Grade the following WR scenario
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Hartline and Perriman.
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No one on that list is getting significant time on any playoff team.
Did you see the WRs on Sea and NE? Not exactly all-pro material...
Did you see the WRs on Sea and NE? Not exactly all-pro material...
Hawkins had the best numbers on the team and they were worse than all but Kearse who is at least a tall WR that requires coverage.
Benjamin - too weak
Gabriel - too small
Hawkins - good slot/possession WR
Miles Austin - old and slow
Cecil Shorts - injury prone/possession WR
Ted Ginn Jr. - never really been effective for an entire system
Brian Hartline - possession WR no real threat
At best all these guys are 3rd down/possession WRs not one has the ability to stretch the field
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Demarius Thomas
Dez Bryant
Randall Cobb
Cecil Shorts
Brian Hartline
Ted Ginn Jr.
Not saying that teams are going to let the first group go but they are the type of WR the Browns need.
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Demarius Thomas
Dez Bryant
Randall Cobb
Cecil Shorts
Brian Hartline
Ted Ginn Jr.
Not saying that teams are going to let the first group go but they are the type of WR the Browns need.
Demarius Thomas
Dez Bryant
Randall Cobb
Cecil Shorts
Brian Hartline
Ted Ginn Jr.
Not saying that teams are going to let the first group go but they are the type of WR the Browns need.
Fantasy - yes, Realistic? - I don't think so!
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OSU homerism aside, I am not sure why people want Tedd Ginn....
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
Demarius Thomas
Dez Bryant
Randall Cobb
Cecil Shorts
Brian Hartline
Ted Ginn Jr.
Not saying that teams are going to let the first group go but they are the type of WR the Browns need.
Fantasy - yes, Realistic? - I don't think so!
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Did you see the WRs on Sea and NE? Not exactly all-pro material...
Hawkins had the best numbers on the team and they were worse than all but Kearse who is at least a tall WR that requires coverage.
Benjamin - too weak
Gabriel - too small
Hawkins - good slot/possession WR
Miles Austin - old and slow
Cecil Shorts - injury prone/possession WR
Ted Ginn Jr. - never really been effective for an entire system
Brian Hartline - possession WR no real threat
At best all these guys are 3rd down/possession WRs not one has the ability to stretch the field
Hawkins had the best numbers on the team and they were worse than all but Kearse who is at least a tall WR that requires coverage.
Benjamin - too weak
Gabriel - too small
Hawkins - good slot/possession WR
Miles Austin - old and slow
Cecil Shorts - injury prone/possession WR
Ted Ginn Jr. - never really been effective for an entire system
Brian Hartline - possession WR no real threat
At best all these guys are 3rd down/possession WRs not one has the ability to stretch the field
We saw Gabriel and Benjamin go deep a couple of times last year. I see Hawkins and Gabriel in the slot, Shorts and Hartline as starters. Ginni and Benjamin in back-up & return roles, and Austin as 3rd down/possession. Austin has another year left in him.
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Hawkins had the best numbers on the team and they were worse than all but Kearse who is at least a tall WR that requires coverage.
Benjamin - too weak
Gabriel - too small
Hawkins - good slot/possession WR
Miles Austin - old and slow
Cecil Shorts - injury prone/possession WR
Ted Ginn Jr. - never really been effective for an entire system
Brian Hartline - possession WR no real threat
At best all these guys are 3rd down/possession WRs not one has the ability to stretch the field
We saw Gabriel and Benjamin go deep a couple of times last year. I see Hawkins and Gabriel in the slot, Shorts and Hartline as starters. Ginni and Benjamin in back-up & return roles, and Austin as 3rd down/possession. Austin has another year left in him.
We saw Gabriel and Benjamin go deep a couple of times last year. I see Hawkins and Gabriel in the slot, Shorts and Hartline as starters. Ginni and Benjamin in back-up & return roles, and Austin as 3rd down/possession. Austin has another year left in him.
A couple of times, yes. Most teams have at least one guy who can move the needle on any given down, that guy was Josh Gordon for the Browns. They need to try to replace that threat. You can do it in the draft by drafting a WR at 12 or 19. The other guys are what they are.
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OSU homerism aside, I am not sure why people want Tedd Ginn....
He would improve the return game and add some injury insurance/depth to the team at WR. Yes, there is OSU homerism but I think the Browns need to leverage that to get some WR bodies in here.
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OSU homerism aside, I am not sure why people want Tedd Ginn....
He would improve the return game and add some injury insurance/depth to the team at WR. Yes, there is OSU homerism but I think the Browns need to leverage that to get some WR bodies in here.
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We saw Gabriel and Benjamin go deep a couple of times last year. I see Hawkins and Gabriel in the slot, Shorts and Hartline as starters. Ginni and Benjamin in back-up & return roles, and Austin as 3rd down/possession. Austin has another year left in him.
