Jonathan Paul Manziel
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BTW, I don't yet own a Manziel jersey, but still DO have & wear a Manziel t-shirt I bought at last year's draft party. This 68 year old didn't jump up on a chair cheering his being drafted to give up on him now (same as I have never & will never give up on the Browns).
Didn't out of self-restraint or couldn't?

"This 68 year old didn't jump up on a chair cheering his being drafted to give up on him now"
Didn't out of self-restraint or couldn't?

When you read it again Tour he sounds like he actually DID jump up on a chair. Or he is senile and forgot whatever it was he did. LOL! We need a chair jumping icon though cliff jumping would more likely win out here.

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You can keep shooting rainbows out your ass and stay positive, but people spend good money and have a right to bitch and complain when they get screwed over year after year. You dont have to click on the threads or even read them. It will quiet down as moves are made and they are quiet in FA so peeps have nothing to divert to. KV
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A. You are BEING an ass.
B. I know it's stupid, but I'm a positive guy, I was born a middle class, goofball BROWNS FAN comedian child.
C. People make their own decisions. It isn't our fault you are frustrated - who isn't? You think bitching helps?
D. Nobody is getting "screwed over". You think the Browns are trying to piz you off? It is what it is, bad start, wrong fo,
wrong coaches. The Browns have fixed that, and last season was their first. It isn't like they draft in the top three picks.
E. I read them for fun, that's why I've been around here for such a long time. Laughing is good.
F. So, you're whining that the Browns should make stupid, expensive moves in FA, just so you can not bitch so much? really?
G. I admire Farmer, and Pettine - and I'm delighted that Flip replaced Shanny. We're good to go now.
H. Oh, you don't like our upbeatness? Gee..."You dont have to click on the threads or even read them"
I. as in, I don't have to have the Browns go to the playoffs or superbowl, to be a fan. Most of us are that way.
J. You might think you're a "peep", but the rest of us will crow when the Browns get it together this coming season,
and really start having a season better than 7 wins.
K. Yes, that's a prediction, and I'm not a quitter, and I don't bitch. Not very much, anyways......
You can keep shooting rainbows out your ass and stay positive, but people spend good money and have a right to bitch and complain when they get screwed over year after year. You dont have to click on the threads or even read them. It will quiet down as moves are made and they are quiet in FA so peeps have nothing to divert to. KV
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A. You are BEING an ass.
B. I know it's stupid, but I'm a positive guy, I was born a middle class, goofball BROWNS FAN comedian child.
C. People make their own decisions. It isn't our fault you are frustrated - who isn't? You think bitching helps?
D. Nobody is getting "screwed over". You think the Browns are trying to piz you off? It is what it is, bad start, wrong fo,
wrong coaches. The Browns have fixed that, and last season was their first. It isn't like they draft in the top three picks.
E. I read them for fun, that's why I've been around here for such a long time. Laughing is good.
F. So, you're whining that the Browns should make stupid, expensive moves in FA, just so you can not bitch so much? really?
G. I admire Farmer, and Pettine - and I'm delighted that Flip replaced Shanny. We're good to go now.
H. Oh, you don't like our upbeatness? Gee..."You dont have to click on the threads or even read them"
I. as in, I don't have to have the Browns go to the playoffs or superbowl, to be a fan. Most of us are that way.
J. You might think you're a "peep", but the rest of us will crow when the Browns get it together this coming season,
and really start having a season better than 7 wins.
K. Yes, that's a prediction, and I'm not a quitter, and I don't bitch. Not very much, anyways......
Nice overreaction!!!
Touched a nerve?
Your whole post is a complete manic attempt at a point.
So your team doesnt have to win to be a fan? Wtf kinda fan is that?? But you say that your frustrated..( who isn't) make up your mind.
Peeps and crows? Easter reference?
You read them for fun...then bitch about them?
Pick a side and stick to it.
If you keep doing the same thing expecting a different result...
I for one dont like mediocrity but hey to each his own, and i get frustrated. My post said nothing about signing a bunch of free agents. Read it again, i said that the bitching will continue till something happens in FA to divert there attention.
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"This 68 year old didn't jump up on a chair cheering his being drafted to give up on him now"
Didn't out of self-restraint or couldn't?

When you read it again Tour he sounds like he actually DID jump up on a chair. Or he is senile and forgot whatever it was he did. LOL! We need a chair jumping icon though cliff jumping would more likely win out here.

