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Minimum wage hike already backfiring

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    C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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    ahh, k

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      @westside-steve said:

      Not to be bickersome but even though your commission percent is set the Commission salesmen might be happy enough to sell you a basic order of widgets while the enterprising fellow might try to boost that a few percent or entice you to buy a couple orders of specially made washers for those widgets.

      I worked for a short time as a commission salesman any music shop.

      One example there was that you didn't get any commission on accessories like pics or strings or guitar straps etc. Therefore nobody bothered to try to add those things on to a sale and strings, for example, are a relatively high profit sale as a percentage of cost. I personally didn't like the Commission system but some guys really hustled. They would keep a log book of every customer that they spoke to and about what. One reason for that is that customer came in during the salesman's day off he could show the manager it was his regular customer. I never bothered and never liked the hard sell so I'm assuming that guy was a better salesman than me.

      Also it's becoming more and more prevalent over here that your meals are brought by food runners rather than your actual server. For what it's worth.

      WSS

      What music shop did you work? I frequent Sams on Mayfield a lot. Great selection.
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      W Westside Steve wrote on last edited by
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      Stuart said:

      What music shop did you work? I frequent Sams on Mayfield a lot. Great selection.

      Akron music.

      Montrose I only worked when somebody needed a day off and Cuyahoga Falls in the midst 19 eighties part time for a while.

      Way before Sam Ash and Guitar Center.

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        AxeA Axe wrote on last edited by
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        http://rightwingnews.com/technology/tech-company-develops-robots-to-take-the-place-of-15-an-hr-workers-video/

        Our musical works to date http://www.arielsatticmusic.com/
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          Legacy FanL Legacy Fan wrote on last edited by
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          Umm duh.

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            MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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            Sounds fine. Jobs in manufacturing, research, development, engineering, etc

            Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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              T The Cysko Kid wrote on last edited by
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              Ok some minimum wage employees might be able to eventually take jobs in manufacturing, development and engineering but let's get real. The majority of adult mcdonalds workers would not have been able to keep their shit together enough to successfully enter the actual work force.

              Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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                MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                Oh, no. I didn't mean they were moving from one to another. I was just saying some of those jobs were being created

                Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                  T The Cysko Kid wrote on last edited by
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                  What I'm getting at is that you're permanently putting those people out of one of their few suitable job opportunities.

                  Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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                    T The Cysko Kid wrote on last edited by
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                    Although I'd rather have my fast food prepared by a robot than by a low class person to be honest.

                    Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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                      MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                      Natural evolution of things. I'm sure our country has had similar things happen in the past due to technology

                      We just need to make the education and training they need more easily available

                      Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                        T The Cysko Kid wrote on last edited by The Cysko Kid
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                        A lot of them are just unfit and no amount of tech school will fix that.

                        Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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                        • MLD WoodyM MLD Woody

                          Natural evolution of things. I'm sure our country has had similar things happen in the past due to technology

                          We just need to make the education and training they need more easily available

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                          Browns149B Browns149 wrote on last edited by
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                          @mld-woody said:

                          Natural evolution of things. I'm sure our country has had similar things happen in the past due to technology

                          We just need to make the education and training they need more easily available

                          Just because the education and training is available, doesn't mean people have the ability to use it and understand it. Or the want and desire to better themselves

                          "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
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                            @mld-woody said:

                            Natural evolution of things. I'm sure our country has had similar things happen in the past due to technology

                            We just need to make the education and training they need more easily available

                            Just because the education and training is available, doesn't mean people have the ability to use it and understand it. Or the want and desire to better themselves

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                            MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                            @browns149 said:

                            Just because the education and training is available, doesn't mean people have the ability to use it and understand it. Or the want and desire to better themselves

                            Right, and we can't force them too.

                            But for those that want to, but can't afford it, we should give them easier access.

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                              W Westside Steve wrote on last edited by Westside Steve
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                              Keep in mind that 1 of the aimes of all the science technology etc is to come up with ways to produce without using much human labor. You don't need 10000 grunts in overalls to run Google.

                              If a monkey can do the job it's probably not going to be worth a lot of money. And if we are forced to pay a lot of money then technology will rightly replace that job.

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                              • MLD WoodyM MLD Woody

                                @browns149 said:

                                Just because the education and training is available, doesn't mean people have the ability to use it and understand it. Or the want and desire to better themselves

                                Right, and we can't force them too.

                                But for those that want to, but can't afford it, we should give them easier access.

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                                T The Cysko Kid wrote on last edited by
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                                @mld-woody said:

                                Right, and we can't force them too.

                                But for those that want to, but can't afford it, we should give them easier access.

                                I'd rather see more people skip college altogether unless they're planning to be a doctor or a lawyer or an engineer and apprentice in a trade instead. I would guess (yes its a guess woody brfore you start in with your usual semantic bickering) somewhere around 75% of college degrees are worthless and amount to little more than cash grabs for the school.

                                Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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                                  MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                                  And by education I meant skilled trades too. The plant I'm at is going to have that issue in a few years. There is no young talent replacing the old guys. But you can make a nice living

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