Browns Draft Strategy beginning in 2016
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Farmer refuses to draft WR's in a league that "WANTS" passing.
"And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve." -
Farmer refuses to draft WR's in a league that "WANTS" passing.
In a league that also WANTS elite QB play. Drafting top 10 receivers and having a very average QB do not a good combination make.
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Farmer refuses to draft WR's in a league that "WANTS" passing.
In a league that also WANTS elite QB play. Drafting top 10 receivers and having a very average QB do not a good combination make.
In a league that also WANTS elite QB play. Drafting top 10 receivers and having a very average QB do not a good combination make.
Easier to get WRs than QBs
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Easier to get WRs than QBs
I agree.
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Farmer refuses to draft WR's in a league that "WANTS" passing.
In a league that also WANTS elite QB play. Drafting top 10 receivers and having a very average QB do not a good combination make.
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You build the team around them, then get that elite qb,
and elite wr.
The Browns in years past have tried it the other way around.
It does not work.
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You build the team around them, then get that elite qb,
and elite wr.
The Browns in years past have tried it the other way around.
It does not work.
You build the team around them, then get that elite qb,
and elite wr.
The Browns in years past have tried it the other way around.
It does not work.
Not really man.
They tried building the team by drafting Brown, Warren, Edwards, Winslow, Faine, Greene, Wimbley, etc.
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Not really man.
They tried building the team by drafting Brown, Warren, Edwards, Winslow, Faine, Greene, Wimbley, etc.
Who were all at the top of their classes coming out of college.
Hindsight is 20/20.
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Evaluating right now Bitonio looks solid and I still don't want to give up on West but other than that nothing stellar. Kirksey has been ok. Gilbert and Manziel are horrible and Desir really hasn't played. The 2015 class hasn't played a down in the real NFL yet so not fair to evaluate them.
Evaluating right now Bitonio looks solid and I still don't want to give up on West but other than that nothing stellar. Kirksey has been ok. Gilbert and Manziel are horrible and Desir really hasn't played. The 2015 class hasn't played a down in the real NFL yet so not fair to evaluate them.
Manziel is horrible after less than 16 games as a starter. Haha...
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Easier to get WRs than QBs
I won't disagree, my point is why have a Ferrari when you can only drive during rush hour?
Having elite receivers but a QB that can't distribute the ball as effectively is a minimal return on investment at best.
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Hey, the Hope diamond is cursed too...
Farmer has clearly shown he has the people and process to evaluate talent and see it where others do not. Where his organization has missed to date is in evaluating desire/drive and introspection. Especially the latter lies in the first rounds of the draft.
Gilbert doesn't have introspection... may never have it.
Johnny did not have introspection... may have found it.
West appears to be too "content" to be great.
Tate appeared to have issues with insecurity... similar to introspection in that it's a personality thing.
It appears that it's hard to spot the lack of these qualities.
It has to be hard, really hard as the list of failures throughout the league is too long to list.
So in that light, Farmer's not looking too bad so far... If JM pulls through Farm has a shot at batting .750 in Round 1.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
BaconHound and whoever, the thing is our receivers are actually pretty good. And I'm gonna say this on every thread bashing them until they get their due credit.
I've been wanting to start a 2016 draft needs thread but i don't think anyone wants to discuss yet.
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I wonder how many fans blew their choice on which jersey to buy? LOL
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Next year use the Magic 8 Ball.
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Not really man.
They tried building the team by drafting Brown, Warren, Edwards, Winslow, Faine, Greene, Wimbley, etc. Walter
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"Number of offensive linemen drafted by the Browns since 1999: 10 — seven tackles (including Bitonio, who played tackle in college), eight guards and four centers.Number of first-round offensive linemen since 1999: Three: One tackle (Thomas) and two centers (Mack and Jeff Faine)."
In recent history, they have only drafted two offensive linemen in the first round, not includinglast year, with Irving, who was a great pick.Sure, Jeff Faine was a great pick - but he was drafted in 2003, and freakin traded to the Saintsin 2006. And the Browns signed Lecharles Bentley, who walked away from the Saints, and wouldn'tplay for them anymore. We know how that went. Faine was great for the Saints.And Joe Thomas was from 2007. Alex Mack - 2009And Schwartz at right tackle, 2012, 2nd round. It took a long time to build this terrific offensive line.
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Easier to get WRs than QBs
I won't disagree, my point is why have a Ferrari when you can only drive during rush hour?
Having elite receivers but a QB that can't distribute the ball as effectively is a minimal return on investment at best.
I won't disagree, my point is why have a Ferrari when you can only drive during rush hour?
Having elite receivers but a QB that can't distribute the ball as effectively is a minimal return on investment at best.
I also agree but we keep drafting bums, Sammy Watkins or Justin Gilbert? Barkeivous Mingo?
I won't comment about Shelton but if he turns out to be a solid defensive lineman and not a real difference maker we'll chalk that up to another miss,
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BaconHound and whoever, the thing is our receivers are actually pretty good. And I'm gonna say this on every thread bashing them until they get their due credit.
I've been wanting to start a 2016 draft needs thread but i don't think anyone wants to discuss yet.
BaconHound and whoever, the thing is our receivers are actually pretty good. And I'm gonna say this on every thread bashing them until they get their due credit.
I've been wanting to start a 2016 draft needs thread but i don't think anyone wants to discuss yet.
We don't have a receiver on our roster that would be a number 1 on any other team except for possibly the Panthers because Benjamin got hurt. And on many teams Detroit, Indy, Giants, Broncos, etc wouldn't be their #2.
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BaconHound and whoever, the thing is our receivers are actually pretty good. And I'm gonna say this on every thread bashing them until they get their due credit.
I've been wanting to start a 2016 draft needs thread but i don't think anyone wants to discuss yet.
We don't have a receiver on our roster that would be a number 1 on any other team except for possibly the Panthers because Benjamin got hurt. And on many teams Detroit, Indy, Giants, Broncos, etc wouldn't be their #2.
Dwayne Bowe would likely be a #1 for Jacksonville. Maybe New England, they like old former #1 WRs.We don't have a receiver on our roster that would be a number 1 on any other team except for possibly the Panthers because Benjamin got hurt. And on many teams Detroit, Indy, Giants, Broncos, etc wouldn't be their #2.
Pryor would be a #1 for any team. Wait and see.
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Dwayne Bowe would likely be a #1 for Jacksonville. Maybe New England, they like old former #1 WRs.We don't have a receiver on our roster that would be a number 1 on any other team except for possibly the Panthers because Benjamin got hurt. And on many teams Detroit, Indy, Giants, Broncos, etc wouldn't be their #2.
Pryor would be a #1 for any team. Wait and see.
Dwayne Bowe would likely be a #1 for Jacksonville. Maybe New England, they like old former #1 WRs.
Pryor would be a #1 for any team. Wait and see.
Puff Puff pass dude!
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