The GOP establishment trying to force idiot candidates on America
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We need more people pursuing vocational careers. Almost every plant I've worked in, especially the current one, has a pretty old maintenance team. Half of the guys could retire now, and the rest in about 5 years. Electricians, Machine Repair, etc. There is good money to be made there to. I just think jobs like this have a negative connotation to some, so they aren't pursued.
now you are getting into real life scenarios in and around (any) industry. I am laughing at the prospect of the college guy having to roll up his sleeves and get "dirty"
because Joe called in sick,
And like you said - Bill is retiring next year and the new hires dont have a clue! or there ARENT any qualified people to support the infrastructure.
Just be lucky you arent that high up in the management (yet?) so as not to have to stare down a union boss and tell him to go pound sand....
and wait til he leaves so he wont see you changing into a uni? HAHAHA
now you are getting into real life scenarios in and around (any) industry. I am laughing at the prospect of the college guy having to roll up his sleeves and get "dirty"
because Joe called in sick,
And like you said - Bill is retiring next year and the new hires dont have a clue! or there ARENT any qualified people to support the infrastructure.
Just be lucky you arent that high up in the management (yet?) so as not to have to stare down a union boss and tell him to go pound sand....
and wait til he leaves so he wont see you changing into a uni? HAHAHA
I roll up my sleeves and work on machines a lot. I'm a manufacturing engineer, I do a lot of hands on things. We also brought in a new line I was responsible for getting up and running.
There are a lot of restrictions in working with a union. A lot of times it makes my job harder/take longer to complete things. But, I've gotten in pretty well with the union here, and they've allowed me to work more on things that might be considered maintenance. So I can't complain too much.
We have no new hires in skilled trades. Well, no young new hires at least.
I will not be involved in the union contract discussions taking place next year. I'll be at another facility by then too. Though I would like to see it. We have almost doubled the workforce in the last year, with mainly younger operators. There is a divide amount the older and newer operators on the importance of being union.
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I have worked with alot of engineers too - and Nothing earns more respect than having a guy jump in whenever hes needed
kudos to you and good luck!
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Drinking game: drink every time woody mentions stem or bitches about "young earth". Double shots every time he has a delusional belief michigan can compete with OSU. you'll never be sober.
Is it a new mention every time I just reply to an ongoing conversation? In that case, you owe Legacy fan for your buzz.
Is there a drinking game about you saying every black person in the world having the same "black" culture? How about your obviously very emotionally charged views on topics? No game? oh, ok
If you want delusional, read the posts by OSU fans in the CFB Board (some of which are yours). Anything that isn't 100% OSU all of the time is an attach or an insult on the school. You can't sort one from the other, especially from a Michigan fan. I'll leave it at that though, this thread would get even more off topic. Reply to this part of the post as you see fit.
Is it a new mention every time I just reply to an ongoing conversation? In that case, you owe Legacy fan for your buzz.
Is there a drinking game about you saying every black person in the world having the same "black" culture? How about your obviously very emotionally charged views on topics? No game? oh, ok
If you want delusional, read the posts by OSU fans in the CFB Board (some of which are yours). Anything that isn't 100% OSU all of the time is an attach or an insult on the school. You can't sort one from the other, especially from a Michigan fan. I'll leave it at that though, this thread would get even more off topic. Reply to this part of the post as you see fit.
Im probably the least if your worries over on the CFB Board. As for black culture which I do mention as being the worst racial culture on earth I bring it up a lot less than you mention your pet peeves. For as often as blacks get up to shenanigans in the news I avoid it probably 7 of 10 times only commenting when it gets out of hand (which, admittedly, seems frequent lately) it's to your discredit that you think I've said "every black person" participates in the perpetuation of that culture but it's there all the same and denying it makes you look just sort of Retardy.
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Yes. Hopefully that eases your curiosity. I'd say that's more useful then generalizing that poor people will all be rich smart and successful if you just write them a check for college.
WSS
We need more people pursuing vocational careers. Almost every plant I've worked in, especially the current one, has a pretty old maintenance team. Half of the guys could retire now, and the rest in about 5 years. Electricians, Machine Repair, etc. There is good money to be made there to. I just think jobs like this have a negative connotation to some, so they aren't pursued.
We need more people pursuing vocational careers. Almost every plant I've worked in, especially the current one, has a pretty old maintenance team. Half of the guys could retire now, and the rest in about 5 years. Electricians, Machine Repair, etc. There is good money to be made there to. I just think jobs like this have a negative connotation to some, so they aren't pursued.
