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  • @westside-steve said:

    Consent is a meaningless word here. You know what woody you all know it.

    You're just making shit up because that pisses you off.

    Make it a pubescent 13 then. Kid this old man will give you an iPod and all you have to do is this. No pain involved whatsoever. What are you afraid it will teach him? That homosexuality is OK? That prostitution is profitable?

    You sound just like the Bible thumpers you despise.

    WSS

    You really reached on that one to try to piss me off, huh? You must have been pretty proud of yourself as you typed that last line...

    A kid can't consent. Your brain isn't anywhere near fully developed at 13. Maybe your sex organ are starting to kick in, but not every part of your brain.

    @mld-woody said:

    You really reached on that one to try to piss me off, huh? You must have been pretty proud of yourself as you typed that last line...

    A kid can't consent. Your brain isn't anywhere near fully developed at 13. Maybe your sex organ are starting to kick in, but not every part of your brain.

    Too bad you dont apply the same logic to a kid in the womb who cant consent to his being aborted...he isn't fully developed either.

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  • @westside-steve said:

    Well Clevfan4life is a cretin Logic, you aren't. I do like to bust balls when people come up with stupid reasons for not doing something, or for doing them.

    Let's say, just for argument sake, the NAMBLA member actually loves the boy treats him well takes care of him and gives him nice presents.

    And like our little science boys say humans are just naturally born homosexual, what's the problem?

    In some cultures it's perfectly normal for children to become active in their early teens. Many here as well, right?

    So what's the difference?

    ☆If one party is 40? It creeps us out pisses us off.☆

    No other logical reason for the ban.

    WSS

    Well, the boy cannot consent to a sexual act until the age of 18 and also it is fucking gross. The last part just being a cultural thing. I don't care what some random tribe does but I can certainly think it is foul.

    @logicisforsquares said:

    Well, the boy cannot consent to a sexual act until the age of 18 and also it is fucking gross. The last part just being a cultural thing. I don't care what some random tribe does but I can certainly think it is foul.

    It is foul, no doubt. So is homosexuality to a good many people. But I think you can read your first sentence and realize how ridiculous that is.

    Actually why shouldn't we lock up people who have sex anytime before their 21st birthday? You can't make an informed decision, right?

    And let's not forget the 18 and under crowd! I say they get caught masturbating or reading a Playboy straight to juvenile hall.

    Informed concet you say? Guy says I love you chick drops her pants what if he doesn't really love her? To the penitentiary! 15 year old gets a handjob from a 16 year old. Prison? Try them as adults?

    You can't make a case at all against sex with a child who has reached puberty. That's nature that's science right boys? And certainly you don't want to thump that Bible do you?

    Face it boys, you think it should be illegal because it grosses you out. Just like the homophobes.

    WSS

  • @westside-steve said:

    Consent is a meaningless word here. You know what woody you all know it.

    You're just making shit up because that pisses you off.

    Make it a pubescent 13 then. Kid this old man will give you an iPod and all you have to do is this. No pain involved whatsoever. What are you afraid it will teach him? That homosexuality is OK? That prostitution is profitable?

    You sound just like the Bible thumpers you despise.

    WSS

    You really reached on that one to try to piss me off, huh? You must have been pretty proud of yourself as you typed that last line...

    A kid can't consent. Your brain isn't anywhere near fully developed at 13. Maybe your sex organ are starting to kick in, but not every part of your brain.

    @mld-woody said:

    You really reached on that one to try to piss me off, huh? You must have been pretty proud of yourself as you typed that last line...

    A kid can't consent. Your brain isn't anywhere near fully developed at 13. Maybe your sex organ are starting to kick in, but not every part of your brain.

    Proud of myself? Oh dear Woodrow there is more pride in asking a dog "where is the ball where is the ball?" seeing him jump around excitedly when I know all the while it's behind my back...

    🙂

    WSS

  • @mld-woody said:

    You really reached on that one to try to piss me off, huh? You must have been pretty proud of yourself as you typed that last line...

    A kid can't consent. Your brain isn't anywhere near fully developed at 13. Maybe your sex organ are starting to kick in, but not every part of your brain.

    Proud of myself? Oh dear Woodrow there is more pride in asking a dog "where is the ball where is the ball?" seeing him jump around excitedly when I know all the while it's behind my back...

