Sam Rigatoni. They should see if he would come out of retirement to coach again.
The greatest coach in the history of the Browns was Sam Rigatoni. They should see if he would come out of retirement to coach again.
That is a bad idea.....but you are making me hungry now for some pasta.
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I think Pettine is the right guy and Farmer could be the right guy if Haslam leaves his checkbook behind and visits a monastery, taking a vow of silence for the summer.
GO BROWNS !
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Pet's a fine coach. I'm glad they're keeping him, so it seems.
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I really had no issue with Mangini through Pettine. Too often as fans we blame the coaches when really the problem with the Browns since 1999 is a gross lack of talent.
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The Mangini firing set this org back nearly a decade. That was a debacle, and all cause his staff was "mean" to McCoy who was our anointed one at the time. I have zero doubt we would have been in the AFC championship by now had we kept him. Like Pettine or not we're stuck with him, we can't fire a coach for awhile or it's the dark ages for Cleveland football....some of you will be dead by the time the Browns sniff a .500 season again. Do we want to be the Raiders? If you think being a Browns fan is miserable.......
The Mangini firing set this org back nearly a decade. That was a debacle, and all cause his staff was "mean" to McCoy who was our anointed one at the time. I have zero doubt we would have been in the AFC championship by now had we kept him. Like Pettine or not we're stuck with him, we can't fire a coach for awhile or it's the dark ages for Cleveland football....some of you will be dead by the time the Browns sniff a .500 season again. Do we want to be the Raiders? If you think being a Browns fan is miserable.......
Agreed. I think Mangini was showing real progress until the fat fuck Holmgren came.
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Mangini got a bad rap as being too strict probably stuff he got from Belichik.
I think Mangina was OK, but I'm happy with pettine.
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