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  • sadbrownsfan S
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    S sadbrownsfan wrote on last edited by
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    http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/global/

    Global Highlights
    • The year 2014 was the warmest year across global land and ocean surfaces since records began in 1880. The annually-averaged temperature was 0.69°C (1.24°F) above the 20th century average of 13.9°C (57.0°F), easily breaking the previous records of 2005 and 2010 by 0.04°C (0.07°F). This also marks the 38th consecutive year (since 1977) that the yearly global temperature was above average. Including 2014, 9 of the 10 warmest years in the 135-year period of record have occurred in the 21st century. 1998 currently ranks as the fourth warmest year on record.
    • The 2014 global average ocean temperature was also record high, at 0.57°C (1.03°F) above the 20th century average of 16.1°C (60.9°F), breaking the previous records of 1998 and 2003 by 0.05°C (0.09°F). Notably, ENSO-neutral conditions were present during all of 2014.
    • The 2014 global average land surface temperature was 1.00°C (1.80°F) above the 20th century average of 8.5°C (47.3°F), the fourth highest annual value on record.
    • Precipitation measured at land-based stations around the globe was near average on balance for 2014, at 0.52 mm below the long-term average. However, as is typical, precipitation varied greatly from region to region. This is the third consecutive year with near-average global precipitation at land-based stations.
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      C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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      Except they are only 38 percent sure.

      LOL.

      http://www.bostonnewstime.com/national/90224-nasa-climate-scientists-we-said-2014-was-the-warmest-but-we-re-only-38-sure.html

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        MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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        That's generally how a margin of error works. There will be one associated with every data point they use. So it is most likely the hottest year on record, or it is just below the hottest year on record. I am not sure how that is a win for you.

        Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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          MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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          ENSO_Temps_500.gif

          http://skepticalscience.com/graphics.php?g=67

          Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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            C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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            1. wenty-year hiatus in rising temperatures has climate ...

              www.theaustralian.com.au/news/features/twenty-year...

              Mar 30, 2013 · The fact that global surface temperatures have not followed the expectedglobal warming pattern is now widely accepted. Picture: Ray Strange Source: The ...
            2. A peer reviewed admission that "global surface temperatures ...

              wattsupwiththat.com/2011/07/04/a-peer-reviewed-admission... Cached

              Jul 04, 2011 · Breaking: A peer reviewed admission that “global surface temperatures didnot rise between 1998 and 2008″ – Dr David Whitehouse on the PNAS paper ...

            Global warming: Who pressed the pause button? | The Economist

            www.economist.com/news/...rising-temperatures-over-past... Cached

            Mar 08, 2014 · Global warming Who pressed the pause button? The slowdown in risingtemperatures over the past 15 years goes from being unexplained to overexplained

            As Carbon Dioxide Levels Continue To Rise, Global ...

            www.forbes.com/sites/jamestaylor/2013/03/06/as-carbon... Cached

            Mar 06, 2013 · New data from the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration show atmospheric carbon dioxide levels are continuing to rise but global temperatures are ...
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              MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by MLD Woody
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              Please don't post google searches. Just post an article or two. The "throw shit at the wall and see what sticks" technique is played out. Also, the concerns of your links are addressed in my last link.

              Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                T The Cysko Kid wrote on last edited by
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                I don't see what you have a problem with woody? He essentially just posted four articles. I'm not reading them, or yours, because I couldn't give a shit about global warming but the fashion in which he posts his isn't bothersome to me.

                Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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                  LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on last edited by
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                  Cysko, Cal has a bad habit of just slinging mountains of links to sites because he did a google search. They could all be billybobsbackyard.blog.com types of sites but it doesn't matter so long as you show a lot of them.

                  He basically only does it to Woody though haha.

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                    T The Cysko Kid wrote on last edited by
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                    Yeah one of them is from whatsupwitthat I wouldn't trust it but the economist and Forbes ought to be somewhat reputable.

                    Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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                      MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                      Mostly me, haha. I think you're right.

                      I'm just saying, if we're trying to have some back and forth or debate here, that helps no one. Either posting Google searches or posting 10 posts in rapid succession from all over the internet.

                      Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                      • T The Cysko Kid

                        Yeah one of them is from whatsupwitthat I wouldn't trust it but the economist and Forbes ought to be somewhat reputable.

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                        gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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                        @the-cysko-kid said:

                        Yeah one of them is from whatsupwitthat I wouldn't trust it but the economist and Forbes ought to be somewhat reputable.

