Grade the following WR scenario
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Heading into pre-season, what grade would you give the following (realistic) scenario for the Brown WR group (no order in the list provided):
Benjamin
Gabriel
Hawkins
Miles Austin
Cecil Shorts
Ted Gin Jr.
Brian Hartline
Devonte Parker ( or your realistic draft choice of preference)
I think it's doable, affordable, serviceable and while not intimidating, it's a quality group of players.
Not a bad looking group.....tho not sure well actually carry 8 wr's......personally, Id pass on the "new guys", except maybe tap Shorts to replace Benji.....then Id wish for something more like a starter FA and a 3rd or 4th round draft pick like smith/Dorestt/Perriman/Hardy/etc...
Not a bad looking group.....tho not sure well actually carry 8 wr's......personally, Id pass on the "new guys", except maybe tap Shorts to replace Benji.....then Id wish for something more like a starter FA and a 3rd or 4th round draft pick like smith/Dorestt/Perriman/Hardy/etc...
That's why I said "heading into pre-season"
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I don't know squat compared to many here & especially the experts, but I DO hope we bring some height in to WR.
I will say that I want NOTHING to do with Green-Beckham.
Mike
I don't know squat compared to many here & especially the experts, but I DO hope we bring some height in to WR.
I will say that I want NOTHING to do with Green-Beckham.
Mike
^this!!
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Hartline and Perriman.
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No one on that list is getting significant time on any playoff team.
Did you see the WRs on Sea and NE? Not exactly all-pro material...
Did you see the WRs on Sea and NE? Not exactly all-pro material...
Hawkins had the best numbers on the team and they were worse than all but Kearse who is at least a tall WR that requires coverage.
Benjamin - too weak
Gabriel - too small
Hawkins - good slot/possession WR
Miles Austin - old and slow
Cecil Shorts - injury prone/possession WR
Ted Ginn Jr. - never really been effective for an entire system
Brian Hartline - possession WR no real threat
At best all these guys are 3rd down/possession WRs not one has the ability to stretch the field
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Demarius Thomas
Dez Bryant
Randall Cobb
Cecil Shorts
Brian Hartline
Ted Ginn Jr.
Not saying that teams are going to let the first group go but they are the type of WR the Browns need.
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Demarius Thomas
Dez Bryant
Randall Cobb
Cecil Shorts
Brian Hartline
Ted Ginn Jr.
Not saying that teams are going to let the first group go but they are the type of WR the Browns need.
Demarius Thomas
Dez Bryant
Randall Cobb
Cecil Shorts
Brian Hartline
Ted Ginn Jr.
Not saying that teams are going to let the first group go but they are the type of WR the Browns need.
Fantasy - yes, Realistic? - I don't think so!
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OSU homerism aside, I am not sure why people want Tedd Ginn....
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Demarius Thomas
Dez Bryant
Randall Cobb
Cecil Shorts
Brian Hartline
Ted Ginn Jr.
Not saying that teams are going to let the first group go but they are the type of WR the Browns need.
Fantasy - yes, Realistic? - I don't think so!
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Did you see the WRs on Sea and NE? Not exactly all-pro material...
Hawkins had the best numbers on the team and they were worse than all but Kearse who is at least a tall WR that requires coverage.
Benjamin - too weak
Gabriel - too small
Hawkins - good slot/possession WR
Miles Austin - old and slow
Cecil Shorts - injury prone/possession WR
Ted Ginn Jr. - never really been effective for an entire system
Brian Hartline - possession WR no real threat
At best all these guys are 3rd down/possession WRs not one has the ability to stretch the field
Hawkins had the best numbers on the team and they were worse than all but Kearse who is at least a tall WR that requires coverage.
Benjamin - too weak
Gabriel - too small
Hawkins - good slot/possession WR
Miles Austin - old and slow
Cecil Shorts - injury prone/possession WR
Ted Ginn Jr. - never really been effective for an entire system
Brian Hartline - possession WR no real threat
At best all these guys are 3rd down/possession WRs not one has the ability to stretch the field
We saw Gabriel and Benjamin go deep a couple of times last year. I see Hawkins and Gabriel in the slot, Shorts and Hartline as starters. Ginni and Benjamin in back-up & return roles, and Austin as 3rd down/possession. Austin has another year left in him.
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Hawkins had the best numbers on the team and they were worse than all but Kearse who is at least a tall WR that requires coverage.
Benjamin - too weak
Gabriel - too small
Hawkins - good slot/possession WR
Miles Austin - old and slow
Cecil Shorts - injury prone/possession WR
Ted Ginn Jr. - never really been effective for an entire system
Brian Hartline - possession WR no real threat
At best all these guys are 3rd down/possession WRs not one has the ability to stretch the field
We saw Gabriel and Benjamin go deep a couple of times last year. I see Hawkins and Gabriel in the slot, Shorts and Hartline as starters. Ginni and Benjamin in back-up & return roles, and Austin as 3rd down/possession. Austin has another year left in him.
