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Why I believe Connor Shaw will be our Russell Wilson

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  • There is a lot to like about Connor Shaw but I would agree with what others have posted about his arm strength. From what I have read when it comes to velocity of throwing a football it is not something that can be improved with weight training or exercises but just something you have it or you don't.

    If it could be developed I have no doubt Shaw would be working 100 percent to achieve it.

  • An undrafted QB lacking physical ability but high on intangibles who takes good care of the football? Yeah, we had one of them starting last year as well. Connor Shaw is Brian Hoyer 2.0.

  • VesnaKociper said:

    Dumbest fucking post I ever read. Sorry man, but you need to get a girlfriend, or a job, or take up jacking off 20 times a day. Wow, Shaw has 2 inches on Wilson? Why not get Pao Gasol to play quarterback? That bastard has 14 inches on Wilson.

    Dude, seriously, this is all fantasy shit, "we are a team on the rise"? Were you watching Brazillian Fart videos the last 6 games? On the rise? Please, enlighten me as to what measurable categories that Browns were on the rise in? Please, try to make up more shit fast, because I am a lot closer to the grave than I am the cradle, and i would like to hear this crock of horseshit before my ashes get scattered all over Katy Perry.

    The Browns WERE a rising team when they were 6-3, but the 1 - 6 team that finished? Not on the rise of anything other than shit-stink.

    Connor Shaw isn't going to ever be a starter in Cleveland, let alone anywhere else in the NFL. If the Browns don't want Hoyer, which is by far their best choice at QB, then get rid of the entire QB crew and start from scratch. Shaw is shit. Nothing more.

    This is one of the funniest fucking things I've read on this forum

  • Hey man good write-up, don't let the riff-raff comments bog it down. While I really don't see what you're saying at all, I do think he's a guy I could see develop into a back-up potentially.

  • C'Mon guys, don't pick on the kid! It could happen. Hey while we're on the subject where do you fellas think I should take my date Paula Abdul this weekend after I win the 300 million dollar lottery?

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    C'Mon guys, don't pick on the kid! It could happen. Hey while we're on the subject where do you fellas think I should take my date Paula Abdul this weekend after I win the 300 million dollar lottery?

    WSS

    In your own fantasy you choose Paula Abdul?!

    whats your dream car, dodge neon with an aftermarket spoiler?

  • @westside-steve said:

    C'Mon guys, don't pick on the kid! It could happen. Hey while we're on the subject where do you fellas think I should take my date Paula Abdul this weekend after I win the 300 million dollar lottery?

    WSS

    In your own fantasy you choose Paula Abdul?!

    whats your dream car, dodge neon with an aftermarket spoiler?

    @roycerolls said:

    In your own fantasy you choose Paula Abdul?!

    whats your dream car, dodge neon with an aftermarket spoiler?

    HA!......

  • I like Connor, but after watching him play 4qtrs in the NFL, it was pretty obvious that he lacks the arm strength to play the position as a starter...... He has the toughness and heart though, I'll give the kid that.

    @d-bone said:

    I like Connor, but after watching him play 4qtrs in the NFL, it was pretty obvious that he lacks the arm strength to play the position as a starter...... He has the toughness and heart though, I'll give the kid that.

    Ya, he's not starting material. He's a poor man's Colt McCoy.

    His ceiling is backup.

    Zombo

  • VesnaKociper said:

    Dumbest fucking post I ever read. Sorry man, but you need to get a girlfriend, or a job, or take up jacking off 20 times a day. Wow, Shaw has 2 inches on Wilson? Why not get Pao Gasol to play quarterback? That bastard has 14 inches on Wilson.

    Dude, seriously, this is all fantasy shit, "we are a team on the rise"? Were you watching Brazillian Fart videos the last 6 games? On the rise? Please, enlighten me as to what measurable categories that Browns were on the rise in? Please, try to make up more shit fast, because I am a lot closer to the grave than I am the cradle, and i would like to hear this crock of horseshit before my ashes get scattered all over Katy Perry.

    The Browns WERE a rising team when they were 6-3, but the 1 - 6 team that finished? Not on the rise of anything other than shit-stink.

    Connor Shaw isn't going to ever be a starter in Cleveland, let alone anywhere else in the NFL. If the Browns don't want Hoyer, which is by far their best choice at QB, then get rid of the entire QB crew and start from scratch. Shaw is shit. Nothing more.

    Coming from the guy who said he wouldn't watch the super bowl, then posts a thread about his thoughts on the super bowl.

