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GOP Bill would require photo ID to use Food Stamps

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  • This ID system, like Chris said, can be abused politically to keep certain people from voting. The right was most guilty of this last election. This was said to prevent voter fraud, which really isn't a big issue.

    I also think its cynical (I'm fitting in!) to say every person that is on food stamps is lazy and stupid. Shit happens. You can't paint with that broad of a brush.

  • This ID system, like Chris said, can be abused politically to keep certain people from voting. The right was most guilty of this last election. This was said to prevent voter fraud, which really isn't a big issue.

    I also think its cynical (I'm fitting in!) to say every person that is on food stamps is lazy and stupid. Shit happens. You can't paint with that broad of a brush.

    @mld-woody said:

    This ID system, like Chris said, can be abused politically to keep certain people from voting. The right was most guilty of this last election. This was said to prevent voter fraud, which really isn't a big issue.

    I also think its cynical (I'm fitting in!) to say every person that is on food stamps is lazy and stupid. Shit happens. You can't paint with that broad of a brush.

    Ha. Here's a dumbass woody reply for you. Are you ready? Here goes!

    "where did I use the word every?"

    Fun ain't it?

    😁

    WSS

  • If you want to be forcing people to have an ID(whether state or Fed) to use welfare, then it should be handed out when they sign up(or free of charge to get from a close title bureau).

    If you want to tie it to voting then it should be 100% free(there should be no cost to vote).

    The problem with most voting ID laws is they wait till 4 months before a major election to try and get these new rules out there and passed instead of passing them right after an election and giving people plenty of time to get the new ID's.

  • @mld-woody said:

    This ID system, like Chris said, can be abused politically to keep certain people from voting. The right was most guilty of this last election. This was said to prevent voter fraud, which really isn't a big issue.

    I also think its cynical (I'm fitting in!) to say every person that is on food stamps is lazy and stupid. Shit happens. You can't paint with that broad of a brush.

    Ha. Here's a dumbass woody reply for you. Are you ready? Here goes!

    "where did I use the word every?"

    Fun ain't it?

    😁

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    Ha. Here's a dumbass woody reply for you. Are you ready? Here goes!

    "where did I use the word every?"

    Fun ain't it?

    😁

    WSS

    Ugh... Set up to get trolled again.

    It was strongly implied. To a level higher than I believe is accurate. That's all I'm saying here

  • Still if you can't get your shit together to grab a free identification card you probably can't get your shit together to go vote.

    It aint rocket science. And you need identification for a whole lot less meaningful activities that voting.

    WSS

  • PS and why should it bother the left so badly? Maybe because people with cognitive skills barely above housepets are probably going to vote for...

    Hmmmmm I wonder.

    WSS

  • PS and why should it bother the left so badly? Maybe because people with cognitive skills barely above housepets are probably going to vote for...

    Hmmmmm I wonder.

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    PS and why should it bother the left so badly? Maybe because people with cognitive skills barely above housepets are probably going to vote for...

    Hmmmmm I wonder.

    WSS

    That's why it bothers the right, and why it's open to abuse, which is what bothers the left. It's about allowing everyone to vote, from ultra-conservative Arizona pastors wanting to stone faggots, to single mothers of seven who have never worked a day in their lives and live off the government.

  • so it only bothers you if crazy conservatives are allowed to vote? Or what exactly? Would it bother you if those crazed queer stoning masses were too stupid to find identification and therefore unable to vote?

    also I'm guessing if you were smart enough to sign up for welfare you were smart enough to grab an ID card right?

    WSS

  • so it only bothers you if crazy conservatives are allowed to vote? Or what exactly? Would it bother you if those crazed queer stoning masses were too stupid to find identification and therefore unable to vote?

    also I'm guessing if you were smart enough to sign up for welfare you were smart enough to grab an ID card right?

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    so it only bothers you if crazy conservatives are allowed to vote? Or what exactly? Would it bother you if those crazed queer stoning masses were too stupid to find identification and therefore unable to vote?

    also I'm guessing if you were smart enough to sign up for welfare you were smart enough to grab an ID card right?