I think you are correct although it seems silly that people with no job experience would consider a career as an electrician not good enough for themselves. What you've got now is an entire new generation who has gotten the idea that they will go to college and have 100,000 dollar a year jobs. It's just not reality
Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind... -
I hire roofers, Auto Mechanics, Plumber, House repair, drywall guys, lawn services, electricians etc etc all of which to perform services I could probably do myself if I spent 10 times the amount of effort and wasn't worried about doing a shitty job.
WSS
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I hire roofers, Auto Mechanics, Plumber, House repair, drywall guys, lawn services, electricians etc etc all of which to perform services I could probably do myself if I spent 10 times the amount of effort and wasn't worried about doing a shitty job.
WSS
I hire roofers, Auto Mechanics, Plumber, House repair, drywall guys, lawn services, electricians etc etc all of which to perform services I could probably do myself if I spent 10 times the amount of effort and wasn't worried about doing a shitty job.
WSS
Not sure about there but here you need an electrician to sign off any electrical work, even if you do it yourself, otherwise it invalidates your insurance, makes you liable for stuff etc.
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I hire roofers, Auto Mechanics, Plumber, House repair, drywall guys, lawn services, electricians etc etc all of which to perform services I could probably do myself if I spent 10 times the amount of effort and wasn't worried about doing a shitty job.
WSS
Not sure about there but here you need an electrician to sign off any electrical work, even if you do it yourself, otherwise it invalidates your insurance, makes you liable for stuff etc.
Not sure about there but here you need an electrician to sign off any electrical work, even if you do it yourself, otherwise it invalidates your insurance, makes you liable for stuff etc.
Oh I'm not really talking about red tape, just hiring guys that know how to do something better than I do. Correction lots lots better than I do. And those guys make a good living.
WSS
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I hire roofers, Auto Mechanics, Plumber, House repair, drywall guys, lawn services, electricians etc etc all of which to perform services I could probably do myself if I spent 10 times the amount of effort and wasn't worried about doing a shitty job.
WSS
Not sure about there but here you need an electrician to sign off any electrical work, even if you do it yourself, otherwise it invalidates your insurance, makes you liable for stuff etc.
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Can we back the truck up a minute? (my stewed tomatoes for tomato dumplings is cooking...)...
Legacy and Woody were talking about Carson and his Christian belief about God creating the world
only so long ago. etc.
Where was this idea that that is a problem with Carson ever being president, when OBAMAO is also
a Christian, so he also believes the same?
Why is it a "concern" only about Carson? Obamao says all along he was a Christian.
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I have worked with alot of engineers too - and Nothing earns more respect than having a guy jump in whenever hes needed
kudos to you and good luck!
I have worked with alot of engineers too - and Nothing earns more respect than having a guy jump in whenever hes needed
kudos to you and good luck!
Awe, even more compliments today!
My mfg engr group got down to just me for a few months. I had to basically do everything. I'm fresh outta school. I need to put in the long hours, just grind now to get recognized. Normal stuff.
The maintenance guys let me do a lot of that stuff now though, so that's nice. It is usually some collaborative engineering and maintenance stuff, but then I can get in there and help with there end. Hands on things.
There are a lot of different types of engineers. Manufacturing Engineers will do that. Design Engineers, not so much.
What job do you have where you get to work with a lot if engineers?
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We need more people pursuing vocational careers. Almost every plant I've worked in, especially the current one, has a pretty old maintenance team. Half of the guys could retire now, and the rest in about 5 years. Electricians, Machine Repair, etc. There is good money to be made there to. I just think jobs like this have a negative connotation to some, so they aren't pursued.
I think you are correct although it seems silly that people with no job experience would consider a career as an electrician not good enough for themselves. What you've got now is an entire new generation who has gotten the idea that they will go to college and have 100,000 dollar a year jobs. It's just not reality
I think you are correct although it seems silly that people with no job experience would consider a career as an electrician not good enough for themselves. What you've got now is an entire new generation who has gotten the idea that they will go to college and have 100,000 dollar a year jobs. It's just not reality
I agree with this. Honestly, I wouldn't want to do any of those vocational jobs. I'm shooting for that 6 figure job.
Not to sound too arrogant, but my case and the case of others in similar roles are the exception. There are plenty of people maybe not cutout to be Engineers, Lawyers, Doctors, etc, but think they're still too good for vocational work. You're right, that's dumb. Those jobs just aren't seen in a great light. Even though they pay very well, require a lot if technical knowledge, and can open up more high paying options. They're also desperately needed within engineering.
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Can we back the truck up a minute? (my stewed tomatoes for tomato dumplings is cooking...)...
