Justin Gilbert
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He needs to rub the sand out of his vag, accept reality on reality's terms, and start doing everything the coaches say.
The more labels you have for yourself, the dumber they make you. "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." Paul Brown -
Defensive Back takes 5 years to learn or at least that's the company line in here.
As it stands the 2014 1st round for the Browns was another bust but no one will admit it until it's in the past.
Farmer talks a very good game but I am less than impressed.
Well Mud actually posted the numbers on that. For your side of the debate I see, well, nothing.
Well Mud actually posted the numbers on that. For your side of the debate I see, well, nothing.
A guy on a message board posted numbers to support the GM he likes, unprecedented.
Fuller and Roby did well last year as rookies
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He needs to rub the sand out of his vag, accept reality on reality's terms, and start doing everything the coaches say.
He needs to rub the sand out of his vag, accept reality on reality's terms, and start doing everything the coaches say.
there was a porn star back in the day who used to do her biz on the beach hence the name sandy crapper.
so you're going to tell me an up and coming safety in the nfl with a uni on get's sand in his vag? how is that possible?
now muscle grease or stickum but sand? get your story straight man cuz you lying out your holes.
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So your case is that Justin Gilbert is a pussy.My case is that the criticism of him only makes the situation worse, which hurts the Browns.
We all agree.
So your case is that Justin Gilbert is a pussy.
We all agree.
He's not immune to laws of human nature. So if that's your standard, all but maybe 1 or 2 guys on the team are "pussies."
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So your case is that Justin Gilbert is a pussy.
We all agree.
He's not immune to laws of human nature. So if that's your standard, all but maybe 1 or 2 guys on the team are "pussies."
He's not immune to laws of human nature. So if that's your standard, all but maybe 1 or 2 guys on the team are "pussies."
Let's just hope he erases all doubt during his window of opportunity here. So far, it's terrifying to see him out there playing grab ass and looking for for Waldo in man coverage. Cornerback seems like an instinctive trade. I heard at the Buffalo scrimmage, UDFA Andre Davis absolutely humiliated him. Again, we all want the kid to succeed. My biggest question with Gilbert is does he have the inner-chest to do all the little things that add up over a 60 minute game? For example, is the kind of corner willing to come up and tackle somebody in run support or come off a coverage to tackle a big TE finding a seam? One thing we've had here are corners that tackle well. This concern about Gilbert's tackling goes all the way back to pre-draft scouting reports.
At 1 time, I thought it would be awful if he didn't pan out. Now that I've seen us find an undrafted gem like K'Wuan Williams as well as sign a FA like Tramon Williams - good karma has already been taken care of. There's also other promising young corners here like Gaines, Desir and others.
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He doesn't have it. Cut him.
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He needs to rub the sand out of his vag, accept reality on reality's terms, and start doing everything the coaches say.
there was a porn star back in the day who used to do her biz on the beach hence the name sandy crapper.
so you're going to tell me an up and coming safety in the nfl with a uni on get's sand in his vag? how is that possible?
now muscle grease or stickum but sand? get your story straight man cuz you lying out your holes.
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He's not immune to laws of human nature. So if that's your standard, all but maybe 1 or 2 guys on the team are "pussies."
Let's just hope he erases all doubt during his window of opportunity here. So far, it's terrifying to see him out there playing grab ass and looking for for Waldo in man coverage. Cornerback seems like an instinctive trade. I heard at the Buffalo scrimmage, UDFA Andre Davis absolutely humiliated him. Again, we all want the kid to succeed. My biggest question with Gilbert is does he have the inner-chest to do all the little things that add up over a 60 minute game? For example, is the kind of corner willing to come up and tackle somebody in run support or come off a coverage to tackle a big TE finding a seam? One thing we've had here are corners that tackle well. This concern about Gilbert's tackling goes all the way back to pre-draft scouting reports.
At 1 time, I thought it would be awful if he didn't pan out. Now that I've seen us find an undrafted gem like K'Wuan Williams as well as sign a FA like Tramon Williams - good karma has already been taken care of. There's also other promising young corners here like Gaines, Desir and others.
Let's just hope he erases all doubt during his window of opportunity here. So far, it's terrifying to see him out there playing grab ass and looking for for Waldo in man coverage. Cornerback seems like an instinctive trade. I heard at the Buffalo scrimmage, UDFA Andre Davis absolutely humiliated him. Again, we all want the kid to succeed. My biggest question with Gilbert is does he have the inner-chest to do all the little things that add up over a 60 minute game? For example, is the kind of corner willing to come up and tackle somebody in run support or come off a coverage to tackle a big TE finding a seam? One thing we've had here are corners that tackle well. This concern about Gilbert's tackling goes all the way back to pre-draft scouting reports.
At 1 time, I thought it would be awful if he didn't pan out. Now that I've seen us find an undrafted gem like K'Wuan Williams as well as sign a FA like Tramon Williams - good karma has already been taken care of. There's also other promising young corners here like Gaines, Desir and others.