                        FWIW, the Economist article basically explains the pause in temperature rise, ending with:

                        The solar cycle is already turning. And aerosol cooling is likely to be reined in by China’s anti-pollution laws. Most of the circumstances that have put the planet’s temperature rise on “pause” look temporary. Like the Terminator, global warming will be back.
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                          gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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                          So either Cal's changed his tune on global warming, or didn't really read the article.

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                            Browns149B Browns149 wrote on last edited by
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                            Of course global warming will be back.

                            It's called summer 😛

                            "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
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                              C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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                              I simply posted more than one article, in response to one.

                              CO2 is going up, and there has been a huge lull in gw.

                              Go figure, when the libturds keep parroting Al Gorish with

                              asinine, politically oriented alarmism.

                              It always comes around to liberal political power, and money...

                              which is what that one UN official admitted - that global warming was

                              the only chance for global redistribution of wealth.

                              Which means, any lie is a good lie, and any half truth, is a good truth,

                              to the "end justifies the means".

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                                T The Cysko Kid wrote on last edited by
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                                Without curbing rampant population growth we can't stop global warming. It's my opinion that when we become a legit danger something will put a hurting on us. Plague, war, crab people whatever.

                                Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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                                • T The Cysko Kid

                                  I don't see what you have a problem with woody? He essentially just posted four articles. I'm not reading them, or yours, because I couldn't give a shit about global warming but the fashion in which he posts his isn't bothersome to me.

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                                  ballpeenB ballpeen wrote on last edited by
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                                  @the-cysko-kid said:

                                  I don't see what you have a problem with woody? He essentially just posted four articles. I'm not reading them, or yours, because I couldn't give a shit about global warming but the fashion in which he posts his isn't bothersome to me.

                                  I agree. Who gives a shit? We, our children, grandchildren and great grandchildren will have survived before the oceans rise 8 inches.

                                  If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
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                                    @the-cysko-kid said:

                                    I don't see what you have a problem with woody? He essentially just posted four articles. I'm not reading them, or yours, because I couldn't give a shit about global warming but the fashion in which he posts his isn't bothersome to me.

                                    I agree. Who gives a shit? We, our children, grandchildren and great grandchildren will have survived before the oceans rise 8 inches.

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                                    MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                                    @ballpeen said:

                                    I agree. Who gives a shit? We, our children, grandchildren and great grandchildren will have survived before the oceans rise 8 inches.

                                    I would still feel bad about fucking over my great great grandkids. (or maybe just great grandkids for me, idk your age).

                                    I think the notion of "it isn't affecting me now, so it is not my problem" is part of the reason we are here right now.

                                    Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                                      I simply posted more than one article, in response to one.

                                      CO2 is going up, and there has been a huge lull in gw.

                                      Go figure, when the libturds keep parroting Al Gorish with

                                      asinine, politically oriented alarmism.

                                      It always comes around to liberal political power, and money...

                                      which is what that one UN official admitted - that global warming was

                                      the only chance for global redistribution of wealth.

                                      Which means, any lie is a good lie, and any half truth, is a good truth,

                                      to the "end justifies the means".

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                                      MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                                      @calfoxwc said:

                                      I simply posted more than one article, in response to one.

                                      CO2 is going up, and there has been a huge lull in gw.

                                      Go figure, when the libturds keep parroting Al Gorish with

                                      asinine, politically oriented alarmism.

                                      It always comes around to liberal political power, and money...

                                      which is what that one UN official admitted - that global warming was

                                      the only chance for global redistribution of wealth.

                                      Which means, any lie is a good lie, and any half truth, is a good truth,

                                      to the "end justifies the means".

                                      You describe it as a "huge lull", but that isn't necessarily the case. This slow down was addressed in a link I posted. That site does a good job explaining it all IMO.

                                      You then go on about "libturds", and "Al Gorish" and politics in general. My suggestion would be to ignore the politicians, and look at the scientists. The real experts in the field. Look at the peer reviewed studies and impartial data. No lies, no politics.

                                      Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                                        S Stewie wrote on last edited by
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                                        Some global warming tonight when Obama spewed his State of the Union hot air.

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                                          LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on last edited by
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                                          I haven't seen a State of the Union by a president yet that wasn't just complete horse shit. Every president does it but the thing that irritates me the most is the "...and that reminds me of (insert male name) and (insert female name) from Podunk, Iowa who sent me a letter...." It could be on any subject and all of a sudden they can go to the mail bag and come back with some great or awful tale for the audience to gasp or applaud.

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