    Pete Carroll's tenure at Seattle:

    First season: 7-9

    Second season 7-9

    Third season: 11-5 (Went to NFC Championship)

    Fourth season: 13-3 (Super Bowl win)

    Fifth season: 12-4 (super bowl loss)

    If we give this regime time, I think we'll emulate similar success

    @adoug319 said:

    Pete Carroll's tenure at Seattle:

    First season: 7-9

    Second season 7-9

    Third season: 11-5 (Went to NFC Championship)

    Fourth season: 13-3 (Super Bowl win)

    Fifth season: 12-4 (super bowl loss)

    If we give this regime time, I think we'll emulate similar success

    My hope with new coach Pettine this season was that we could go 8-8. We came close to that. We have a tougher schedule next year but I hope to see more improvements and at least 8-8 and maybe better. In our third year I would like to think we are in the playoffs. Also hoping we have a solid foundation where we can be one of the better teams in the league that does not go years and years without making the playoffs but able to reload and get right back in it. That's my hope. Some things will have to fall in place as this being Defilippo's first time as OC and we don't know how he will do but I like the unity I see with the coaches and that unity means a lot too. I don't think the Browns have been on any better footing than they are right now since coming back in 99.

  • I like Connor, but after watching him play 4qtrs in the NFL, it was pretty obvious that he lacks the arm strength to play the position as a starter...... He has the toughness and heart though, I'll give the kid that.

    @d-bone said:

    I like Connor, but after watching him play 4qtrs in the NFL, it was pretty obvious that he lacks the arm strength to play the position as a starter...... He has the toughness and heart though, I'll give the kid that.

    Ditto... plus straight speed is not the comparison to make. Agility and acceleration are key.

    Shaw: - 20 Yrd Shuttle: 4.33 3-Cone Drill: 7.07 10 Yrd Dash: 1.64

    Wilson: 20 Yrd Shuttle: 4.09 3-Cone Drill: 6.97 10 Yrd Dash: 1.55

    and just for grins...

    Johnny: 20 Yrd Shuttle: 4.03 3-Cone Drill: 6.75 10 Yrd Dash: 1.63

    Points made on Connor's dedication/ professionalism are indisputable... as, IMO, is the case for the team having been on the rise. Whether that rise can be sustained given the coaching changes and other "events" is TBD, but I like our odds.

    I'll only add that the OP deserved better than the first response. Disagree if you like, but to disparage a one-off is not necessary.

    It seems clear form recent posts that Ghoulie is suffering a relapse.

  • C'Mon guys, don't pick on the kid! It could happen. Hey while we're on the subject where do you fellas think I should take my date Paula Abdul this weekend after I win the 300 million dollar lottery?

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    C'Mon guys, don't pick on the kid! It could happen. Hey while we're on the subject where do you fellas think I should take my date Paula Abdul this weekend after I win the 300 million dollar lottery?

    WSS

    Really? Paula Abdul? She is your dream date?

  • @westside-steve said:

    C'Mon guys, don't pick on the kid! It could happen. Hey while we're on the subject where do you fellas think I should take my date Paula Abdul this weekend after I win the 300 million dollar lottery?

    WSS

    In your own fantasy you choose Paula Abdul?!

    whats your dream car, dodge neon with an aftermarket spoiler?

    @roycerolls said:

    In your own fantasy you choose Paula Abdul?!

    whats your dream car, dodge neon with an aftermarket spoiler?

    Its a Subaru Forrester.

  • @roycerolls said:

    In your own fantasy you choose Paula Abdul?!

    whats your dream car, dodge neon with an aftermarket spoiler?

    Its a Subaru Forrester.

    @the-gipper said:

    Its a Subaru Forrester.

    2015 Outback Premium.

    But I still can't think of anyone cuter than Paula...

    WSS

  • @westside-steve said:

    C'Mon guys, don't pick on the kid! It could happen. Hey while we're on the subject where do you fellas think I should take my date Paula Abdul this weekend after I win the 300 million dollar lottery?

    WSS

    Really? Paula Abdul? She is your dream date?

    @the-gipper said:

    Really? Paula Abdul? She is your dream date?

    Brushing Leslie Gore aside, Brother Steve?

    I bet she has a lot of Cougar in her still.

  • @the-gipper said:

    Really? Paula Abdul? She is your dream date?

    Brushing Leslie Gore aside, Brother Steve?

    I bet she has a lot of Cougar in her still.

    @chicopee-john said:

    Brushing Leslie Gore aside, Brother Steve?

    I bet she has a lot of Cougar in her still.

    Well that's true but she was born in 1946 and there is that other thing...

    (and I don't think I could live with Barbara Striesand politics)

    😉

    WSS

  • @chicopee-john said:

    Brushing Leslie Gore aside, Brother Steve?

    I bet she has a lot of Cougar in her still.

    Well that's true but she was born in 1946 and there is that other thing...

    (and I don't think I could live with Barbara Striesand politics)

    😉

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    Well that's true but she was born in 1946 and there is that other thing...

    (and I don't think I could live with Barbara Striesand politics)

    😉

    WSS

    I just read on Wikipedia that she has a ................................partner.

    Hey, the current Mayor of NYC married what once was a Lesbian Feminist and must have given her The Cure.

    PS Sorry about Leslie. You can cry if you want to.

  • Of course, and now we're getting into different territory, de Blasio himself is a feminist lesbian.

    😮

    WSS

  • VesnaKociper said:

    Dumbest fucking post I ever read. Sorry man, but you need to get a girlfriend, or a job, or take up jacking off 20 times a day. Wow, Shaw has 2 inches on Wilson? Why not get Pao Gasol to play quarterback? That bastard has 14 inches on Wilson.

