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    High School Forces Kids to Recite Pledge of Allegiance in Arabic, Prompting Outrage
    by Top Right News on March 19, 2015 in Education, Islam
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    by Gina Cassini | Top Right News

    In the latest outrage involving schools indoctrinating children in Islam — with the full encouragement of the Obama Administration — a New York high school made students recite our national Pledge of Allegiance in Arabic.

    They even forced the kids to change “one nation under god” to “one nation under Allah.”

    Pine Bush High school was already embroiled in a scandal when it allowed rampant anti-Semitism to go on — the school was even sued for its failure to stop the blatant hate against Jews.

    And now it is forcing kids to say the Pledge in Arabic. Is this still America?

    An effort to celebrate national Foreign Language Week by reading the Pledge of Allegiance in Arabic Wednesday has polarized Pine Bush High School into angry factions.
    The morning’s regularly scheduled announcements included the Arabic reading of the pledge.
    According to students, the announcement was greeted by catcalls and angry denunciations in classrooms throughout the school by students who felt the reading was inappropriate.
    The reading became the subject of angry talk throughout the school and a cascade of tweets both from students who criticized the reading and those who supported it.

    Thankfully, many students rejected it and complained, although some have told Top Right News that they have heard they could face disciplinary action for doing so, which is typical of the Leftist facists who run our public schools and teachers unions.

    Many parents were also outraged, and went to the media, along with complaining to the district.

    Stunningly, the school’s president of the student assembly and senior class president, Andrew Zink, insisted that saying the pledge in Arabic is “the right thing to do.” The principal must be so proud of his Progressive foot soldier falling in line.

    THIS is your government schools, folks! Stand up now, or be hammered down by Sharia.

    The school in New York isn’t the only one that has forced kids to recite the Pledge in Arabic. Back in 2013 a Fort Collins, Colorado school also became mired in the Pledge in Arabic.

    Sharia mind-control has spread like wildfire during the Obama Era, as we have reported extensively. Last month, I reported on a Common Core school assignment that forced students to make Islamic prayer rugs, and recite Muslim Prayers, and a U.S. Marine dad who was banned from school after protesting an assignment that blatantly promoted Islam.

    TRN has also exposed a Nation of Islam pamphlet telling 3rd graders America’s Founding Fathers were racists; a high school girl forced to produce propaganda promoting Islam to younger students; and Boston-area father pulling his son out of classafter he was subjected to Islamic indoctrination without even being notified.

    If your child’s school presents an unbalanced view of Islam, let me know at: [email protected].

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      the left is undermining the American collective culture. It's what the left does.

      They tear down, then put into place their own marxist agendas.

      mentally ill stuff. NY city, or just NY state?

      Common Core is just another means to the leftists' end.

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        MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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        Well, it would be pretty dumb to count to 10 in Spanish but say "seven" on the way.

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          Well, it would be pretty dumb to count to 10 in Spanish but say "seven" on the way.

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          @mld-woody said:

          Well, it would be pretty dumb to count to 10 in Spanish but say "seven" on the way.

          You are looking at it objectionably, and while I get that there is emotion involved in praising a god that others praised at the very moment they attacked our country. You can't rule out emotion always. There is no way in hell I would ever say one nation under Allah.

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            You guys realize Christian Arabs call God "Allah," too? This is just another right-wing fake outrage story. If they were speaking Spanish, would you be outraged when they said Dios?

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              Os, stop already with the knee jerk reaction.

              You apparently missed the part:

              " a New York high school made students recite our national Pledge of Allegiance in Arabic."

              ARABIC.

              Why the refusal to see the picture for what it is? It's a pro Muslim, pro arabic, twist.

              And, this is also part of the picture:

              " I reported on a Common Core school assignment that forced students to make Islamic prayer rugs, and recite Muslim Prayers, and a U.S. Marine dad who was banned from school after protesting an assignment that blatantly promoted Islam."

              That is why the outrage. And I'm sick and tired of spanish. Spanish on recording when you call companies,

              spanish on so many labels of products. STFU already with the studidass spanish.

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                LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on last edited by
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                It was foreign language week at a school. I don't quite get the outrage but rage on I guess. I am no fan of Islam or any religion for that matter but I don't presume that every kid learning a foreign language is being indoctrinated. Girls who take french don't immediately wear berets and quit shaving their pits.