"This 68 year old didn't jump up on a chair cheering his being drafted to give up on him now"
When you read it again Tour he sounds like he actually DID jump up on a chair. Or he is senile and forgot whatever it was he did. LOL! We need a chair jumping icon though cliff jumping would more likely win out here.

You Are correct...I DID jump up on a chair!!! You'll find few with my energy at my age, but NO cliff jumping!
I thought Tour was referring to my not buying a jersey.
Mike
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You Are correct...I DID jump up on a chair!!! Canton Mike
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Granddaughter's Barbie chair....
it's about 3 " high........
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No, sorry, I just meant that the rock star or movie star would think
it was a joke, and never took it seriously.
Not talking about a legit relapse.
example:
- www.sheknows.com/entertainment/articles/993143 CachedLindsay Lohan is adamant that ... lack thereof β and why she thinks rehab is a joke. ... The first few times I was court-ordered to rehab, it was like a joke, ...
- Lindsay Lohan says she's not a big drinker, ... Lindsay Lohan: Rehab is a Joke, ... "I donβtthink I need to be on lockdown for three months.
No, sorry, I just meant that the rock star or movie star would think
it was a joke, and never took it seriously.
Not talking about a legit relapse.
example:
- www.sheknows.com/entertainment/articles/993143 CachedLindsay Lohan is adamant that ... lack thereof β and why she thinks rehab is a joke. ... The first few times I was court-ordered to rehab, it was like a joke, ...
- Lindsay Lohan says she's not a big drinker, ... Lindsay Lohan: Rehab is a Joke, ... "I donβtthink I need to be on lockdown for three months.
If you think rehab is a joke, you usually wind up DEAD.
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I agree Hoorta.
I wonder how much of Manziels problem is a drinking problem and how much is simply a narcissistic trait in Johnny? My hope is the drinking is less of a problem. Lot's of people drink to excess but don't have the desire to be the center of attention. Possibly part of his being sequestered is to stay out of the medias sight?
The kid has had a high degree of fame at a very young age. That can go to a persons head pretty quickly. Especially when you add in large amounts of money. You see this with a lot of young entertainers. Maybe part of this is to help Johnny understand that he doesn't always have to be the life of the party.
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No, sorry, I just meant that the rock star or movie star would think
it was a joke, and never took it seriously.
Not talking about a legit relapse.
example:
- www.sheknows.com/entertainment/articles/993143 CachedLindsay Lohan is adamant that ... lack thereof β and why she thinks rehab is a joke. ... The first few times I was court-ordered to rehab, it was like a joke, ...
- Lindsay Lohan says she's not a big drinker, ... Lindsay Lohan: Rehab is a Joke, ... "I donβtthink I need to be on lockdown for three months.
If you think rehab is a joke, you usually wind up DEAD.
If you think rehab is a joke, you usually wind up DEAD.
I've known people who went through ARC in the Navy and it was no joke. The therapy is intense and a one year aftercare mandatory along with logged AA meetings. In those days supervised taking of daily antabuse was also required. If you relapse say goodbye to your career.
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Harsh words from bleacherreport for the Browns f/o.
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Harsh words from bleacherreport for the Browns f/o.
Harsh words from bleacherreport for the Browns f/o.
what a joke mike freeman is. these guys actually get paid to write this shit?
guess he got his journalism degree in a cracker jack box. what a dick.
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sensation seeking "journalist".
He's an ass. Kinda pitiful to even post it on the board.
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Bleacher Report? They're a joke. Bunch of wannabe reporters who can't make it.
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Harsh words from bleacherreport for the Browns f/o.
Harsh words from bleacherreport for the Browns f/o.
Garbage....not even worth the link, imho
what a joke mike freeman is. these guys actually get paid to write this shit?
guess he got his journalism degree in a cracker jack box. what a dick.
Most dont get paid....B/R just publishes articles submitted to them......Ive heard they have about 10, 000 writers....
and they recruit writers all the time(many of them are college journalism students.....and we know college kids know EVERYTHING!
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I'm not sure about everyone else but I'm tired of hearing the brown's beat writers bashing on everyone for not signing every washed up veteran they could find. If you asked Tom Brady what do you want a offensive line and running backs who can flat out pound the rock? Or some washed up receivers? He would pick the line everytime..... I'm sick of hearing everyone cry.
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"This 68 year old didn't jump up on a chair cheering his being drafted to give up on him now"
When you read it again Tour he sounds like he actually DID jump up on a chair. Or he is senile and forgot whatever it was he did. LOL! We need a chair jumping icon though cliff jumping would more likely win out here.

