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Re-Signing Best Scheme Fits Trumps FA Medicority

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  • miktoxicM miktoxic

    the fact that farmer played the same position as gipson did and how he brought in all that DB talent last year, one would hope that he has enough foresight to not let an asset like him walk.

    whatever it takes with gipson IMO.

    @miktoxic said:

    the fact that farmer played the same position as gipson did and how he brought in all that DB talent last year, one would hope that he has enough foresight to not let an asset like him walk.

    whatever it takes with gipson IMO.

    Worthy of note. Thanks Mik! We gotta keep this guy.

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  • Add C Mack to the list. Could Opt out 2016. Restructure Now? Or is he a Cameron that just wants out? The Market is pretty much set..

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  • What's happening with Gipson?

    DAMN THE TORPEDOES! FULL SPEED AHEAD!
    MudflyM tiamat63T 2 Replies
  • Opal312O Opal312

    What's happening with Gipson?

    @opal312 said:

    What's happening with Gipson?

    he's out looking for a bigger offer to bring home with him......could take a while.....these things often happen closer to the deadline, which I think is still 4- 6 weeks away

  • Opal312O Opal312

    What's happening with Gipson?

    @opal312 said:

    What's happening with Gipson?

    He's going to field offers from other teams, the Browns are going to find out how the league values him then he'll get tossed a nice contract.

    From there? Go on to lead the NFL in interceptions and go to his second pro bowl.

  • Does anyone understand how compensatory draft picks work? With Sheard, Skrine, and Cam leaving in FA, shouldn't that eventually turn in to some reasonable draft picks?

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  • htownbrownH htownbrown

    Does anyone understand how compensatory draft picks work? With Sheard, Skrine, and Cam leaving in FA, shouldn't that eventually turn in to some reasonable draft picks?

    @htownbrown said:

    Does anyone understand how compensatory draft picks work? With Sheard, Skrine, and Cam leaving in FA, shouldn't that eventually turn in to some reasonable draft picks?

    yes....and it will.....right now they are projecting about 3 picks in the 3rd - 6th range....

    there is no set formula....just a group of picks and a committee who decides.....but, based on past years and compared to the other teams, we are looking good....

    htownbrownH 1 Reply

  • We can get up to 4 picks. Its based on players lost in FA minus FAs acquired. Players who are cut do not count against it ala Hartline and McCown. Also, resigning your own players does not count.

    So far, weve lost Sheard, Skrine, Cameron, and Hoyer and have not signed any FAs. Id say we'll get at least 3 and one of them will be a 3rd rounder. Unless we sign Clay, then we'd get less...

    #Justsayin'

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  • MudflyM Mudfly

    @htownbrown said:

    Does anyone understand how compensatory draft picks work? With Sheard, Skrine, and Cam leaving in FA, shouldn't that eventually turn in to some reasonable draft picks?

    yes....and it will.....right now they are projecting about 3 picks in the 3rd - 6th range....

    there is no set formula....just a group of picks and a committee who decides.....but, based on past years and compared to the other teams, we are looking good....

    @mudfly said:

    yes....and it will.....right now they are projecting about 3 picks in the 3rd - 6th range....

    there is no set formula....just a group of picks and a committee who decides.....but, based on past years and compared to the other teams, we are looking good....

    Then I think its fair to say we are about to get our deposit back. You could argue a case to resign all 3 of those guys, but to what extent? You have to give credit to Pettine/Farmer for recognizing the value of letting them walk and not replacing them through the market. Sheard was a solid guy, but when this team is healthy we dont need him at that price. Cam didn't want to be here, no matter what unless we overpaid. And Skrine, I don't think was ever in their long-term plans based off last years draft.

    From what I understand the compensation is based mainly on salaries. Hell they could end up with a complete rebate considering they have used $0 to replace them. I think that is how you build from the draft right there gentlemen. They're keeping the right guys and not panicking in FA. Sheard was a 2nd, Cam a 4th, and Skrine a 5th (I think?) . If Farmer gets a 3rd, 4th, and 5th or better, then he is worth his weight.

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  • The problem some don't realize is that compensatory picks cannot be traded.

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    thenew23T 1 Reply

  • Why hasn't Cleveland made a splash yet? They have the cap space! Bring in some talent why don't ya! Dont let Farmer roll the dice after the lemon of a draft he put out last year!

    miktoxicM 1 Reply

  • Excellent Post. Now if some of the members on here can learn from it.

  • Tim Couch Pulls OutT Tim Couch Pulls Out

    The problem some don't realize is that compensatory picks cannot be traded.