    WSS

    I'm not sure how you weren't able to understand "It's about allowing everyone to vote" but ok. It doesn't bother me that crazy conservatives are allowed to vote because they are people, so they are allowed to vote (with a few exceptions). Their political ideologies might bother me, but their right to vote is inalienable.

    I have a driving license, so no issue when signing up for welfare. You are required to have your national insurance number (like social security - this is issued to everyone at age 16); and some ID. Apparently, this can be passport, driving license, credit card, debit card, medical card, age ID card, work ID card, club membership card.

    So, plenty of ways to get ID, not an issue for me.

  • @diehardbrownsfan said:

    It's a HARDSHIP, Die, don't you get it?

    Why don't some states even make it necessary to show some form of ID before being allowed in the voting booth?

    I suspect things such as Entitlements equaling votes has to get factored in somewhere.

  • @westside-steve said:

    excellent idea. As I've said before, however, I think every American should have positive identification backed up by DNA and retinal scan, all issued by the federal government. At least that way no one can cry that they are too poor do have an identification card...

    WSS

    You shouldn't be able to force people to present ID for things like voting and food stamps etc...*unless* the ID is issued centrally for free. I'm renewing my passport currently, it costs about £100. Ridiculous, but I'll pay it anyway because I travel - if I'm on food stamps, maybe it's not something I consider a necessity.

    @gftchris said:

    You shouldn't be able to force people to present ID for things like voting and food stamps etc...*unless* the ID is issued centrally for free. I'm renewing my passport currently, it costs about £100. Ridiculous, but I'll pay it anyway because I travel - if I'm on food stamps, maybe it's not something I consider a necessity.

    A passport or food to eat????

  • You can't get a bank account, buy cigarettes/booze, enter a bar, etc. without a photo ID. You can't tell me that people go without an ID for any of those things but still have proper documentation to even receive government assistance.

    You should have to present ID to vote and to use the food stamp card. Voter fraud is a big issue in the coal field counties in WV every election.

  • The ultra left wing liberals amaze me with their stupidity.

  • Well, I'm still for a weighted voting system. Require an exam both you vote. Topics like include US History, World History, current events, how our govt works, some math and science, etc. The higher you score the more your vote counts.

    Make study material and practice exams free for the public. Put them in public libraries and places like that.

    Liberal enough for ya?

  • Woody, your suggestion would make every politician cringe.

  • Woody, your suggestion would make every politician cringe.

    @logicisforsquares said:

    Woody, your suggestion would make every politician cringe.

    That makes me think it's a good suggestion lol.

  • Well, I'm still for a weighted voting system. Require an exam both you vote. Topics like include US History, World History, current events, how our govt works, some math and science, etc. The higher you score the more your vote counts.

    Make study material and practice exams free for the public. Put them in public libraries and places like that.

    Liberal enough for ya?

    @mld-woody said:

    Well, I'm still for a weighted voting system. Require an exam both you vote. Topics like include US History, World History, current events, how our govt works, some math and science, etc. The higher you score the more your vote counts.

    Make study material and practice exams free for the public. Put them in public libraries and places like that.

    Liberal enough for ya?

    I am no Constitutional Lawyer but I doubt this passes any sniff test.

    Personally, I would vote against it.

  • Oh its probably not constitutional at all. Plus it would require a lot of groundwork to make it fair and viable.

  • I'd be ok with Willard M. Romney's 47% not being able to vote in Federal Elections.

  • @mld-woody said:

    Well, I'm still for a weighted voting system. Require an exam both you vote. Topics like include US History, World History, current events, how our govt works, some math and science, etc. The higher you score the more your vote counts.

    Make study material and practice exams free for the public. Put them in public libraries and places like that.

    Liberal enough for ya?

    I am no Constitutional Lawyer but I doubt this passes any sniff test.

    Personally, I would vote against it.

    @chicopee-john said:

    I am no Constitutional Lawyer but I doubt this passes any sniff test.

    Personally, I would vote against it.

    Do you mean the Contstitution as originally not totally ratified, using original intent?

    Or what the Constitution "says" after 227 years of SCOTUS interpretations?