You Are correct...I DID jump up on a chair!!! You'll find few with my energy at my age, but NO cliff jumping!
I thought Tour was referring to my not buying a jersey.
Mike
You'll find few with my energy at my age...
Cybernetics?

Granddaughter's Barbie chair....
it's about 3 " high........
Better choice than American Girl... that shit ain't cheap.
Harsh words from bleacherreport for the Browns f/o.
The comments made following the article could have been written here.
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Harsh words from bleacherreport for the Browns f/o.
Harsh words from bleacherreport for the Browns f/o.
Does the assclown who wrote it realize there's a draft coming up the end of April? LOL, ask him to name the Patriots receivers. I'll spot him Gronk & Edelman, and bet the ranch he can't name 3 others without looking.
Bleacher Report? They're a joke. Bunch of wannabe reporters who can't make it.
Whoo-eee! I'm a published "Sports Journalist".
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Harsh words from bleacherreport for the Browns f/o.
Garbage....not even worth the link, imho
what a joke mike freeman is. these guys actually get paid to write this shit?
guess he got his journalism degree in a cracker jack box. what a dick.
Most dont get paid....B/R just publishes articles submitted to them......Ive heard they have about 10, 000 writers....
and they recruit writers all the time(many of them are college journalism students.....and we know college kids know EVERYTHING!
B/R just publishes articles submitted to them......Ive heard they have about 10, 000 writers....
and they recruit writers all the time(many of them are college journalism students.....and we know college kids know EVERYTHING!
we all remember mike H and his attempts at the b/r journalism thang.
what a joke.
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A first round draft pick, with the potential (according to Browns evaluators) of becoming the face of the Browns in the near future ends up in rehab after the end of his first season. The transition from college to pro was not
going well with veterans questioning his work ethic and doubting his leadership potential as he struggled learning and executing plays from a watered down offensive scheme solely catered to his so-called strengths. It's
documented his inclination to keep long hours on the party circuit. Looking back there were obvious red flags indicating JM needed guidance and quickly yet Browns head of player security, Lewis Merlitti, kept his head buried
in the sand along with the other staff members whose primary task is to develop players who can help the Browns win on Sunday. Hindsight is of course 20 -20 but I feel there should have been an intervention far sooner
than seasons end. There was a breakdown somewhere in the system and Haslam should be asking himself if he has the right components in place for a young player to develop
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A first round draft pick, with the potential (according to Browns evaluators) of becoming the face of the Browns in the near future ends up in rehab after the end of his first season. The transition from college to pro was not
going well with veterans questioning his work ethic and doubting his leadership potential as he struggled learning and executing plays from a watered down offensive scheme solely catered to his so-called strengths. It's
documented his inclination to keep long hours on the party circuit. Looking back there were obvious red flags indicating JM needed guidance and quickly yet Browns head of player security, Lewis Merlitti, kept his head buried
in the sand along with the other staff members whose primary task is to develop players who can help the Browns win on Sunday. Hindsight is of course 20 -20 but I feel there should have been an intervention far sooner
than seasons end. There was a breakdown somewhere in the system and Haslam should be asking himself if he has the right components in place for a young player to develop
. It's documented his inclination to keep long hours on the party circuit. Looking back there were obvious red flags indicating JM needed guidance and quickly yet Browns head of player security, Lewis Merlitti, kept his head buried in the sand along with the other staff members whose primary task is to develop players who can help the Browns win on Sunday. Hindsight is of course 20 -20 but I feel there should have been an intervention far sooner than seasons end. There was a breakdown somewhere in the system and Haslam should be asking himself if he has the right components in place for a young player to develop
Couple of things- forced interventions rarely turn out well. Possibly Manziel saw what happened to Gordon, saw himself going down the same career ending track, and decided to do something about it.
He had to want it. As Abraham Lincoln once said- "think for a moment how hard it is to change yourself, and you will realize what little hope you have of changing others."
If you want a failure- it was the failure of Farmer and Pettine to not dig deep enough into Manziel's psyche before they drafted him. Thought they could "manage" him. Wrong. But my 20\20 hindsight says Manziel would have wound up in the same place (rehab) regardless of which team eventually drafted him.
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Roger on the forced intervention but my angle is why they gave him the long leash coming in with a recent history of abuse. as mik keeps harping, the control over the prized qb investment was sorely lacking, all things considered.
time for some green beer......Happy Saint Patricks day flamers
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These ass-wipes keep talking about our receivers like Gordon was here all of last year and amassed 1500 yards.
Our guys did pretty well IMO.
Do you ever feel like just slapping somebody?
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