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Re-Signing Best Scheme Fits Trumps FA Medicority

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  • Did I mention how cool it is to have you back, Flugels? 😎

  • Did I mention how cool it is to have you back, Flugels? 😎

    @calfoxwc said:

    Did I mention how cool it is to have you back, Flugels? 😎

    Thanks Cal! Really glad to be here talking football with you and the group again!

  • the fact that farmer played the same position as gipson did and how he brought in all that DB talent last year, one would hope that he has enough foresight to not let an asset like him walk.

    whatever it takes with gipson IMO.

  • the fact that farmer played the same position as gipson did and how he brought in all that DB talent last year, one would hope that he has enough foresight to not let an asset like him walk.

    whatever it takes with gipson IMO.

    @miktoxic said:

    the fact that farmer played the same position as gipson did and how he brought in all that DB talent last year, one would hope that he has enough foresight to not let an asset like him walk.

    whatever it takes with gipson IMO.

    Worthy of note. Thanks Mik! We gotta keep this guy.

  • Add C Mack to the list. Could Opt out 2016. Restructure Now? Or is he a Cameron that just wants out? The Market is pretty much set..

  • What's happening with Gipson?

  • What's happening with Gipson?

    @opal312 said:

    What's happening with Gipson?

    he's out looking for a bigger offer to bring home with him......could take a while.....these things often happen closer to the deadline, which I think is still 4- 6 weeks away

  • What's happening with Gipson?

    @opal312 said:

    What's happening with Gipson?

    He's going to field offers from other teams, the Browns are going to find out how the league values him then he'll get tossed a nice contract.

    From there? Go on to lead the NFL in interceptions and go to his second pro bowl.

  • Does anyone understand how compensatory draft picks work? With Sheard, Skrine, and Cam leaving in FA, shouldn't that eventually turn in to some reasonable draft picks?

  • Does anyone understand how compensatory draft picks work? With Sheard, Skrine, and Cam leaving in FA, shouldn't that eventually turn in to some reasonable draft picks?

    @htownbrown said:

    Does anyone understand how compensatory draft picks work? With Sheard, Skrine, and Cam leaving in FA, shouldn't that eventually turn in to some reasonable draft picks?

    yes....and it will.....right now they are projecting about 3 picks in the 3rd - 6th range....

    there is no set formula....just a group of picks and a committee who decides.....but, based on past years and compared to the other teams, we are looking good....

  • We can get up to 4 picks. Its based on players lost in FA minus FAs acquired. Players who are cut do not count against it ala Hartline and McCown. Also, resigning your own players does not count.

    So far, weve lost Sheard, Skrine, Cameron, and Hoyer and have not signed any FAs. Id say we'll get at least 3 and one of them will be a 3rd rounder. Unless we sign Clay, then we'd get less...

  • Damn you stick around this board enough you learn a whole lot about this league. Who needs a 10mill Goodell when you got a Mud and The News our Next GM's 😁 PS Tour, Your the Next OL Coach, Hang in There..

  • @htownbrown said:

    Does anyone understand how compensatory draft picks work? With Sheard, Skrine, and Cam leaving in FA, shouldn't that eventually turn in to some reasonable draft picks?

    yes....and it will.....right now they are projecting about 3 picks in the 3rd - 6th range....

    there is no set formula....just a group of picks and a committee who decides.....but, based on past years and compared to the other teams, we are looking good....

    @mudfly said:

    yes....and it will.....right now they are projecting about 3 picks in the 3rd - 6th range....

    there is no set formula....just a group of picks and a committee who decides.....but, based on past years and compared to the other teams, we are looking good....

    Then I think its fair to say we are about to get our deposit back. You could argue a case to resign all 3 of those guys, but to what extent? You have to give credit to Pettine/Farmer for recognizing the value of letting them walk and not replacing them through the market. Sheard was a solid guy, but when this team is healthy we dont need him at that price. Cam didn't want to be here, no matter what unless we overpaid. And Skrine, I don't think was ever in their long-term plans based off last years draft.

    From what I understand the compensation is based mainly on salaries. Hell they could end up with a complete rebate considering they have used $0 to replace them. I think that is how you build from the draft right there gentlemen. They're keeping the right guys and not panicking in FA. Sheard was a 2nd, Cam a 4th, and Skrine a 5th (I think?) . If Farmer gets a 3rd, 4th, and 5th or better, then he is worth his weight.

  • The problem some don't realize is that compensatory picks cannot be traded.

  • Why hasn't Cleveland made a splash yet? They have the cap space! Bring in some talent why don't ya! Dont let Farmer roll the dice after the lemon of a draft he put out last year!

  • Excellent Post. Now if some of the members on here can learn from it.

  • The problem some don't realize is that compensatory picks cannot be traded.

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    The problem some don't realize is that compensatory picks cannot be traded.

    No, but it gives you more freedom to trade some of your own picks to get better talent. The Ravens have been doing it for years. Getting the guys they covet rather than hoping they fall to them.

    If you can trade some of your original 7 picks and get an extra 2nd and/or 3rd, you still have the compensatory picks in the later rounds...

  • Why hasn't Cleveland made a splash yet? They have the cap space! Bring in some talent why don't ya! Dont let Farmer roll the dice after the lemon of a draft he put out last year!

    @domcucch1994 said:

    Why hasn't Cleveland made a splash yet? They have the cap space! Bring in some talent why don't ya! Dont let Farmer roll the dice after the lemon of a draft he put out last year!

    i think you're responding to the wrong thread.

    you need to find the whiners thread and post there.

  • @domcucch1994 said:

    Why hasn't Cleveland made a splash yet? They have the cap space! Bring in some talent why don't ya! Dont let Farmer roll the dice after the lemon of a draft he put out last year!

    i think you're responding to the wrong thread.

    you need to find the whiners thread and post there.

    @miktoxic said:

    i think you're responding to the wrong thread.

    you need to find the whiners thread and post there.

    What exactly am I whining about?

    This whole we gotta build through the draft philosophy has really payed off for us in recent years right?

    It does work when you have experienced GMs and coaching staffs making the calls, instead of these jokers..

    But hey, maybe they will work out. Hopefully Haslam doesn't clean house if the Browns fail to win more than 6 this year

  • Farmer and Pettine have not been around for years.

    Yes. It's whining.