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                  MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                  We aren't at war with Islam. We aren't at war with everyone that speaks Arabic.

                  Like Logic said, it was foreign language week. They probably did a bunch of things in a bunch of different languages. They weren't being "indoctrinated" with any of them.

                  This is fake outrage for outrage sake. How dare American students learn about other cultures though.

                  Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                    It was foreign language week at a school. I don't quite get the outrage but rage on I guess. I am no fan of Islam or any religion for that matter but I don't presume that every kid learning a foreign language is being indoctrinated. Girls who take french don't immediately wear berets and quit shaving their pits.

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                    OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                    @logicisforsquares said:

                    It was foreign language week at a school. I don't quite get the outrage but rage on I guess. I am no fan of Islam or any religion for that matter but I don't presume that every kid learning a foreign language is being indoctrinated. Girls who take french don't immediately wear berets and quit shaving their pits.

                    For me the problem was using the pledge of allegiance. That was a huge NO.

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                      We aren't at war with Islam. We aren't at war with everyone that speaks Arabic.

                      Like Logic said, it was foreign language week. They probably did a bunch of things in a bunch of different languages. They weren't being "indoctrinated" with any of them.

                      This is fake outrage for outrage sake. How dare American students learn about other cultures though.

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                      DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                      @mld-woody said:

                      We aren't at war with Islam. We aren't at war with everyone that speaks Arabic.

                      Like Logic said, it was foreign language week. They probably did a bunch of things in a bunch of different languages. They weren't being "indoctrinated" with any of them.

                      This is fake outrage for outrage sake. How dare American students learn about other cultures though.

                      Go play with your legos.

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                        Anything to discourage saying the pledge is a good thing.

                        I have developed a problem with saying the pledge in any language. The pledge isn't a declaration of patriotism.

                        http://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/whats-conservative-about-pledge-allegiance

                        "From its inception, in 1892, the Pledge has been a slavish ritual of devotion to the state, wholly inappropriate for a free people. It was written by Francis Bellamy, a Christian Socialist pushed out of his post as a Baptist minister for delivering pulpit-pounding sermons on such topics as 'Jesus the Socialist.' '

                        It was an indoctrination, especially in rural areas and the south - to think of the the United States as a indivisible nation and not a Union of States. "One Nation, and we won't think about anyone ever wanting to leave, ever again. Forever"

                        Hope has two beautiful daughters: Their names are Anger and Courage. Anger that things are the way they are. Courage to make them the way they ought to be. - St. Augustine. Throughout the centuries there were men who took first steps down new roads armed with nothing but their vision. - Ayn Rand
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                          Anything to discourage saying the pledge is a good thing.

                          I have developed a problem with saying the pledge in any language. The pledge isn't a declaration of patriotism.

                          http://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/whats-conservative-about-pledge-allegiance

                          "From its inception, in 1892, the Pledge has been a slavish ritual of devotion to the state, wholly inappropriate for a free people. It was written by Francis Bellamy, a Christian Socialist pushed out of his post as a Baptist minister for delivering pulpit-pounding sermons on such topics as 'Jesus the Socialist.' '

                          It was an indoctrination, especially in rural areas and the south - to think of the the United States as a indivisible nation and not a Union of States. "One Nation, and we won't think about anyone ever wanting to leave, ever again. Forever"

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                          OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                          @mohican said:

                          Anything to discourage saying the pledge is a good thing.

                          I have developed a problem with saying the pledge in any language. The pledge isn't a declaration of patriotism.

                          http://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/whats-conservative-about-pledge-allegiance

                          It was an indoctrination, especially in rural areas and the south - to think of the the United States as a indivisible nation and not a Union of States. "One Nation, and we won't think about anyone ever wanting to leave, ever again. Forever"

                          Interesting but I just consider the pledge as symbolic of loyalty to one's country which any citizen should be loyal to their own country. You can disagree on issues but loyalty to your own country is never an issue. If you can't be loyal then leave.

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                            those of us (myself badly at times) that follow the Christian faith should have an issue with saying the pledge

                            http://www.redletterchristians.org/the-pledge-of-allegiance-2-reasons-why-christians-should-not-say-it/

                            #2 Jesus also teaches that men cannot serve two masters at the same time.

