Televangelists - Last Week Tonight
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Steve got it. Trying to ridicule all TV evangelists by posting about the worst
of them... if fine with woody, but he doesn't like the same tactic
used on engineers. Kinda obvious...
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What was the point of Cals response then Steve?
Oh I suspect you could guess but let me venture that yes there are some bad televangelist out there in the world. There are also some bad engineers.
Sound like a good guess?
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Oh I suspect you could guess but let me venture that yes there are some bad televangelist out there in the world. There are also some bad engineers.
Sound like a good guess?
WSS
Umm... I guess. If by bad you mean "bad at their jobs" then sure. If by bad you mean "actually a bad person" then that's probably true too.
But I must have missed the examples of engineers preying on the stupid/desperate with religion, basically acting as conmen, to this scale.
If Cals response was an attempt to say "well this thing you like is bad too!" he did a pretty poor job of it.
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Steve got it. Trying to ridicule all TV evangelists by posting about the worst
of them... if fine with woody, but he doesn't like the same tactic
used on engineers. Kinda obvious...
Steve got it. Trying to ridicule all TV evangelists by posting about the worst
of them... if fine with woody, but he doesn't like the same tactic
used on engineers. Kinda obvious...
Engineers aren't supposed to save souls, have moral high ground or preach the coming of the lord. Invalid comparison in my opinion.
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The content is different, but the logical structure of the argument is the same. I simply
flipped the setup structurally, only I used engineers. Turnabout is fair play.
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Except it really isn't Cal...
These televangelists are purposely taking advantage of people for monetary gain. The examples you posted were terrible accidents.
The scale of this real issue vs your made up one aren't the same either.
I think you're just reaching at something here because I posted a thread that puts part Christianity in a negative light. Are you trying to defend their actions?
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I don't defend these televangelists but because they are wrong does not make Jesus or the bible wrong. Most people have enough discernment to see their phoniness but they do prey big time on the shuts ins and elderly which is sad.
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They're just more open in their use of religion as a scam. They need to tone it down like they're supposed to...
But you're right, these people don't prove the bible or Jesus wrong.
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The content is different, but the logical structure of the argument is the same. I simply
flipped the setup structurally, only I used engineers. Turnabout is fair play.
The content is different, but the logical structure of the argument is the same. I simply
flipped the setup structurally, only I used engineers. Turnabout is fair play.
Not at all. You have one group preying (no pun intended) on those looking for a miracle. The other group accidents of a colossal nature.
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Yes. Different content. Same mo on generally dissing an entire group of people.
Basically, the same structure. The title doesn't say
"crazy nutjob evangelists taking advantage of goofy people who believe what they say"...
it says evangelists.
and I didn't say "crazy nutjob engineers taking advantage of goofy people who believe in what
they design".
Qubbling about the very end content/details doesn't make the basic logical structures
stop being the same.
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Yes. Different content. Same mo on generally dissing an entire group of people.
Basically, the same structure. The title doesn't say
"crazy nutjob evangelists taking advantage of goofy people who believe what they say"...
it says evangelists.
and I didn't say "crazy nutjob engineers taking advantage of goofy people who believe in what
they design".
Qubbling about the very end content/details doesn't make the basic logical structures
stop being the same.
Yes. Different content. Same mo on generally dissing an entire group of people.
Basically, the same structure. The title doesn't say
"crazy nutjob evangelists taking advantage of goofy people who believe what they say"...
it says evangelists.
Actually, it says Televangelists.
More to the point, why offer such a general rebuttal to an entire segment of people when Woody has highlighted with a video a particular few?
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Because "televangelists", and Woody says it shows part of Christianity in a bad light.
I personally don't call that Christianity. I've always wondered if they are conmen, or just plain
not in their right minds, and/or have serious emotional issues.
But it isn't just televangelists. There are all sorts of the same preachers who never get on tv.
Maybe those engineers had serious emotional issues. Maybe they were just incompetent.
But basically, woody is slurring Christianity with this element of dingbats on TV, always pleading for more money,
etc etc etc.
But the engineers were either totally incompetent, or they took a job for big, big money, knowing that they
didn't have a clue how to successfully engineer what they engineered, but took advantage of those officials
who hired them, not knowing any better.
We don't really know. But basically, Woody posted this as a slur toward Christians in general, pointing out the
worst.
I posted, sarcastically, the same thing, basically. I posted as a slur to engineers in general, by pointing out the worst.
To show a video of teachers, or lawyers, or doctors, in the same "worst of them" scenarios... and it's basically the same
logical slur structure.
Arguing that teachers don't engineer or preach doesn't change the basic structure of what woody was doing. See?
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Words have meaning, Tiam. Don't parse out a word or two, to have a negative take.
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You're still reaching pretty damn hard
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Not searching hard at all.
I said basically. You and Tiam ignored "basically".
You libs do that to have a pseudo-legit point.
I use words for a reason.
You attempting to be marginalizing my points by parsing out particular words is nonsense.
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Not searching hard at all.
I said basically. You and Tiam ignored "basically".
You libs do that to have a pseudo-legit point.
I use words for a reason.
You attempting to be marginalizing my points by parsing out particular words is nonsense.
Not searching hard at all.
I said basically. You and Tiam ignored "basically".
You libs do that to have a pseudo-legit point.
I use words for a reason.
You attempting to be marginalizing my points by parsing out particular words is nonsense.
Easy with that 'lib' label being tossed around there, guy. Can't call a spade when there isn't one. That being said, I don't consider those on TV to be the better representation of Christianity. I consider those people on the tube to be hustlers.
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True, I take the lib thing back for you.
You're just contrary......
some have proven to be hustlers in the worst way.
Some, I still wonder if they are all there, to say it politely.
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Anybody ever see the movie Marjoe starring Marjo Gortner
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You know cal, for someone who continuously floods the political discussion board with negative post after post about "libs" and democrats in general, I find it rather audacious and hypocritical of you to be admonishing others about being too general in their critique of Christian televangelists.
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Anybody ever see the movie Marjoe starring Marjo Gortner
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Anybody ever see the movie Marjoe starring Marjo Gortner
WSS
Indeed I have, after I saw Christopher Hitchens briefly describe it in one of his books. It's highly disturbing about how his parents treated him as a child.
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