Legacy and Woody were talking about Carson and his Christian belief about God creating the world
only so long ago. etc.
Where was this idea that that is a problem with Carson ever being president, when OBAMAO is also
a Christian, so he also believes the same?
Why is it a "concern" only about Carson? Obamao says all along he was a Christian.
Can we back the truck up a minute? (my stewed tomatoes for tomato dumplings is cooking...)...
Legacy and Woody were talking about Carson and his Christian belief about God creating the world
only so long ago. etc.
Where was this idea that that is a problem with Carson ever being president, when OBAMAO is also
a Christian, so he also believes the same?
Why is it a "concern" only about Carson? Obamao says all along he was a Christian.
I think it was more a beef with Carson being a Young Earth believer. Not so much a belief in God.
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Can we back the truck up a minute? (my stewed tomatoes for tomato dumplings is cooking...)...
Legacy and Woody were talking about Carson and his Christian belief about God creating the world
only so long ago. etc.
Where was this idea that that is a problem with Carson ever being president, when OBAMAO is also
a Christian, so he also believes the same?
Why is it a "concern" only about Carson? Obamao says all along he was a Christian.
I think it was more a beef with Carson being a Young Earth believer. Not so much a belief in God.
I think it was more a beef with Carson being a Young Earth believer. Not so much a belief in God.
Pretty much.
If I had a problem with a candidate calling themselves Cristian, I wouldn't be able to vote for anyone for a while.
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wait... by definition a Christian IS a young earth believer.
You'd be going by the Biblical explanation that God created the Heaven
and the Earth.
or, I suppose you could differentiate between a literal translation of the creation,
and a metaphorical translation.
I don't know what it says in the original Hebrew and Greek, and whether or not it
is a metaphor - is a question for the ages.
But understanding that God exists - who is to say that God created the earth at a different time
than the science says?
I say that, because carbon dating itself is subject to controversy, and the confusing factors
are also scientific.
http://www.contenderministries.org/evolution/carbon14.php
The universe has surely existed forever. There was never a time when it didn't exist.
Now, does the original Hebrew and Greek refer to the creation of our earth as we know it,
refer to God taking a lifeless planet, and creating it into earth, with all the trappings of life
and water?
Even with no controversy about carbon dating, the earth could easily have existed
for many billions of years, eternally even.....but it was lifeless and barren - not earth as we know it.
The planets in our solar system - no life. no people. probably no water/oceans. In all the magnificence
of earth's complex biology/botany and geology... to believe it was all by accident, well, I find that far more ludicrous
than believing that God took a lifeless planet, and formed the oceans, and all life on it.
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Cal, he believes that the Earth is 6,000 years old. To me that tells me that he either doesn't believe geologists or thinks they are all lying. I would say that most Christians believe that the Earth is a fair bit older than that but just believe that God created it all.
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Cal... please. Don't go down this road. Don't embarrass yourself any more than you already have. You don't want to join the OldBrownsFan team of Religion over Science.
His believe in a young Earth, against mountains of scientific evidence, is concerning. A few posters here agree. I wouldn't want a president that would choose to be willfully ignorant about anything.
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This is hilarious
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What road? Carbon dating has been questioned as far as accuracy.
Why is it always okay for liberals to question, but not anybody else?
Why is it always science that supports liberals viewpoints/anti-viewpoints,
but science that opposes is completely disregarded?
I was just asking the question....don't know the answer about it.
But what is wrong with this explanation of carbon dating limitations?
(the slurs, Woody, do nothing when you don't back up what the hell you are
trying to diminish without any supporting evidence.)
https://www.physicsforums.com/threads/questions-about-carbon-dating.751976/
Carbon dating is not used to date the age of the earth. As you've read from other posts, it dates when an object dies, and the earth was never alive. Furthermore, C-14 has a half life of 5730 years. That means the technique starts to run out of steam at about 50,000 years. It's important to understand the range of validity of the test. C-14 is a very good technique to date when a shoe worn by Cleopatra was made. It's not so good in dating a shoe worn by Imelda Marcos or one by Fred Flintstone.
Reference https://www.physicsforums.com/threads/questions-about-carbon-dating.751976/ -
The earth is definitely 6000 years old. There is no doubt about that. Then there's that other billion years or so.
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Well, explain why this is scientifically wrong, Woody.
I'm just asking the question. Why, I thought challenging was a great thing to you.
Of course, it's only when you decide it's okay to challenge...
https://answersingenesis.org/geology/carbon-14/doesnt-carbon-14-dating-disprove-the-bible/
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