                            When teaching about worldly treasures, Jesus says we should be more concerned with the things of heaven and God’s kingdom than those of this world.

                            “No one can serve two masters. Either you will hate the one and love the other, or you will be devoted to the one and despise the other.” (Matthew 6:24)

                            We can’t give our loyalty to two masters and be pleasing to both. Whether the choice is between God and money, God and man, God and a government or nation, the choice is always the same, one or the other. It seems that Jesus is saying ‘you can’t have your cake and eat it too’. In light of this it just doesn’t seem possible to me to give my loyalty to God, and then try and give it to a government at the same time. Jesus also said ” My kingdom is not of this world”. Jesus has a kingdom, and just like an earthly kingdom , I can’t be loyal to two kingdoms at once. It would be impossible to be loyal to the USA and Iran at the same time! It’s the same with being part of the kingdom of God. Jesus calls us to be loyal to his kingdom, and if we have given our loyalty to God’s kingdom, how then can we try and give it to America or any other worldly kingdom?

                            To sum up: Pledging allegiance to the flag equates to making an oath of loyalty to an earthly kingdom. Both acts are condemned by Jesus. I’m ready to stop pledging loyalty to the United States or any other kingdom other than the kingdom of heaven. How about you?

                            Hope has two beautiful daughters: Their names are Anger and Courage. Anger that things are the way they are. Courage to make them the way they ought to be. - St. Augustine. Throughout the centuries there were men who took first steps down new roads armed with nothing but their vision. - Ayn Rand
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                              We aren't at war with Islam. We aren't at war with everyone that speaks Arabic.

                              Like Logic said, it was foreign language week. They probably did a bunch of things in a bunch of different languages. They weren't being "indoctrinated" with any of them.

                              This is fake outrage for outrage sake. How dare American students learn about other cultures though.

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                              @mld-woody said:

                              Like Logic said, it was foreign language week.

                              Thank you specht.

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                                those of us (myself badly at times) that follow the Christian faith should have an issue with saying the pledge

                                http://www.redletterchristians.org/the-pledge-of-allegiance-2-reasons-why-christians-should-not-say-it/

                                #2 Jesus also teaches that men cannot serve two masters at the same time.

                                When teaching about worldly treasures, Jesus says we should be more concerned with the things of heaven and God’s kingdom than those of this world.

                                “No one can serve two masters. Either you will hate the one and love the other, or you will be devoted to the one and despise the other.” (Matthew 6:24)

                                We can’t give our loyalty to two masters and be pleasing to both. Whether the choice is between God and money, God and man, God and a government or nation, the choice is always the same, one or the other. It seems that Jesus is saying ‘you can’t have your cake and eat it too’. In light of this it just doesn’t seem possible to me to give my loyalty to God, and then try and give it to a government at the same time. Jesus also said ” My kingdom is not of this world”. Jesus has a kingdom, and just like an earthly kingdom , I can’t be loyal to two kingdoms at once. It would be impossible to be loyal to the USA and Iran at the same time! It’s the same with being part of the kingdom of God. Jesus calls us to be loyal to his kingdom, and if we have given our loyalty to God’s kingdom, how then can we try and give it to America or any other worldly kingdom?

                                To sum up: Pledging allegiance to the flag equates to making an oath of loyalty to an earthly kingdom. Both acts are condemned by Jesus. I’m ready to stop pledging loyalty to the United States or any other kingdom other than the kingdom of heaven. How about you?

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                                OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                                @mohican said:

                                those of us (myself badly at times) that follow the Christian faith should have an issue with saying the pledge

                                I had never given this a lot of thought but I am thinking you are right.

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                                  @mld-woody said:

                                  We aren't at war with Islam. We aren't at war with everyone that speaks Arabic.

                                  Like Logic said, it was foreign language week. They probably did a bunch of things in a bunch of different languages. They weren't being "indoctrinated" with any of them.

                                  This is fake outrage for outrage sake. How dare American students learn about other cultures though.

                                  Go play with your legos.

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                                  @diehardbrownsfan said:

                                  Go play with your legos.

                                  Ok. Legos are awesome

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                                    I would think an engineer would like legos.