    🙂

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    Proud of myself? Oh dear Woodrow there is more pride in asking a dog "where is the ball where is the ball?" seeing him jump around excitedly when I know all the while it's behind my back...

    🙂

    WSS

    Oh, yes. I responded. Therefore I am enraged and/or taking this to seriously.

    A more accurate analogy would be you jumping all around, flailing about, yelling at your dog, while your dog just sits there

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  • "Where's the ball woody come on where's the ball?"

    WSS

  • So exactly at what age does a blow job change from a horrible and cruel destructive act to expression of beautiful love?

    WSS

  • More to the point, woodpeckers love balls....

    http://www.duncraft.com/Woodpecker-Seed-Balls

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  • @westside-steve said:

    Consent is a meaningless word here. You know what woody you all know it.

    You're just making shit up because that pisses you off.

    Make it a pubescent 13 then. Kid this old man will give you an iPod and all you have to do is this. No pain involved whatsoever. What are you afraid it will teach him? That homosexuality is OK? That prostitution is profitable?

    You sound just like the Bible thumpers you despise.

    WSS

    Kids can't make informed decisions. Thus why they can't join the military, get a credit card, or agree to a night out in Chester's panel van.

    @logicisforsquares said:

    Kids can't make informed decisions. Thus why they can't join the military, get a credit card, or agree to a night out in Chester's panel van.

    what are you doing dude? Do you not see you're trying to explain things that to normal people it just "goes without saying".....?? And you questioned why I bust balls?

  • @westside-steve said:

    Consent is a meaningless word here. You know what woody you all know it.

    You're just making shit up because that pisses you off.

    Make it a pubescent 13 then. Kid this old man will give you an iPod and all you have to do is this. No pain involved whatsoever. What are you afraid it will teach him? That homosexuality is OK? That prostitution is profitable?

    You sound just like the Bible thumpers you despise.

    WSS

    You really reached on that one to try to piss me off, huh? You must have been pretty proud of yourself as you typed that last line...

    A kid can't consent. Your brain isn't anywhere near fully developed at 13. Maybe your sex organ are starting to kick in, but not every part of your brain.

    @mld-woody said:

    . Your brain isn't anywhere near fully developed at 13. .

    And as should be painfully obvious to you by now some people's brains absolutely never develop properly. You can just print this this thread out and hand it to a psychologist and see what he says.

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  • @mld-woody said:

    You really reached on that one to try to piss me off, huh? You must have been pretty proud of yourself as you typed that last line...

    A kid can't consent. Your brain isn't anywhere near fully developed at 13. Maybe your sex organ are starting to kick in, but not every part of your brain.

    Too bad you dont apply the same logic to a kid in the womb who cant consent to his being aborted...he isn't fully developed either.

    Stuart said:

    Too bad you dont apply the same logic to a kid in the womb who cant consent to his being aborted...he isn't fully developed either.

    another apples to oranges out of you, its really your thing isn't it? Not really fully developed yourself there huh stewie?

  • So exactly at what age does a blow job change from a horrible and cruel destructive act to expression of beautiful love?

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    So exactly at what age does a blow job change from a horrible and cruel destructive act to expression of beautiful love?

    WSS

    This was culturally decided between men and women long ago. If you ever had a young daughter and came home to find a grown man sticking is cock in her but she swore she consented, you'd still kill the guy. I hope that happens to you in your next life.

  • The concept of tying up homosexuality with paedophilia to try to demonise them both equally is as old and tired as, well, a lot of people here 😉 Just in case you're having difficulty with this, please try to bear in mind the following:

    - No, being gay doesn't automatically make you a sexual predator.

    - No, speaking to a gay person won't make you or your kids gay; it might make them realise that being gay is fine, and they might come out, but in that case, they were already gay.

    - We have an age limit on consent because kids generally cannot make responsible decisions - this is also why they can't drink, drive, vote, join the army or watch fifty shades of grey.

    - Nobody is attacking heterosexual marriage. Everyone is still free to marry someone of the opposite sex.

    - Nobody is forcing you to have gay sex. Except that guy in the prison showers. Sorry about that.

    - Advocating gay rights in general does not mean you're gay, it means you're a decent person.

    - Nobody should be forcing churches to marry gay couples.

