Danny Shelton
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i myself would take shelton all day long considering you have to question whether taylor can last a whole season.
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yeah...I waffle on it.....very happy Im not the one who has to choose....
Part of me says get the dynamic LB first, cause he wont be there at 12,,,,,while theres a good chance that Shelton, Ray or Brown would still be there....letting you get 2 defensive starters, instead of one....
tough tough choice....brrrr
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yeah...I waffle on it.....very happy Im not the one who has to choose....
Part of me says get the dynamic LB first, cause he wont be there at 12,,,,,while theres a good chance that Shelton, Ray or Brown would still be there....letting you get 2 defensive starters, instead of one....
tough tough choice....brrrr
yeah...I waffle on it.....very happy Im not the one who has to choose....
Part of me says get the dynamic LB first, cause he wont be there at 12,,,,,while theres a good chance that Shelton, Ray or Brown would still be there....letting you get 2 defensive starters, instead of one....
tough tough choice....brrrr
Ray? Shane Ray? I keep telling people not to be shocked if he's the first pass rusher off the board. I'm honestly not all that impressed with Gregory or Fowler. Atlanta plays a ton of 4down so it's a natural fit for them.
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Gotta say.....I know of one person who reads em and replies.......everytime......on and on and on and on......endlessly....
All you old timers really get a kick out of yourselves. As far as Shelton is concerned doesn't he project at DT? You have Phil Taylor unless the team would put Shelton at end where I think he's out of position. Taylor sure as hell can't play de
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i myself would take shelton all day long considering you have to question whether taylor can last a whole season.
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Gotta say.....I know of one person who reads em and replies.......everytime......on and on and on and on......endlessly....
All you old timers really get a kick out of yourselves. As far as Shelton is concerned doesn't he project at DT? You have Phil Taylor unless the team would put Shelton at end where I think he's out of position. Taylor sure as hell can't play de
All you old timers really get a kick out of yourselves. As far as Shelton is concerned doesn't he project at DT? You have Phil Taylor unless the team would put Shelton at end where I think he's out of position. Taylor sure as hell can't play de
Actually Phil fills quite well when he's the SDE.
Two firsts in dt's? If they were interested in Shelton i would think Taylor would have been moved and not Rubin.
Rubin is gone, Taylor is coming off injury and might not be back next year. Gives the Browns the ability to make sure Shelton's conditioning is top notch and gradually bring him along in the defense.
Is that not plausible?
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All you old timers really get a kick out of yourselves. As far as Shelton is concerned doesn't he project at DT? You have Phil Taylor unless the team would put Shelton at end where I think he's out of position. Taylor sure as hell can't play de
Actually Phil fills quite well when he's the SDE.
Two firsts in dt's? If they were interested in Shelton i would think Taylor would have been moved and not Rubin.
Rubin is gone, Taylor is coming off injury and might not be back next year. Gives the Browns the ability to make sure Shelton's conditioning is top notch and gradually bring him along in the defense.
Is that not plausible?
Actually Phil fills quite well when he's the SDE.
Rubin is gone, Taylor is coming off injury and might not be back next year. Gives the Browns the ability to make sure Shelton's conditioning is top notch and gradually bring him along in the defense.
Is that not plausible?
I know Rubin is gone. Phil is huge for a de. I don't see them drafting Shelton.
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It's more than likely a moot point as Shelton probably won't last that long, but if he's on the board at 12 I don't see them making any other pick.
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i myself would take shelton all day long considering you have to question whether taylor can last a whole season.
i myself would take shelton all day long considering you have to question whether taylor can last a whole season.
Phil's good every other year so I expect to see a lot of him in 2015. My issue is Kitchen. He's not a #2 NT IMO. With Shelton and Taylor in a 1-2 rotation there's position dominance on the field the entire game.
As far as Shelton is concerned doesn't he project at DT?
NT... best NT prospect in the draft.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
I just don't see Shelton making it to 12. I wish he would though.
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with all these crazy mocks i'm seeing (shelton falling to us, kevin white falling to us etc. etc.) who knows what's going to happen.
all i know if i was a defensive minded head coach and we needed the center of our D line upgraded, shelton would be the guy.
i'm hopin farmer pulls his best sonny weaver on draft night.