I get it, I really do. But I think the negative perception of him causes his few poor plays to be magnified. He was not nearly as bad last year as pretty much everyone here except Mud thinks, so I do have faith that in the regular season he's going to prove himself. I really do.
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Let's just hope he erases all doubt during his window of opportunity here. So far, it's terrifying to see him out there playing grab ass and looking for for Waldo in man coverage. Cornerback seems like an instinctive trade. I heard at the Buffalo scrimmage, UDFA Andre Davis absolutely humiliated him. Again, we all want the kid to succeed. My biggest question with Gilbert is does he have the inner-chest to do all the little things that add up over a 60 minute game? For example, is the kind of corner willing to come up and tackle somebody in run support or come off a coverage to tackle a big TE finding a seam? One thing we've had here are corners that tackle well. This concern about Gilbert's tackling goes all the way back to pre-draft scouting reports.
At 1 time, I thought it would be awful if he didn't pan out. Now that I've seen us find an undrafted gem like K'Wuan Williams as well as sign a FA like Tramon Williams - good karma has already been taken care of. There's also other promising young corners here like Gaines, Desir and others.
I get it, I really do. But I think the negative perception of him causes his few poor plays to be magnified. He was not nearly as bad last year as pretty much everyone here except Mud thinks, so I do have faith that in the regular season he's going to prove himself. I really do.
I get it, I really do. But I think the negative perception of him causes his few poor plays to be magnified. He was not nearly as bad last year as pretty much everyone here except Mud thinks, so I do have faith that in the regular season he's going to prove himself. I really do.
Fine, but understand that this goes back to Flugel's original point:
"When I hear "he's gonna" it only reminds me "he hasn't." "
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Well the regular season hasn't happened yet so that would be kind of impossible.
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It's like talking to Retard. You are right and everyone else, including the coaching staff, is wrong.
Gilbert came in here as our #8 pick in the first round with an immature, shit attitude. By the end of the year
he was being called out by respected veterans because of his arrogance, immaturity, and general
unprofessional approach towards the game. So far this season, he has had a poor showing against Washington
and by all accounts a horrific week against Buffalo.
Surely you understand that Cleveland fans are tired of the excuses and simply want to see some sort of return on
the investment.
And I'll stop calling you Shirley...
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So your case is that Justin Gilbert is a pussy.
We all agree.
He's not immune to laws of human nature. So if that's your standard, all but maybe 1 or 2 guys on the team are "pussies."
He's not immune to laws of human nature. So if that's your standard, all but maybe 1 or 2 guys on the team are "pussies."
Are the laws of human nature "let what people say on social media affect your job performance"?
Because, if so, I've yet to find one person in my life who follows that supposed law of human nature.
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Gaines was until his hammie happened...
There comes a point when you have to say "pass" to promise/potential and take production.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Gaines was until his hammie happened...
There comes a point when you have to say "pass" to promise/potential and take production.
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For the knocks I saw on Gaines tape during the draft process, credit this coaching staff for taking advantage of his strengths and cleaning up his footwork.
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The question I have about Gilbert in this team game thing here is this: is he going to be willing to go above and beyond his primary responsibility? For example, a throw is completed to a big TE who is not Gilbert's guy. However Gilbert now is in decent position to tackle the TE heading toward an exploitable seam nearby.
What does your gut tell he is going to do:
1) Say "F--- it! Not my guy/problem!"
2) Do what Skrine or Haden would always do by hustling into position to plant a shoulder, wrap and drive through the man.
3) Find the perfect excuse to slip or dive to avoid contact.
4) Grab so it at least appears he attempted to stop the guy.
I feel bad saying this but I don't have enough evidence to think he'd consider #2 above. A classic example of the difference between a guy that does the little things vrs a guy that puts I before team is Webster Slaughter on the Fumble. Here's a play where if Webster didn't want to block Jeremiah Castille - he could at least set a passive pic to prevent him the opportunity of stripping Byner of the football at the one. While that doesn't excuse how Byner was holding the football on that play - the refusal to do just 1 little thing was the difference between putting that playoff game in overtime and ending it with the type of disappointment it ended in. Games that close boil down to the little things. And Gilbert doesn't have my trust until he shows me it. Trust me when I say I'd love to have it. That said, I think we're talented and deep enough at corner to the extent Gilbert might not get any playing time or possibly a spot on the roster if he's not showing the coaches what he can do every day in practice.
Both Gilbert and Manziel have learned that this is finally the level where just being talented isn't enough to show up and be successful any more. They're at the point where if they fail to prepare - they should prepare to fail. We'll see how it plays out...
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JFF will make it. Gilbert a failure.
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Gilbert's one positive:
Kid has a hell of a snatch.
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He's not immune to laws of human nature. So if that's your standard, all but maybe 1 or 2 guys on the team are "pussies."
Are the laws of human nature "let what people say on social media affect your job performance"?
Because, if so, I've yet to find one person in my life who follows that supposed law of human nature.
Are the laws of human nature "let what people say on social media affect your job performance"?
Because, if so, I've yet to find one person in my life who follows that supposed law of human nature.
People insulting you don't increase your desire to succeed for them.
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