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                                      @mohican said:

                                      Anything to discourage saying the pledge is a good thing.

                                      I have developed a problem with saying the pledge in any language. The pledge isn't a declaration of patriotism.

                                      http://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/whats-conservative-about-pledge-allegiance

                                      It was an indoctrination, especially in rural areas and the south - to think of the the United States as a indivisible nation and not a Union of States. "One Nation, and we won't think about anyone ever wanting to leave, ever again. Forever"

                                      Interesting but I just consider the pledge as symbolic of loyalty to one's country which any citizen should be loyal to their own country. You can disagree on issues but loyalty to your own country is never an issue. If you can't be loyal then leave.

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                                      mohicanM mohican wrote on last edited by
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                                      @oldbrownsfan said:

                                      Interesting but I just consider the pledge as symbolic of loyalty to one's country which any citizen should be loyal to their own country. You can disagree on issues but loyalty to your own country is never an issue. If you can't be loyal then leave.

                                      "If you can't be loyal then leave". I used to think like that, but starting in the the Bush II Years and then with the Obama presidency I have been rethinking that position.

                                      It depends how you prioritize things.

                                      What is loyalty?

                                      How much loyalty do I owe this country - I was born here, and did not make a conscous effort (unlike a legal immigrant) to become a citizen. So my citizenship is a matter of birth. So I have to ask myself - what do I owe to the United States?

                                      If we enter more wars that I know are unjust, immoral then do I owe loyalty? Should I pay taxes to fund that, and should I willingly feed myself into the chipper shredder?

                                      If I think Gay marriage is immoral, should I support a government that circumvents religious safeguards and forces people to comply with the immorality?

                                      Or can you love your land, and it's people and not support the government? Should my loyalty mean helping my neighbor get his livestock out of a burning barn, or helping force someone to provide a service they know is wrong?

                                      And as for leaving if I don't approve of the actions of the government, why should I? I worked my ass off to get my property. Why leave? and where would I go to?

                                      so the "if you're not loyal just leave argument rings more hollow each year.

                                      Hope has two beautiful daughters: Their names are Anger and Courage. Anger that things are the way they are. Courage to make them the way they ought to be. - St. Augustine. Throughout the centuries there were men who took first steps down new roads armed with nothing but their vision. - Ayn Rand
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                                        So.... as a Christian, you can't be loyal to your own local football team, either, I take it.

                                        And certainly, you can't be loyal to anything. In fact, you should be disloyal to everything

                                        except Christianity.....

                                        it isn't even funny or entertaining. It's....something else not good.

                                        I'm loyal to my country forever, but the US is not my "master".

                                        Liberals, and other silly people, gloss over, or misuse words to make "special" points.

                                        In the original Hebrew and/or Greek, the various words denoting "master" mostly reference

                                        "teacher/leader".

                                        Not "I love and am loyal to country, favorite team....etc."

                                        In the early days, when I went to church, the church was not my "master/leader" and neither was the

                                        pastor. Those were a means to the end - learning more about God, about Jesus, via God's Word.

                                        Therefore, when I understood about tithing in original Hebrew and Greek, it wasn't the same as

                                        members paying a flat 10% of their gross income.

                                        Well, one fine day, I happened to stop in and talk to him about it. He got a bit incensed, and

                                        told me that was just the way it was. I said, if not justified by the original Hebrew and Greek,

                                        why do so many churches have that same tithing policy?

                                        Well, he looked at me smartly and said "because it works". I said "well, robbing a bank "works", but it

                                        is wrong."......and he got red in the face, formerly censored me to leave the church and not come back.

                                        So, I left, and didn't. But he ended up studying that subject, in the original Hebrew and Greek,

                                        and one day called, humbly apologized, and said he was wrong. They changed their policy.

                                        You can be loyal to your country, team, city, family, freedoms, cracker jacks, whatever for the most part...per whatever "bibles"

                                        apply to you.

                                        And God's Law has nothing to do with obeying traffic laws, or gov laws. Those are societal/governing laws.

                                        God's Laws are per salvation, as I see it.

                                        https://www.biblegateway.com/resources/encyclopedia-of-the-bible/Master

                                        "sigh"

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                                          Well put, cal.

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