Justin Gilbert
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1st round 2014 is a wash. Deep breathe and jusy move along. Get past that, and we have a pretty great secondary. As for Jonathan Paul Manziel, who damn knows.. the guy could be the next Brees or the next Leaf. We wont know for a little while. Let the dude develope and go from there.
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I'm probably reading this wrong but it seems to me that it makes my point.
Negative reinforcement means that you are motivated to do whatever it is that will make the unpleasant situation stop. I.E. play better and people will stop bagging on how much you suck.
Negative reinforcement means that you are motivated to do whatever it is that will make the unpleasant situation stop. I.E. play better and people will stop bagging on how much you suck.
Right. And that doesn't work in a situation like this.
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So in the social media era there's no one. Thanks.
I am sure McNabb's Friendster had lots of disparaging comments on it. Good thing he rose above it.
I am sure McNabb's Friendster had lots of disparaging comments on it. Good thing he rose above it.
So still no examples. I rest my case.
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I am sure McNabb's Friendster had lots of disparaging comments on it. Good thing he rose above it.
So still no examples. I rest my case.
Your case is that Justin Gilbert is a pussy.So still no examples. I rest my case.
All of us agree.
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man i hope this kid turns it around just to see the shit some of you will say when he does, and the bullshit excuses you'll give.
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He was chosen as a number one selection in the Browns draft. Given the opportunity to start. Signed a nice contract. I don't know what else he wants? A cookie, and a glass of milk. Maybe a hug?
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It's fun to see Gilbert exhibiting the same joyous lack of self-awareness ["I'm Awesome! Always!"] as RG3.
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man i hope this kid turns it around just to see the shit some of you will say when he does, and the bullshit excuses you'll give.
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Defensive Back takes 5 years to learn or at least that's the company line in here.
As it stands the 2014 1st round for the Browns was another bust but no one will admit it until it's in the past.
Farmer talks a very good game but I am less than impressed.
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The upside is, the entire 2015 draft was freaking brilliant.
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Your case is that Justin Gilbert is a pussy.So still no examples. I rest my case.
All of us agree.
Your case is that Justin Gilbert is a pussy.
All of us agree.
My case is that the criticism of him only makes the situation worse, which hurts the Browns.
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Defensive Back takes 5 years to learn or at least that's the company line in here.
As it stands the 2014 1st round for the Browns was another bust but no one will admit it until it's in the past.
Farmer talks a very good game but I am less than impressed.
Defensive Back takes 5 years to learn or at least that's the company line in here.
As it stands the 2014 1st round for the Browns was another bust but no one will admit it until it's in the past.
Farmer talks a very good game but I am less than impressed.
Well Mud actually posted the numbers on that. For your side of the debate I see, well, nothing.
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Easy to do when you dismiss the argument made out of hand...
Why doesn't it work in a situation like this?
Easy to do when you dismiss the argument made out of hand...
Why doesn't it work in a situation like this?
Talking about McNabb's Friendster that did not exist or at a minimum wasn't relevant? You're smart enough to figure that out.
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Talking about McNabb's Friendster that did not exist or at a minimum wasn't relevant? You're smart enough to figure that out.
I think Tour was referring to the premise of negative reinforcement working. I was just being an asshole when I brought up McNabb and Friendster, Corky.
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man i hope this kid turns it around just to see the shit some of you will say when he does, and the bullshit excuses you'll give.
man i hope this kid turns it around just to see the shit some of you will say when he does, and the bullshit excuses you'll give.
Gotta admit, I put rose colored glasses on for guys almost to a fault. Gilbert has a knack for smudging those suckers. Here's why:
1) He can't tackle and that's not a good trait for one of our last tiers of defense. If he was the next Deion Sanders - we wouldn't have to worry about this too much because nobody would get open to where that mattered.
2) The Washington game this preseason showed me he still can get beat by an area code deep. After that, there was a completion near the sidelines where he had decent coverage; but didn't have the ability to get the guy out of bounds.Washington got the yac - we got the yuck. If he still doesn't understand hands and fingers doesn't work after 1 full year - I have to equate this with a 30 year old Weeden not understanding he could throw the ball out of bounds once he's outside the pocket.The 12th of Never isn't close enough to make this year's calendar.
Maybe I'm being unfair; but if Manziel was going to get blasted (and rightfully so) - the only way out is to prove your critics wrong with actions in lieu of words. Like you always said about Manziel Mik, it isn't like we want such an important pick to fail. We don't so a lot of us HOPE we're wrong with our gut. When I hear "he's gonna" it only reminds me "he hasn't." Pro Corners get beat all the time, it's how they respond after. As recently as the Washington game, that play on the sidelines where he couldn't even get the guy out of bounds didn't give me warm fuzzies. Think of how often corners are our last line of defense, so all the little things they do or refuse to do add up in a game. People can say what they want about Buster Skrine; but that young man could at least tackle people (even with an injured flipper) and provide good run support when necessary. To beat out Tramon or K'Wuan Williams for starting/situational reps - we need more than "I'm gonna" or "you'll see." I'll settle for "I see."
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Your case is that Justin Gilbert is a pussy.
All of us agree.
My case is that the criticism of him only makes the situation worse, which hurts the Browns.
So your case is that Justin Gilbert is a pussy.My case is that the criticism of him only makes the situation worse, which hurts the Browns.
We all agree.
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Your case is that Justin Gilbert is a pussy.
All of us agree.
My case is that the criticism of him only makes the situation worse, which hurts the Browns.
My case is that the criticism of him only makes the situation worse, which hurts the Browns.
If criticism from fans on social is hurting his play the criticism from coaches must be devastating.
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My case is that the criticism of him only makes the situation worse, which hurts the Browns.
If criticism from fans on social is hurting his play the criticism from coaches must be devastating.
If criticism from fans on social is hurting his play the criticism from coaches must be devastating.
Now, now. It's kittens, puppies and rainbows when speaking about Mr. Gilbert............... Lord knows we can't have any more mental setbacks.
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