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    The problem some don't realize is that compensatory picks cannot be traded.

    No, but it gives you more freedom to trade some of your own picks to get better talent. The Ravens have been doing it for years. Getting the guys they covet rather than hoping they fall to them.

    If you can trade some of your original 7 picks and get an extra 2nd and/or 3rd, you still have the compensatory picks in the later rounds...

    #Justsayin'
  • D domcucch1994

    Why hasn't Cleveland made a splash yet? They have the cap space! Bring in some talent why don't ya! Dont let Farmer roll the dice after the lemon of a draft he put out last year!

    @domcucch1994 said:

    Why hasn't Cleveland made a splash yet? They have the cap space! Bring in some talent why don't ya! Dont let Farmer roll the dice after the lemon of a draft he put out last year!

    i think you're responding to the wrong thread.

    you need to find the whiners thread and post there.

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  • miktoxicM miktoxic

    @domcucch1994 said:

    Why hasn't Cleveland made a splash yet? They have the cap space! Bring in some talent why don't ya! Dont let Farmer roll the dice after the lemon of a draft he put out last year!

    i think you're responding to the wrong thread.

    you need to find the whiners thread and post there.

    @miktoxic said:

    i think you're responding to the wrong thread.

    you need to find the whiners thread and post there.

    What exactly am I whining about?

    This whole we gotta build through the draft philosophy has really payed off for us in recent years right?

    It does work when you have experienced GMs and coaching staffs making the calls, instead of these jokers..

    But hey, maybe they will work out. Hopefully Haslam doesn't clean house if the Browns fail to win more than 6 this year

    thenew23T FlugelF MudflyM 3 Replies

  • Farmer and Pettine have not been around for years.

    Yes. It's whining.

  • D domcucch1994

    @miktoxic said:

    i think you're responding to the wrong thread.

    you need to find the whiners thread and post there.

    What exactly am I whining about?

    This whole we gotta build through the draft philosophy has really payed off for us in recent years right?

    It does work when you have experienced GMs and coaching staffs making the calls, instead of these jokers..

    But hey, maybe they will work out. Hopefully Haslam doesn't clean house if the Browns fail to win more than 6 this year

    @domcucch1994 said:

    What exactly am I whining about?

    This whole we gotta build through the draft philosophy has really payed off for us in recent years right?

    Farmer has had 1 year. Pretty sure he added quite a bit through the draft and UDFA... So far, Bitonio, West, Kirksey, K.Williams, and Gabriel have paid off pretty well. If he adds 5 more starter-quality rookies I think that would be pretty impressive...

    People need to quit using the past regimes' failures against our current guys...

    #Justsayin'
    Canton MikeC 1 Reply
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  • Gotta say i'm feeling pretty positive seeing as how the majority of the fans aren't panicking, especially since the media is all "woe is me the sky is falling" both local and national. Thank you for shedding light on the fact that our two signings don't count against the compensatory picks. That was the only piece of the puzzle I didn't get and that makes perfect sense.

    I'm glad the league is looking the other way right now because while everyone is crying wolf, we may actually start seeing some real growth around here.

    The QB position is still concerning but I myself have faith that they can turn it around whether its Manziel or QB "b" from such and such college...

    Too many times the old adage "Defense Wins Championships" comes true. Wouldn't it be nice to see the Dawgs feared once again?

    Who let the DAWGS out??
  • XanthrosX Xanthros

    Gotta say i'm feeling pretty positive seeing as how the majority of the fans aren't panicking, especially since the media is all "woe is me the sky is falling" both local and national. Thank you for shedding light on the fact that our two signings don't count against the compensatory picks. That was the only piece of the puzzle I didn't get and that makes perfect sense.

    I'm glad the league is looking the other way right now because while everyone is crying wolf, we may actually start seeing some real growth around here.

    The QB position is still concerning but I myself have faith that they can turn it around whether its Manziel or QB "b" from such and such college...

    Too many times the old adage "Defense Wins Championships" comes true. Wouldn't it be nice to see the Dawgs feared once again?

    @xanthros said:

    Too many times the old adage "Defense Wins Championships" comes true. Wouldn't it be nice to see the Dawgs feared once again?

    if you think about it, the 'dawgs' are only a couple of solid picks away from being complete.

    we need gilbert to be the first round star pick farmer thought (and many other experts) he would be. and the other DBs to stand ground and grow into solid starters in their own right.

    get us some LB help and a monster DL (along with more depth later in the draft) and i think the defense can be top 5 for years to come.

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