Jonathan Paul Manziel
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High draft pick here we come!
Suddenly those 4-12 predictions don't look so far-fetched.
Wow....our back up(who has never done anything anyway) has a sore elbow and all of sudden our season is down the tubes?????...
Maybe Im missing your points, but right now and compared to last season, our starter AND our back up(Lewis) look MUCH better than what we had last season.....which was 7-9....
Heck, based on what Ive seen so far, I expect McCown to be as good or better than Hoyer....and IF he goes down....I expect Thad to be better than JFF was....
So, how do we get worse, when we have 2 QB's who are playing better than the ones we had last year????
Really.....Just a week or 2 ago, everyone was excited because Johnny was playing better, but now that he has some soreness in his arm and they decide to rest him.....all of a sudden.....everyone thinks he's injury prone, or his elbow is gonna be a life long problem, or we should just give up and trade him for RGIII....
smfh.....
Wow....our back up(who has never done anything anyway) has a sore elbow and all of sudden our season is down the tubes?????...
Maybe Im missing your points, but right now and compared to last season, our starter AND our back up(Lewis) look MUCH better than what we had last season.....which was 7-9....
Heck, based on what Ive seen so far, I expect McCown to be as good or better than Hoyer....and IF he goes down....I expect Thad to be better than JFF was....
So, how do we get worse, when we have 2 QB's who are playing better than the ones we had last year????
Really.....Just a week or 2 ago, everyone was excited because Johnny was playing better, but now that he has some soreness in his arm and they decide to rest him.....all of a sudden.....everyone thinks he's injury prone, or his elbow is gonna be a life long problem, or we should just give up and trade him for RGIII....
smfh.....
My comments were based on JM going to PUP which would mean no practice and no games 6 weeks into the season. I totally disagree wiith putting him on PUP for the exact reasons Dste Ace stated above. McCown won't last 6 weeks with 3 hits a week like those last Sat. and TL was not even beating out CS.
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Wow....our back up(who has never done anything anyway) has a sore elbow and all of sudden our season is down the tubes?????...
Maybe Im missing your points, but right now and compared to last season, our starter AND our back up(Lewis) look MUCH better than what we had last season.....which was 7-9....
Heck, based on what Ive seen so far, I expect McCown to be as good or better than Hoyer....and IF he goes down....I expect Thad to be better than JFF was....
So, how do we get worse, when we have 2 QB's who are playing better than the ones we had last year????
Really.....Just a week or 2 ago, everyone was excited because Johnny was playing better, but now that he has some soreness in his arm and they decide to rest him.....all of a sudden.....everyone thinks he's injury prone, or his elbow is gonna be a life long problem, or we should just give up and trade him for RGIII....
smfh.....
My comments were based on JM going to PUP which would mean no practice and no games 6 weeks into the season. I totally disagree wiith putting him on PUP for the exact reasons Dste Ace stated above. McCown won't last 6 weeks with 3 hits a week like those last Sat. and TL was not even beating out CS.
My comments were based on JM going to PUP which would mean no practice and no games 6 weeks into the season. I totally disagree wiith putting him on PUP for the exact reasons Dste Ace stated above. McCown won't last 6 weeks with 3 hits a week like those last Sat. and TL was not even beating out CS.
Yeah, I agree...he wont be going to the PUP...
All I hear is he was clean on the MRI and is resting the arm.....my money says he could play if we needed him to.....
And, if not, I stand by my comparison to last pre-season, in that we are in better shape now than we were then....
A couple more hits like he took against TB and McCown will be sitting on the bench, staring vacantly
into space.
Sorry, but the last 15 years of The Smell of Ass that has been Browns football has left me a glass half-empty guy.
No need to be sorry....thats your problem, not mine.....
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RE: Johnnys pressy today.....
He said he's had this for several years, but it is(and has been) very manageable.....could play today if asked...
Just sore....Just resting....no underlying conspiracy to hide a bigger problem....
RE: Johnnys pressy today.....
He said he's had this for several years, but it is(and has been) very manageable.....could play today if asked...
Just sore....Just resting....no underlying conspiracy to hide a bigger problem....
Thats what I figured. The usual Cleveland panic mode sets in.
"You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.β - Janis Joplin, 1970. -
I base my comments on what I've seen so far this preseason.
A couple more hits like he took against TB and McCown will be sitting on the bench, staring vacantly
into space. The Browns are counting on McCown to be the man this season.