    Dude, seriously, this is all fantasy shit, "we are a team on the rise"? Were you watching Brazillian Fart videos the last 6 games? On the rise? Please, enlighten me as to what measurable categories that Browns were on the rise in? Please, try to make up more shit fast, because I am a lot closer to the grave than I am the cradle, and i would like to hear this crock of horseshit before my ashes get scattered all over Katy Perry.

    The Browns WERE a rising team when they were 6-3, but the 1 - 6 team that finished? Not on the rise of anything other than shit-stink.

    Connor Shaw isn't going to ever be a starter in Cleveland, let alone anywhere else in the NFL. If the Browns don't want Hoyer, which is by far their best choice at QB, then get rid of the entire QB crew and start from scratch. Shaw is shit. Nothing more.

    Coming from the guy who said he wouldn't watch the super bowl, then posts a thread about his thoughts on the super bowl.

    Pete Carroll's tenure at Seattle:

    First season: 7-9

    Second season 7-9

    Third season: 11-5 (Went to NFC Championship)

    Fourth season: 13-3 (Super Bowl win)

    Fifth season: 12-4 (super bowl loss)

    If we give this regime time, I think we'll emulate similar success

    @adoug319 said:

    Coming from the guy who said he wouldn't watch the super bowl, then posts a thread about his thoughts on the super bowl.

    Pete Carroll's tenure at Seattle:

    First season: 7-9

    Second season 7-9

    Third season: 11-5 (Went to NFC Championship)

    Fourth season: 13-3 (Super Bowl win)

    Fifth season: 12-4 (super bowl loss)

    If we give this regime time, I think we'll emulate similar success

    Keep in mind Pete Carroll is on his 3rd NFL head coaching stint, so he's got quite a jump on Mike Pettine.

    But as Brown's fans, we can always hope.

  • @westside-steve said:

    Well that's true but she was born in 1946 and there is that other thing...

    (and I don't think I could live with Barbara Striesand politics)

    😉

    WSS

    I just read on Wikipedia that she has a ................................partner.

    Hey, the current Mayor of NYC married what once was a Lesbian Feminist and must have given her The Cure.

    PS Sorry about Leslie. You can cry if you want to.

    @chicopee-john said:

    I just read on Wikipedia that she has a ................................partner.

    .

    And you guys know what an important part of a relationship euchre is to me.

    WSS

  • I like Connor, but after watching him play 4qtrs in the NFL, it was pretty obvious that he lacks the arm strength to play the position as a starter...... He has the toughness and heart though, I'll give the kid that.

    @d-bone said:

    I like Connor, but after watching him play 4qtrs in the NFL, it was pretty obvious that he lacks the arm strength to play the position as a starter...... He has the toughness and heart though, I'll give the kid that.

    Didn't take great arm strength to beat Seattle. Most the passes I saw were dink and dunk.

  • @d-bone said:

    I like Connor, but after watching him play 4qtrs in the NFL, it was pretty obvious that he lacks the arm strength to play the position as a starter...... He has the toughness and heart though, I'll give the kid that.

    Ditto... plus straight speed is not the comparison to make. Agility and acceleration are key.

    Shaw: - 20 Yrd Shuttle: 4.33 3-Cone Drill: 7.07 10 Yrd Dash: 1.64

    Wilson: 20 Yrd Shuttle: 4.09 3-Cone Drill: 6.97 10 Yrd Dash: 1.55

    and just for grins...

    Johnny: 20 Yrd Shuttle: 4.03 3-Cone Drill: 6.75 10 Yrd Dash: 1.63

    Points made on Connor's dedication/ professionalism are indisputable... as, IMO, is the case for the team having been on the rise. Whether that rise can be sustained given the coaching changes and other "events" is TBD, but I like our odds.

    I'll only add that the OP deserved better than the first response. Disagree if you like, but to disparage a one-off is not necessary.

    It seems clear form recent posts that Ghoulie is suffering a relapse.

    @tour2ma said:

    Ditto... plus straight speed is not the comparison to make. Agility and acceleration are key.

    Shaw: - 20 Yrd Shuttle: 4.33 3-Cone Drill: 7.07 10 Yrd Dash: 1.64

    Wilson: 20 Yrd Shuttle: 4.09 3-Cone Drill: 6.97 10 Yrd Dash: 1.55

    and just for grins...

    Johnny: 20 Yrd Shuttle: 4.03 3-Cone Drill: 6.75 10 Yrd Dash: 1.63

    Points made on Connor's dedication/ professionalism are indisputable... as, IMO, is the case for the team having been on the rise. Whether that rise can be sustained given the coaching changes and other "events" is TBD, but I like our odds.

    I'll only add that the OP deserved better than the first response. Disagree if you like, but to disparage a one-off is not necessary.

    It seems clear form recent posts that Ghoulie is suffering a relapse.

    Yeah like I said, If Manziel had his athleticism with Shaw's mental game, we'd have a winner.. Unfortunately that won't happen so...