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  • They're just more open in their use of religion as a scam. They need to tone it down like they're supposed to...

    But you're right, these people don't prove the bible or Jesus wrong.

  • The content is different, but the logical structure of the argument is the same. I simply

    flipped the setup structurally, only I used engineers. Turnabout is fair play.

    @calfoxwc said:

    The content is different, but the logical structure of the argument is the same. I simply

    flipped the setup structurally, only I used engineers. Turnabout is fair play.

    Not at all. You have one group preying (no pun intended) on those looking for a miracle. The other group accidents of a colossal nature.

  • Yes. Different content. Same mo on generally dissing an entire group of people.

    Basically, the same structure. The title doesn't say

    "crazy nutjob evangelists taking advantage of goofy people who believe what they say"...

    it says evangelists.

    and I didn't say "crazy nutjob engineers taking advantage of goofy people who believe in what

    they design".

    Qubbling about the very end content/details doesn't make the basic logical structures

    stop being the same.

  • Yes. Different content. Same mo on generally dissing an entire group of people.

    Basically, the same structure. The title doesn't say

    "crazy nutjob evangelists taking advantage of goofy people who believe what they say"...

    it says evangelists.

    and I didn't say "crazy nutjob engineers taking advantage of goofy people who believe in what

    they design".

    Qubbling about the very end content/details doesn't make the basic logical structures

    stop being the same.

    @calfoxwc said:

    Yes. Different content. Same mo on generally dissing an entire group of people.

    Basically, the same structure. The title doesn't say

    "crazy nutjob evangelists taking advantage of goofy people who believe what they say"...

    it says evangelists.

    Actually, it says Televangelists.

    More to the point, why offer such a general rebuttal to an entire segment of people when Woody has highlighted with a video a particular few?

  • Because "televangelists", and Woody says it shows part of Christianity in a bad light.

    I personally don't call that Christianity. I've always wondered if they are conmen, or just plain

    not in their right minds, and/or have serious emotional issues.

    But it isn't just televangelists. There are all sorts of the same preachers who never get on tv.

    Maybe those engineers had serious emotional issues. Maybe they were just incompetent.

    But basically, woody is slurring Christianity with this element of dingbats on TV, always pleading for more money,

    etc etc etc.

    But the engineers were either totally incompetent, or they took a job for big, big money, knowing that they

    didn't have a clue how to successfully engineer what they engineered, but took advantage of those officials

    who hired them, not knowing any better.

    We don't really know. But basically, Woody posted this as a slur toward Christians in general, pointing out the

    worst.

    I posted, sarcastically, the same thing, basically. I posted as a slur to engineers in general, by pointing out the worst.

    To show a video of teachers, or lawyers, or doctors, in the same "worst of them" scenarios... and it's basically the same

    logical slur structure.

    Arguing that teachers don't engineer or preach doesn't change the basic structure of what woody was doing. See?

  • Words have meaning, Tiam. Don't parse out a word or two, to have a negative take.

    http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/basically

  • You're still reaching pretty damn hard

  • Not searching hard at all.

    I said basically. You and Tiam ignored "basically".

    You libs do that to have a pseudo-legit point.

    I use words for a reason.

    You attempting to be marginalizing my points by parsing out particular words is nonsense.

  • Not searching hard at all.

    I said basically. You and Tiam ignored "basically".

    You libs do that to have a pseudo-legit point.

    I use words for a reason.

    You attempting to be marginalizing my points by parsing out particular words is nonsense.

    @calfoxwc said:

    Not searching hard at all.

    I said basically. You and Tiam ignored "basically".

    You libs do that to have a pseudo-legit point.

    I use words for a reason.

    You attempting to be marginalizing my points by parsing out particular words is nonsense.

    Easy with that 'lib' label being tossed around there, guy. Can't call a spade when there isn't one. That being said, I don't consider those on TV to be the better representation of Christianity. I consider those people on the tube to be hustlers.

  • True, I take the lib thing back for you.

    You're just contrary......

    some have proven to be hustlers in the worst way.

    Some, I still wonder if they are all there, to say it politely.

  • Anybody ever see the movie Marjoe starring Marjo Gortner

    WSS

  • You know cal, for someone who continuously floods the political discussion board with negative post after post about "libs" and democrats in general, I find it rather audacious and hypocritical of you to be admonishing others about being too general in their critique of Christian televangelists.

  • Anybody ever see the movie Marjoe starring Marjo Gortner

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    Anybody ever see the movie Marjoe starring Marjo Gortner

    WSS

    Indeed I have, after I saw Christopher Hitchens briefly describe it in one of his books. It's highly disturbing about how his parents treated him as a child.

  • You know cal, for someone who continuously floods the political discussion board with negative post after post about "libs" and democrats in general, I find it rather audacious and hypocritical of you to be admonishing others about being too general in their critique of Christian televangelists. jblu

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    I have no idea what you are talking about. Where did I complain to libs about them being too general....

    what???????

    Go back and read again.

    I said

    "Qubbling about the very end content/details doesn't make the basic logical structures

    stop being the same."

    The point was, they were looking at the details of content, when I was talking about the

    basic logical structure. Of course the details are different. Actually, I was complaining

    that they were into details between televangelists and engineers, obviously completely different,

    when I was talking about why my sarcastic examples of engineers did the same thing -

    shed a bad light on an entire group. That's all.

  • Churches are already openly lobbying for policy. Tax em.

  • Wow Cal, jbluhm's post went right over your head. I think you missed his point completely

    And again, you're still reaching incredibly hard on the "point" you're trying to make. I posted a video that shined a light on some negative aspects of Christianity (conmen that parade as preachers [tho the whole thing is one big con] and the dumb/desperate/mindless followers that eat up the con). You didn't like that apparently, so you posted engineering disasters over the course of centuries. Apparently trying to equate thr two, though they aren't alike in any way. Other posters here seem to agree too.

    It was a desperate reach of an apparent attack of something I do. It pretty much failed spectacularly too. As much as you want the two to be the same, they aren't. Accidents aren't cons.

    Then you calling everyone a liberal that disagrees with you about anything is just the icing on the cake.

  • I testify...use this to cleanse your sins or get out of debt or cure cancer......truly one of gods gifts to you!!

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  • Really? I did.

    Anyway I did watch the video. There are some real assholes out there in the world of televangelism. And I think John Oliver is very good. As opposed to the shrike that took over for Colbert.

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    Really? I did.

    Anyway I did watch the video. There are some real assholes out there in the world of televangelism. And I think John Oliver is very good. As opposed to the shrike that took over for Colbert.

    WSS

    I also watched the video, and John Oliver is great.

    Was that Debbie Downer playing his wife?

  • Ha!! That video was hilarious/infuriating.