Jonathan Paul Manziel
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(Wrong coke)
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OK, read it. Mr. Farmer, I have one suggestion to you. Go watch the play Bradford blew out his ACL against the Browns last preseason- and every other time he's done so- a few hundred times. Get back to me and tell me with a straight face you think the second coming of KiJana Carter or Lawyer Tillman is worth Manziel and a first round pick.
About right.
Not even sure I'd go that high Mark.
Horta, Horta, Horta, picking fights is child's play now a days. I never said it was a good idea, just saying the rumor exists.
Horta, Horta, Horta, picking fights is child's play now a days. I never said it was a good idea, just saying the rumor exists.
Ya- and there's a rumor an alien spaceship is in Roswell too.
- Which brings me to my last thought. I DONT GIVE A FUCK IF YOUR NAME IS JOE THOMAS. If you don't play to your very best ability each and every time you take the field, I don't give a fuck if it's Daffy Duck taking the snaps, you pull that shit and I find out about it... they can come and pick your ass up outside the stadium mid game because you won't play for me. I'd trade for somebody that wants to play. Say what you want about Manziel but I didn't see him fucking around and not trying.. he may not have done very good but he was trying. That is how the game we all love gets tarnished, that's how careers get ended, injuries happen when shit like that happens. You play for the Browns, the Fans and your livelihood, I could care less if you like Manziel as a person, but you'd better fucking block his ass off. I'm not calling out Joe Thomas specifically, I'm just making a point. What would Paul Brown do?
PG, by his own admission JFF didn't play to the best of his ability.
Paul Brown would have cut Manziel's partying I don't give a shit attitude by the 4th game, at the latest. More likely, wouldn't even have drafted him.
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Horta, Horta, Horta, picking fights is child's play now a days. I never said it was a good idea, just saying the rumor exists.
Ya- and there's a rumor an alien spaceship is in Roswell too.
- Which brings me to my last thought. I DONT GIVE A FUCK IF YOUR NAME IS JOE THOMAS. If you don't play to your very best ability each and every time you take the field, I don't give a fuck if it's Daffy Duck taking the snaps, you pull that shit and I find out about it... they can come and pick your ass up outside the stadium mid game because you won't play for me. I'd trade for somebody that wants to play. Say what you want about Manziel but I didn't see him fucking around and not trying.. he may not have done very good but he was trying. That is how the game we all love gets tarnished, that's how careers get ended, injuries happen when shit like that happens. You play for the Browns, the Fans and your livelihood, I could care less if you like Manziel as a person, but you'd better fucking block his ass off. I'm not calling out Joe Thomas specifically, I'm just making a point. What would Paul Brown do?
PG, by his own admission JFF didn't play to the best of his ability.
Paul Brown would have cut Manziel's partying I don't give a shit attitude by the 4th game, at the latest. More likely, wouldn't even have drafted him.
Ya- and there's a rumor an alien spaceship is in Roswell too.
PG, by his own admission JFF didn't play to the best of his ability.
Paul Brown would have cut Manziel's partying I don't give a shit attitude by the 4th game, at the latest. More likely, wouldn't even have drafted him.
I thought they moved it to Wright Patterson, AFB?
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I thought they moved it to Wright Patterson, AFB? DH
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No, I was stationed there, never saw it.
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Why are we even bothering to talk about this guy. He pulled the wool over all of our eyes last season and I don't care what he says, he will never be a started for our team or anyone else. I beg the Browns, do not trade him for Sam Bradford (had injuries his last three years). Please don't fall for it. We know what the Eagles are trying to do (getting higher draft picks), so please don't fall for the old 'Rope a Dope'
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I'm not a JF fanboy... I was on Derrick Carr hardcore. I saw a legitimate NFL QB there, All the moxie and heart of Colt McCoy, the big playmaking ability of Johnny Manziel, the love of the game like Peyton Manning, character and leadership of a Tom Brady and the arm of Aaron Rodgers....
...but, we got Manziel. It is what it is. Manziel is exciting when he's on his game.
Just read this article about Derek Carr-
Derek Carr more comfortable as leader this season
Posted by Josh Alper on April 7, 2015, 6:47 AM EDT
Derek Carr
AP
When the Raiders started their offseason workouts last year, quarterback Derek Carr was still waiting to find out what NFL team would bring him on board.
Oakland would make Carr a second-round pick the next month and he’d eventually beat out Matt Schaub to become the team’s starter for all 16 games in his rookie season. Carr had his ups and downs on the field, but showed enough promise to hold the job heading into this season and believes that he’ll be a better leader with a year of experience under his belt.