A couple of times, yes. Most teams have at least one guy who can move the needle on any given down, that guy was Josh Gordon for the Browns. They need to try to replace that threat. You can do it in the draft by drafting a WR at 12 or 19. The other guys are what they are.
A couple of times, yes. Most teams have at least one guy who can move the needle on any given down, that guy was Josh Gordon for the Browns. They need to try to replace that threat. You can do it in the draft by drafting a WR at 12 or 19. The other guys are what they are.
I agree. That's why I put Devonte into the formula (or some other drafted player available at either 12 or 19). But if that's the group we end up with, I'll give a B rating and we can address it again in 2016.
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A couple of times, yes. Most teams have at least one guy who can move the needle on any given down, that guy was Josh Gordon for the Browns. They need to try to replace that threat. You can do it in the draft by drafting a WR at 12 or 19. The other guys are what they are.
I agree. That's why I put Devonte into the formula (or some other drafted player available at either 12 or 19). But if that's the group we end up with, I'll give a B rating and we can address it again in 2016.
I agree. That's why I put Devonte into the formula (or some other drafted player available at either 12 or 19). But if that's the group we end up with, I'll give a B rating and we can address it again in 2016.
I guess I don't see the need to bring in Hartline, Shorts or Ginn
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No use jumping too high when our first 3 are likely to be defensive guys. There should be several decent wr's to choose from still in rd 3.
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OSU homerism aside, I am not sure why people want Tedd Ginn....
He would improve the return game and add some injury insurance/depth to the team at WR. Yes, there is OSU homerism but I think the Browns need to leverage that to get some WR bodies in here.
He would improve the return game and add some injury insurance/depth to the team at WR. Yes, there is OSU homerism but I think the Browns need to leverage that to get some WR bodies in here.
Why do that with a 30 year old WR that hasn't been able to stick with any team? Why not bring in some youth and see if they develop?
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I guess I don't see the need to bring in Hartline, Shorts or Ginn
exactly.
we did ok<fine with our 'midget' WR corp last year. why sign some FAs when you know we're going to draft 1or 2?
besides as ball peen pointed out in another thread we can always put gilbert back there to return P/KOs. maybe he'll do good and that might give him some motivation to get off his ass. sometimes a little recognition can go a long way.
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I guess I don't see the need to bring in Hartline, Shorts or Ginn
exactly.
we did ok<fine with our 'midget' WR corp last year. why sign some FAs when you know we're going to draft 1or 2?
besides as ball peen pointed out in another thread we can always put gilbert back there to return P/KOs. maybe he'll do good and that might give him some motivation to get off his ass. sometimes a little recognition can go a long way.
exactly.
we did ok<fine with our 'midget' WR corp last year. why sign some FAs when you know we're going to draft 1or 2?
besides as ball peen pointed out in another thread we can always put gilbert back there to return P/KOs. maybe he'll do good and that might give him some motivation to get off his ass. sometimes a little recognition can go a long way.
If we don't sign any FA's, we're going to need at least two WR's in the draft. I think that's too risky. We have emptied the cupboards at that position and need quality starters and backups. I would be shocked if we don't sign at least 2 FA's and draft 1 or 2. I think the group I proposed is a way of giving us some talent at the position without breaking the bank.
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Cecil Shorts is pretty good. If he wants to come home, I say let him. Always good to have guys that WANT to be in Cleveland
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OSU homerism aside, I am not sure why people want Tedd Ginn....
I agree. He has done nothing in his career to get me excited. I put Gilbert as the returner if he can't help us at corner.
I also think Benji and Gabriel can stretch a field as well as Teddy. The problem they have had is they haven't had a QB who could hit them on any regular basis. It does no good to stretch the field and gain a few steps if the QB is going to lob it up there and make the receiver wait for it to get to him. It doesn't take much of a wait before the defender is going to be back in the play.
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OSU homerism aside, I am not sure why people want Tedd Ginn....
I agree. He has done nothing in his career to get me excited. I put Gilbert as the returner if he can't help us at corner.
I also think Benji and Gabriel can stretch a field as well as Teddy. The problem they have had is they haven't had a QB who could hit them on any regular basis. It does no good to stretch the field and gain a few steps if the QB is going to lob it up there and make the receiver wait for it to get to him. It doesn't take much of a wait before the defender is going to be back in the play.
I agree. He has done nothing in his career to get me excited. I put Gilbert as the returner if he can't help us at corner.
I also think Benji and Gabriel can stretch a field as well as Teddy. The problem they have had is they haven't had a QB who could hit them on any regular basis. It does no good to stretch the field and gain a few steps if the QB is going to lob it up there and make the receiver wait for it to get to him. It doesn't take much of a wait before the defender is going to be back in the play.
Good point... I loved Hoyer but god there were times that Benji and Gabriel were open behind the defense and had to wait for his pass to get there when more arm would've let them stay ahead of the defense. Saw one first hand with a great angle at the Ravens game, I believe to Benjamin who was 5 yards behind the defense but had to wait for the ball.
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