Why I believe Connor Shaw will be our Russell Wilson
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I like Connor, but after watching him play 4qtrs in the NFL, it was pretty obvious that he lacks the arm strength to play the position as a starter...... He has the toughness and heart though, I'll give the kid that.
I like Connor, but after watching him play 4qtrs in the NFL, it was pretty obvious that he lacks the arm strength to play the position as a starter...... He has the toughness and heart though, I'll give the kid that.
Ditto... plus straight speed is not the comparison to make. Agility and acceleration are key.
Shaw: - 20 Yrd Shuttle: 4.33 3-Cone Drill: 7.07 10 Yrd Dash: 1.64
Wilson: 20 Yrd Shuttle: 4.09 3-Cone Drill: 6.97 10 Yrd Dash: 1.55
and just for grins...
Johnny: 20 Yrd Shuttle: 4.03 3-Cone Drill: 6.75 10 Yrd Dash: 1.63
Points made on Connor's dedication/ professionalism are indisputable... as, IMO, is the case for the team having been on the rise. Whether that rise can be sustained given the coaching changes and other "events" is TBD, but I like our odds.
I'll only add that the OP deserved better than the first response. Disagree if you like, but to disparage a one-off is not necessary.
It seems clear form recent posts that Ghoulie is suffering a relapse.
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C'Mon guys, don't pick on the kid! It could happen. Hey while we're on the subject where do you fellas think I should take my date Paula Abdul this weekend after I win the 300 million dollar lottery?
WSS
C'Mon guys, don't pick on the kid! It could happen. Hey while we're on the subject where do you fellas think I should take my date Paula Abdul this weekend after I win the 300 million dollar lottery?
WSS
Really? Paula Abdul? She is your dream date?
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C'Mon guys, don't pick on the kid! It could happen. Hey while we're on the subject where do you fellas think I should take my date Paula Abdul this weekend after I win the 300 million dollar lottery?
WSS
In your own fantasy you choose Paula Abdul?!
whats your dream car, dodge neon with an aftermarket spoiler?
In your own fantasy you choose Paula Abdul?!
whats your dream car, dodge neon with an aftermarket spoiler?
Its a Subaru Forrester.
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In your own fantasy you choose Paula Abdul?!
whats your dream car, dodge neon with an aftermarket spoiler?
Its a Subaru Forrester.
2015 Outback Premium.Its a Subaru Forrester.
But I still can't think of anyone cuter than Paula...
WSS
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C'Mon guys, don't pick on the kid! It could happen. Hey while we're on the subject where do you fellas think I should take my date Paula Abdul this weekend after I win the 300 million dollar lottery?
WSS
Really? Paula Abdul? She is your dream date?
Really? Paula Abdul? She is your dream date?
Brushing Leslie Gore aside, Brother Steve?
I bet she has a lot of Cougar in her still.
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Really? Paula Abdul? She is your dream date?
Brushing Leslie Gore aside, Brother Steve?
I bet she has a lot of Cougar in her still.
Brushing Leslie Gore aside, Brother Steve?
I bet she has a lot of Cougar in her still.
Well that's true but she was born in 1946 and there is that other thing...
(and I don't think I could live with Barbara Striesand politics)

WSS
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Brushing Leslie Gore aside, Brother Steve?
I bet she has a lot of Cougar in her still.
Well that's true but she was born in 1946 and there is that other thing...
(and I don't think I could live with Barbara Striesand politics)

WSS
Well that's true but she was born in 1946 and there is that other thing...
(and I don't think I could live with Barbara Striesand politics)

WSS
I just read on Wikipedia that she has a ................................partner.
Hey, the current Mayor of NYC married what once was a Lesbian Feminist and must have given her The Cure.
PS Sorry about Leslie. You can cry if you want to.
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Of course, and now we're getting into different territory, de Blasio himself is a feminist lesbian.