“When I came in, out of respect, I couldn’t just be the alpha male, the dominant leader, because it wasn’t my team yet,” Carr said, via Jerry McDonald of Bay Area News Group. “I couldn’t assert my leadership role. Now I don’t have to hold back. I can come in and be myself from the beginning and lead our team.”
Carr will be playing in a different scheme, but said Monday that he thinks offensive coordinator Bill Musgrave is installing things that Carr does well as part of an effort that makes him more at home in the offense. Those changes should make it even easier for Carr to assert his leadership since they make it clear that he’s the centerpiece of the unit for the present and future in Oakland.------------------------------------
Now, after reading that it shows you that it's going to take time for a rookie QB to establish himself and lead a team. Carr had the team from the start of the season- 16 games. Manziel was in Hoyer's shadow from the beginning, although it was almost as if Hoyer was in Manziel's shadow. There was dysfunction from the onset and not all of it belongs to Manziel. He should win the starting job this year from McCown and lead the team and follow in Carr's footsteps, albeit a year behind.
For the guys that say they would rather have a pocket only passer like Bradford at QB... we did, his name was Brandon fucking Weeden. God, his shit was so bad EVERYBODY was ready for ANYTHING. That's where Hoyer cam in...
Anyways you get the point, Carr; a natural born leader took a while to come in and make a team his own. He didn't have to contend with Manziel Mania, the watching of his every move. Manziel had to unseat a HOMETOWN HERO, an Ohio native, blah, blah, blah. Manziel never had a chance to win the job from Hoyer. Just as McCoy NEVER had the chance to win the gig from Weeden. Anytime Manziel came in to run one of his packages, which were working pretty good until they abandoned them, you'd catch Hoyer POUTING on the sidelines... he knew his days were numbered yet wanted to play. I doubt he took Manziel under his wing... if anything he probably slipped him laxatives pre-game. Ha.
It takes time. The kid will be alright. People need to quit making it into a Manziel Witch hunt. Get the kid some weapons and an OL that wants to block for him and let's see what he's got, but you've got to give it time. Baby steps in the right direction and we'll be farther along than we've been in 15 years.
- Which brings me to my last thought. I DONT GIVE A FUCK IF YOUR NAME IS JOE THOMAS. If you don't play to your very best ability each and every time you take the field, I don't give a fuck if it's Daffy Duck taking the snaps, you pull that shit and I find out about it... they can come and pick your ass up outside the stadium mid game because you won't play for me. I'd trade for somebody that wants to play. Say what you want about Manziel but I didn't see him fucking around and not trying.. he may not have done very good but he was trying. That is how the game we all love gets tarnished, that's how careers get ended, injuries happen when shit like that happens. You play for the Browns, the Fans and your livelihood, I could care less if you like Manziel as a person, but you'd better fucking block his ass off. I'm not calling out Joe Thomas specifically, I'm just making a point. What would Paul Brown do?
Manziel was in Hoyer's shadow from the beginning, although it was almost as if Hoyer was in Manziel's shadow.
Manziel never had a chance to win the job from Hoyer. Just as McCoy NEVER had the chance to win the gig from Weeden. Anytime Manziel came in to run one of his packages, which were working pretty good until they abandoned them...
I cherish the little nuggets of humor Po hides in his rants...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Manziel was in Hoyer's shadow from the beginning, although it was almost as if Hoyer was in Manziel's shadow.
Manziel never had a chance to win the job from Hoyer. Just as McCoy NEVER had the chance to win the gig from Weeden. Anytime Manziel came in to run one of his packages, which were working pretty good until they abandoned them...
I cherish the little nuggets of humor Po hides in his rants...
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Pace yourself, Ag... it's gonna be a long summer....
LOL. I'm actually looking forward to seeing what happens with him this summer without all the JF persona baggage. Just plain old John Manziel trying to become the QB for the Browns and not the Spokesperson for Celebrity Cruise Line.
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Ready or not... here he comes...
Johnny Manziel Released From Rehab
http://dawgpounddaily.com/2015/04/11/johnny-manziel-released-from-rehab/
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Now he can wreck this league.
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if he's not gone before TC i wish him success too.
if he can't learn the playbook and compete at the NFL level then it's time to forget the JF experiment and move on.
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nah man, you need the 'Rocky' theme music.
who's manziel's Adrian.......PoG?
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if he's not gone before TC i wish him success too.
if he can't learn the playbook and compete at the NFL level then it's time to forget the JF experiment and move on.
if he's not gone before TC i wish him success too.
if he can't learn the playbook and compete at the NFL level then it's time to forget the JF experiment and move on.
co-sign. as long as he's a Brown, I'm wishing him success, I really do hope he becomes Cleveland's saviour.
Probable? Naaaah. But nothing is impossible.
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