    - You don't have the right to refuse someone from your business just because they're gay. Or black, old, young, have weird hair, smell slightly funky, or cheated to beat you at mah-jong yesterday. That being said, people should still be understanding in these situations and not resort to law suits.

    - Nobody is attacking religious freedom. You're still free to worship whichever deity (deities) you choose, but the religious doctrine should not impact the law, and you do not get to impose it on other people - they have religious freedom too. There may be a lot of crossover, but there'll also be lots of things in your scripture not in the law.

    OK?

  • For the hundredth time I'm not talking about pedophilia. Pedophilia is having sex with a prepubescent child. A child who has reached puberty is naturally ready to reproduce.

    We want that to be illegal because it pisses us off and for no other reason. You made up something about consent which you can't even explain. ( think again about whether a child can consent to do his chores go to school or clean his room . If he refuses he is punished right?) Think of the times you bray at people for saying homosexuality is wrong because the Bible says so. It's because it creeps them out and they have made up a reason to be angry about it. What's funny is I know you are bright enough to understand that but you just can't let yourself admit it. The lasting damage done to the psychology of a 13 year old as sex with an older person is because of societal reaction. Much like homosexual persecution. If it were not so severely condemned in society people would be much less fucked up.

    Imagine if those taboos didn't exist and that 2% of the population could just go about their lives without worries.

    WSS

  • @westside-steve said:

    So exactly at what age does a blow job change from a horrible and cruel destructive act to expression of beautiful love?

    WSS

    This was culturally decided between men and women long ago. If you ever had a young daughter and came home to find a grown man sticking is cock in her but she swore she consented, you'd still kill the guy. I hope that happens to you in your next life.

    @clevfan4life said:

    This was culturally decided between men and women long ago. If you ever had a young daughter and came home to find a grown man sticking is cock in her but she swore she consented, you'd still kill the guy. I hope that happens to you in your next life.

    Well what you hope for doesn't concern me much, since you are such an unmitigated asshole but you are correct. The only reason that's a taboo is because it pisses you off. Just like homosexuality pisses some people off. If you came home and found you are 30 year old wife in bed with another man you'd probably kill him. Or her or want to.

    Why? The Bible says so?

    So should that be illegal?

    WSS

  • Well that's the way it used to be - when there was grass on the wicket, it was ready for cricket, as the saying went. So then why introduce any kind of laws? Because young people generally are not capable of making responsible decisions for themselves. It's not so much about consent, and I didn't mention consent. Kids can consent to drinking a litre of vodka because it would make them cool - it would also make them dead.

    Besides, 16 is not a crazy old age for consent, is it? We're agreed that sex with pre-pubescent kids is wrong. Good. Then when puberty starts, and the kids start looking more like adults, with the associated attributes, it's an understandable reaction to occasionally find them attractive. But then they're still going through puberty, they're still not really adults yet. So, when does puberty end, when do they actually become adults? Well, that would be some time around 16 years old. Hey look, that's the age of consent! Wow, what a coincidence with that number society plucked out of their arse.

  • Sorry, I did mention consent, but not in the context you're suggesting, of "kids can't consent, that's why it's illegal, but the don't consent to eating broccoli" or whatever bullshit you're trying to pedal this time.

    Six months ago, I would have assumed you could tell the difference, and you were just playing devils advocate. Today, you've done that so much, and with such bullshit arguments and twisted misinterpretations, I have to wonder if you actually believe what you're saying.

  • No you didn't mention consent that's why I revised the post. I often have to reread and revise. Usually I do it fairly quickly.

    😉

    But you understand how silly it is to make a blanket law because some people can't make a responsible decision right? You don't have any friends that have been taken for a ride by a boyfriend or girlfriend? Despite their age? Do you think Donald sterling can make an informed decision when a twenty something fashion model offers to pretend to love him for his money? Really?

    WSS

  • Well I do believe it's true. And I am being the devil's advocate because it pisses me off as much as it would any of you patriarchal types. But I'm smart enough to see that correlation.

    And whether the arguments are bullshit or not no one has been able to dispute a single one without using some ridiculous consent excuse.

    Did you ever see the island of dr. Moreau? Or read the HG Wells book?

    WSS

    PS we all make the same arguments over and over and over year after year