WSS
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VesnaKociper said:
Dumbest fucking post I ever read. Sorry man, but you need to get a girlfriend, or a job, or take up jacking off 20 times a day. Wow, Shaw has 2 inches on Wilson? Why not get Pao Gasol to play quarterback? That bastard has 14 inches on Wilson.
Dude, seriously, this is all fantasy shit, "we are a team on the rise"? Were you watching Brazillian Fart videos the last 6 games? On the rise? Please, enlighten me as to what measurable categories that Browns were on the rise in? Please, try to make up more shit fast, because I am a lot closer to the grave than I am the cradle, and i would like to hear this crock of horseshit before my ashes get scattered all over Katy Perry.
The Browns WERE a rising team when they were 6-3, but the 1 - 6 team that finished? Not on the rise of anything other than shit-stink.
Connor Shaw isn't going to ever be a starter in Cleveland, let alone anywhere else in the NFL. If the Browns don't want Hoyer, which is by far their best choice at QB, then get rid of the entire QB crew and start from scratch. Shaw is shit. Nothing more.
Coming from the guy who said he wouldn't watch the super bowl, then posts a thread about his thoughts on the super bowl.
Pete Carroll's tenure at Seattle:
First season: 7-9
Second season 7-9
Third season: 11-5 (Went to NFC Championship)
Fourth season: 13-3 (Super Bowl win)
Fifth season: 12-4 (super bowl loss)
If we give this regime time, I think we'll emulate similar success
Coming from the guy who said he wouldn't watch the super bowl, then posts a thread about his thoughts on the super bowl.
Pete Carroll's tenure at Seattle:
First season: 7-9
Second season 7-9
Third season: 11-5 (Went to NFC Championship)
Fourth season: 13-3 (Super Bowl win)
Fifth season: 12-4 (super bowl loss)
If we give this regime time, I think we'll emulate similar success
Keep in mind Pete Carroll is on his 3rd NFL head coaching stint, so he's got quite a jump on Mike Pettine.
But as Brown's fans, we can always hope.
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Well that's true but she was born in 1946 and there is that other thing...
(and I don't think I could live with Barbara Striesand politics)