JM has looked much better this season, but now his elbow is a question. Which brings us to
Thad Lewis, who until recently was fighting Connor Shaw for playing time.
Sorry, but the last 15 years of The Smell of Ass that has been Browns football has left me a glass half-empty guy.
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RE: Johnnys pressy today.....
He said he's had this for several years, but it is(and has been) very manageable.....could play today if asked...
Just sore....Just resting....no underlying conspiracy to hide a bigger problem....
Thats what I figured. The usual Cleveland panic mode sets in.
Thats what I figured. The usual Cleveland panic mode sets in.
Panic would imply that Browns fans are relying on JFF. Honestly, at this point JFF is an afterthought for Browns fans (except unless any of them work for ESPN).
There is no reliance on or expectation of contribution to the Browns by JFF this year.
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From Petine at presser: On an update on QB Johnny Manziel
and when he might resume throwing:βYeah, heβs close. I just spoke with (head athletic trainer) Joe Sheehan about that, that heβs where we thought he would be in the progression and that weβre confident by the end of the week that heβll be able to handle the football and throw it.β
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Thats what I figured. The usual Cleveland panic mode sets in.
Panic would imply that Browns fans are relying on JFF. Honestly, at this point JFF is an afterthought for Browns fans (except unless any of them work for ESPN).
There is no reliance on or expectation of contribution to the Browns by JFF this year.
Panic would imply that Browns fans are relying on JFF. Honestly, at this point JFF is an afterthought for Browns fans (except unless any of them work for ESPN).
There is no reliance on or expectation of contribution to the Browns by JFF this year.
Maybe for you, but for many others there is.
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From Petine at presser: On an update on QB Johnny Manziel
and when he might resume throwing:βYeah, heβs close. I just spoke with (head athletic trainer) Joe Sheehan about that, that heβs where we thought he would be in the progression and that weβre confident by the end of the week that heβll be able to handle the football and throw it.β
From Petine at presser: On an update on QB Johnny Manziel
and when he might resume throwing:Yeah, hes close. I just spoke with (head athletic trainer) Joe Sheehan about that, that hes where we thought he would be in the progression and that were confident by the end of the week that hell be able to handle the football and throw it.
Wow, handle a football and maybe even throw it.
Zombo
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The start to finish of this thread is hilarious
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LOL! Even with doing everything right a sore elbow still polarizes folks.
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LOL! Even with doing everything right a sore elbow still polarizes folks.
LOL! Even with doing everything right a sore elbow still polarizes folks.
We weren't expecting him to beat out a journeyman, but being able to "handle a football" going into final cuts would have been nice.
Why the fuck is a 5'11 quarterback throwing sidearm anyway ... has anybody ever actually coached this kid?
Z
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Some of y'all need remedial reading... badly...
The way I read the rule is that in order to get to the Regular season PUP list you have to have been on the pre-season PUP list. Here was my first clue...
"A player who finishes the preseason still on the PUP list can then be placed on the regular-season PUP list."
But... "A player cannot be placed on the (Pre-season) PUP list, however, once he has taken the field for a practice, even if only for a few minutes."
So forget the PUP... only option would be the IR designated return.... and no way are we doing that.
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LOL! Even with doing everything right a sore elbow still polarizes folks.
LOL! Even with doing everything right a sore elbow still polarizes folks.
Maybe the elbow finally "dried out"...
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LOL! Even with doing everything right a sore elbow still polarizes folks.
Maybe the elbow finally "dried out"...
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Some of y'all need remedial reading... badly...
The way I read the rule is that in order to get to the Regular season PUP list you have to have been on the pre-season PUP list. Here was my first clue...
"A player who finishes the preseason still on the PUP list can then be placed on the regular-season PUP list."
But... "A player cannot be placed on the (Pre-season) PUP list, however, once he has taken the field for a practice, even if only for a few minutes."
So forget the PUP... only option would be the IR designated return.... and no way are we doing that.
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No its not. He will play and turn it around.
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No its not. He will play and turn it around.
No its not. He will play and turn it around.
Well I'm rooting for him, but the team comes first. The plan is for him to backup. I think Lewis can backup just as well. So if there are any issues going forward that he can't play or practice because of this elbow issue, shut him down for 8 weeks, Lewis can do his job.
Just don't keep three QBs and cost one of these promising young guys a roster spot, only for them to go tear it up somewhere else.
Zombo
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