We saw Gabriel and Benjamin go deep a couple of times last year. I see Hawkins and Gabriel in the slot, Shorts and Hartline as starters. Ginni and Benjamin in back-up & return roles, and Austin as 3rd down/possession. Austin has another year left in him.
A couple of times, yes. Most teams have at least one guy who can move the needle on any given down, that guy was Josh Gordon for the Browns. They need to try to replace that threat. You can do it in the draft by drafting a WR at 12 or 19. The other guys are what they are.
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OSU homerism aside, I am not sure why people want Tedd Ginn....
He would improve the return game and add some injury insurance/depth to the team at WR. Yes, there is OSU homerism but I think the Browns need to leverage that to get some WR bodies in here.
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OSU homerism aside, I am not sure why people want Tedd Ginn....
He would improve the return game and add some injury insurance/depth to the team at WR. Yes, there is OSU homerism but I think the Browns need to leverage that to get some WR bodies in here.
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We saw Gabriel and Benjamin go deep a couple of times last year. I see Hawkins and Gabriel in the slot, Shorts and Hartline as starters. Ginni and Benjamin in back-up & return roles, and Austin as 3rd down/possession. Austin has another year left in him.
A couple of times, yes. Most teams have at least one guy who can move the needle on any given down, that guy was Josh Gordon for the Browns. They need to try to replace that threat. You can do it in the draft by drafting a WR at 12 or 19. The other guys are what they are.
A couple of times, yes. Most teams have at least one guy who can move the needle on any given down, that guy was Josh Gordon for the Browns. They need to try to replace that threat. You can do it in the draft by drafting a WR at 12 or 19. The other guys are what they are.
I agree. That's why I put Devonte into the formula (or some other drafted player available at either 12 or 19). But if that's the group we end up with, I'll give a B rating and we can address it again in 2016.
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A couple of times, yes. Most teams have at least one guy who can move the needle on any given down, that guy was Josh Gordon for the Browns. They need to try to replace that threat. You can do it in the draft by drafting a WR at 12 or 19. The other guys are what they are.
I agree. That's why I put Devonte into the formula (or some other drafted player available at either 12 or 19). But if that's the group we end up with, I'll give a B rating and we can address it again in 2016.
I agree. That's why I put Devonte into the formula (or some other drafted player available at either 12 or 19). But if that's the group we end up with, I'll give a B rating and we can address it again in 2016.
I guess I don't see the need to bring in Hartline, Shorts or Ginn
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No use jumping too high when our first 3 are likely to be defensive guys. There should be several decent wr's to choose from still in rd 3.
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OSU homerism aside, I am not sure why people want Tedd Ginn....
He would improve the return game and add some injury insurance/depth to the team at WR. Yes, there is OSU homerism but I think the Browns need to leverage that to get some WR bodies in here.
He would improve the return game and add some injury insurance/depth to the team at WR. Yes, there is OSU homerism but I think the Browns need to leverage that to get some WR bodies in here.
Why do that with a 30 year old WR that hasn't been able to stick with any team? Why not bring in some youth and see if they develop?
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I guess I don't see the need to bring in Hartline, Shorts or Ginn
exactly.
we did ok<fine with our 'midget' WR corp last year. why sign some FAs when you know we're going to draft 1or 2?
besides as ball peen pointed out in another thread we can always put gilbert back there to return P/KOs. maybe he'll do good and that might give him some motivation to get off his ass. sometimes a little recognition can go a long way.
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I guess I don't see the need to bring in Hartline, Shorts or Ginn
exactly.
we did ok<fine with our 'midget' WR corp last year. why sign some FAs when you know we're going to draft 1or 2?
besides as ball peen pointed out in another thread we can always put gilbert back there to return P/KOs. maybe he'll do good and that might give him some motivation to get off his ass. sometimes a little recognition can go a long way.
exactly.
we did ok<fine with our 'midget' WR corp last year. why sign some FAs when you know we're going to draft 1or 2?
besides as ball peen pointed out in another thread we can always put gilbert back there to return P/KOs. maybe he'll do good and that might give him some motivation to get off his ass. sometimes a little recognition can go a long way.
If we don't sign any FA's, we're going to need at least two WR's in the draft. I think that's too risky. We have emptied the cupboards at that position and need quality starters and backups. I would be shocked if we don't sign at least 2 FA's and draft 1 or 2. I think the group I proposed is a way of giving us some talent at the position without breaking the bank.
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