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Just something to consider for all those who feel defense, especially Dline isn't something of a priority. I wasn't aware of just how bad it was until I saw some PFF stats backing up what my eyes saw. - NO, it wasn't our linebackers.
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The Browns defensive line that combined to earn a -48.6 overall grade last season which featured only one defender with a positive overall grade" -
with all these crazy mocks i'm seeing (shelton falling to us, kevin white falling to us etc. etc.) who knows what's going to happen.
all i know if i was a defensive minded head coach and we needed the center of our D line upgraded, shelton would be the guy.
i'm hopin farmer pulls his best sonny weaver on draft night.
i'm hopin farmer pulls his best sonny weaver on draft night.
Just so long as he doesn't Instagram it, he can pull whatever he wants...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
i myself would take shelton all day long considering you have to question whether taylor can last a whole season.
Phil's good every other year so I expect to see a lot of him in 2015. My issue is Kitchen. He's not a #2 NT IMO. With Shelton and Taylor in a 1-2 rotation there's position dominance on the field the entire game.
As far as Shelton is concerned doesn't he project at DT?
NT... best NT prospect in the draft.
I know who he is and have been enamored with him since the senior bowl. I'd LOVE for him to be a Steeler but I know that's a pipe dream. My point was unless I was missing something he doesn't also project to de and with Taylor its just overkill for the browns to draft him. Unless they have no faith in taylor staying healthy. Shelton isn't a two down DT either. He's like ngata.Phil's good every other year so I expect to see a lot of him in 2015. My issue is Kitchen. He's not a #2 NT IMO. With Shelton and Taylor in a 1-2 rotation there's position dominance on the field the entire game.
NT... best NT prospect in the draft.
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I know who he is and have been enamored with him since the senior bowl. I'd LOVE for him to be a Steeler but I know that's a pipe dream. My point was unless I was missing something he doesn't also project to de and with Taylor its just overkill for the browns to draft him. Unless they have no faith in taylor staying healthy. Shelton isn't a two down DT either. He's like ngata.Phil's good every other year so I expect to see a lot of him in 2015. My issue is Kitchen. He's not a #2 NT IMO. With Shelton and Taylor in a 1-2 rotation there's position dominance on the field the entire game.
NT... best NT prospect in the draft.
I know who he is and have been enamored with him since the senior bowl. I'd LOVE for him to be a Steeler but I know that's a pipe dream. My point was unless I was missing something he doesn't also project to de and with Taylor its just overkill for the browns to draft him. Unless they have no faith in taylor staying healthy. Shelton isn't a two down DT either. He's like ngata.
You're getting hung up on position labels that don't apply to Pet's scheme. It's a 3-4 that more closely resembles a 4-3 in many sets. That Big Phil was called a DE last year is exhibit A for what I am saying.
Totally hear you on the 2-down BS though. He's not fast but plenty quick enough to pressure up the middle and rack up a few sacks. Ngata was more explosive and faster, maybe even a bit stronger, and undoubtedly has better hands... but not a bad comparison. Being 2" shorter, Shelton may be slightly tougher to move.
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Just something to consider for all those who feel defense, especially Dline isn't something of a priority. I wasn't aware of just how bad it was until I saw some PFF stats backing up what my eyes saw. - NO, it wasn't our linebackers.
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The Browns defensive line that combined to earn a -48.6 overall grade last season which featured only one defender with a positive overall grade"NO, it wasn't our linebackers.
The Browns defensive line that combined to earn a -48.6 overall grade last season which featured only one defender with a positive overall grade"
This was basically the premise of my defense analysis post....
just to add the that -48.6 score......the Browns bottom 5 scores were all DL.....and bottom 7 outta 10....
The worst 5 Browns defenders(by score) were:
Phil Taylor....-6.5
D. Bryant......-6.5
B. Winn........-7.7
Sione Fua....-11.4
A. Ruben.....-14.3
add Kitchen at -2.7 and A. Bryant at -3.4.....
Kind of says it all about the run defense.....though, NOW, they gotta decide if it was injury....talent.....or scheme.....
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Move up and grab this monster. He can't pass and neither can any of the Browns QB's the team has traded up for. Roll the dice on defense for a change. Draft violence.
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Move up and grab this monster. He can't pass and neither can any of the Browns QB's the team has traded up for. Roll the dice on defense for a change. Draft violence.
Draft violence.
Draft violence!............I like it!
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