WSS
I just read on Wikipedia that she has a ................................partner.
Hey, the current Mayor of NYC married what once was a Lesbian Feminist and must have given her The Cure.
PS Sorry about Leslie. You can cry if you want to.
I just read on Wikipedia that she has a ................................partner.
.
And you guys know what an important part of a relationship euchre is to me.
WSS
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I like Connor, but after watching him play 4qtrs in the NFL, it was pretty obvious that he lacks the arm strength to play the position as a starter...... He has the toughness and heart though, I'll give the kid that.
I like Connor, but after watching him play 4qtrs in the NFL, it was pretty obvious that he lacks the arm strength to play the position as a starter...... He has the toughness and heart though, I'll give the kid that.
Didn't take great arm strength to beat Seattle. Most the passes I saw were dink and dunk.
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I like Connor, but after watching him play 4qtrs in the NFL, it was pretty obvious that he lacks the arm strength to play the position as a starter...... He has the toughness and heart though, I'll give the kid that.
Ditto... plus straight speed is not the comparison to make. Agility and acceleration are key.
Shaw: - 20 Yrd Shuttle: 4.33 3-Cone Drill: 7.07 10 Yrd Dash: 1.64
Wilson: 20 Yrd Shuttle: 4.09 3-Cone Drill: 6.97 10 Yrd Dash: 1.55
and just for grins...
Johnny: 20 Yrd Shuttle: 4.03 3-Cone Drill: 6.75 10 Yrd Dash: 1.63
Points made on Connor's dedication/ professionalism are indisputable... as, IMO, is the case for the team having been on the rise. Whether that rise can be sustained given the coaching changes and other "events" is TBD, but I like our odds.
I'll only add that the OP deserved better than the first response. Disagree if you like, but to disparage a one-off is not necessary.
It seems clear form recent posts that Ghoulie is suffering a relapse.
Ditto... plus straight speed is not the comparison to make. Agility and acceleration are key.
Shaw: - 20 Yrd Shuttle: 4.33 3-Cone Drill: 7.07 10 Yrd Dash: 1.64
Wilson: 20 Yrd Shuttle: 4.09 3-Cone Drill: 6.97 10 Yrd Dash: 1.55
and just for grins...
Johnny: 20 Yrd Shuttle: 4.03 3-Cone Drill: 6.75 10 Yrd Dash: 1.63
Points made on Connor's dedication/ professionalism are indisputable... as, IMO, is the case for the team having been on the rise. Whether that rise can be sustained given the coaching changes and other "events" is TBD, but I like our odds.
I'll only add that the OP deserved better than the first response. Disagree if you like, but to disparage a one-off is not necessary.
It seems clear form recent posts that Ghoulie is suffering a relapse.
Yeah like I said, If Manziel had his athleticism with Shaw's mental game, we'd have a winner.. Unfortunately that won't happen so...
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I like Connor, but after watching him play 4qtrs in the NFL, it was pretty obvious that he lacks the arm strength to play the position as a starter...... He has the toughness and heart though, I'll give the kid that.
Didn't take great arm strength to beat Seattle. Most the passes I saw were dink and dunk.
Didn't take great arm strength to beat Seattle. Most the passes I saw were dink and dunk.
While this is true, there are very, very few teams that have trio of 6'2 CB's that are comfortable leaving them on an island in press inviting you to attempt to throw over the top.
The horizontal passing game is very critical in beating Seattle. However, there are teams, such as the Browns, that have corners whom can take away those quick throws and slants with their own lateral burst. This is when its necessary to have a QB able to put the ball over the top.
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VesnaKociper said:
Wow.... really? Hey Doctor Franken-fuck, while you are creating fantasy bullshit, how about fixing it so Westside Steve has no facial hair, grows a nice set of tits and a pussy? That way, because we are buds, I may be able to get laid once before I die.
What the fuck kind of a post is this? First you talk about your vision of Shaw metamorphosing from a puny, shit QB into Russel WIlson, and then, I suppse after you realized how idiotic that notion is, you flipped into pining for Manziel to become your dream girl.
Dude, you are like the loser of a television game show who has to pick a date with either Whoopie Goldberg or Oprah Winfrey, and want to talk to the girl at the make up counter first to see if she can help.
Conner Shaw is shit. What part of that doens't penetrate your bone head?
God bless you
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Shaw is a gamer. Decent backup at best
We need a top QB and we're a good team.
The reason Seattle is OK with 100% undrafteds at WR is because of the OL, QB, and RB. We have 2 of those 3.
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Shaw is a gamer. Decent backup at best
We need a top QB and we're a good team.
The reason Seattle is OK with 100% undrafteds at WR is because of the OL, QB, and RB. We have 2 of those 3.
Shaw is a gamer. Decent backup at best
We need a top QB and we're a good team.
The reason Seattle is OK with 100% undrafteds at WR is because of the OL, QB, and RB. We have 2 of those 3.
They also have depth. We can't afford to lose a starter on OL or DL.
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Both OL's had 2,3 starters out nearly every game the second half of the year. The depth of Seattle and NE is pretty impressive actually, especially when you remember NE trading away Mankins to TB for.. a 3rd string TE, a bag of balls, and a Juggs machine.
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During the draft process, Wilson was highly touted as a good QB who had all the skills, but lacked the height/size to succeed in the NFL. He was projected as a mid-round QB based on good character and ability and was taken in the 3rd round...
Shaw was undrafted...
I see no comparison.
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During the draft process, Wilson was highly touted as a good QB who had all the skills, but lacked the height/size to succeed in the NFL. He was projected as a mid-round QB based on good character and ability and was taken in the 3rd round...
Shaw was undrafted...
I see no comparison.
During the draft process, Wilson was highly touted as a good QB who had all the skills, but lacked the height/size to succeed in the NFL. He was projected as a mid-round QB based on good character and ability and was taken in the 3rd round...
Shaw was undrafted...
I see no comparison.
If Russell Wilson was 6'2 there was a good chance he was drafted top 5 in 2012. Height was only downfall
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