Browns Draft Strategy beginning in 2016
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Puff Puff pass dude!
There's a reason they haven't cut him even though he's played 0 snaps so far.
There's a reason they haven't cut him even though he's played 0 snaps so far.
Cause the team stinks.
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There are a lot of teams that wanted Pryor if he would agree to convert to a TE or WR. He is an elite athlete with tremendous upside at WR AND can serve as the best emergency QB a team could have. Hell there is a chance he is the best QB we have. He is going to make this team for sure.
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There's a reason they haven't cut him even though he's played 0 snaps so far.
Cause the team stinks.
Cause the team stinks.
If only we had you calling the shots.
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Farmer blew it in the first round last year passing on Khalil Mack, Mike Evans and could have had Garapollo, Carr or Bridgewater
But it's passed. I do like Shelton, Erving, Cooper, and Gaines and believe next year will be the year of Cardale Jones and a wide receiver.
So far, Kevin White and Davanta Parker would have done us no good. So someone light a fire under Dwane Bowe because he looked bad against Tampa.
Memo to Pettine: Let Crowell carry the rock! Stop rotating with West and let Crowell get into a rhythm! And then use Duke Johnson like Sproles and Vereen. If Duke ever gets on the field.
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BaconHound and whoever, the thing is our receivers are actually pretty good. And I'm gonna say this on every thread bashing them until they get their due credit.
I've been wanting to start a 2016 draft needs thread but i don't think anyone wants to discuss yet.
We don't have a receiver on our roster that would be a number 1 on any other team except for possibly the Panthers because Benjamin got hurt. And on many teams Detroit, Indy, Giants, Broncos, etc wouldn't be their #2.
We don't have a receiver on our roster that would be a number 1 on any other team except for possibly the Panthers because Benjamin got hurt. And on many teams Detroit, Indy, Giants, Broncos, etc wouldn't be their #2.
Well since Hawkins, as a slot guy, isn't eligible to be a #1, you can't compare. He is easily a top 10 slit guy in the league. And our guys aren't good because we have a great 1, they're good because we've got three guys who would be 2s, despite your disbelief. I posted it before, Gabriel was a top 20 receiver last year. You would rather loathe in misery than look at it.
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Farmer blew it in the first round last year passing on Khalil Mack, Mike Evans and could have had Garapollo, Carr or Bridgewater
But it's passed. I do like Shelton, Erving, Cooper, and Gaines and believe next year will be the year of Cardale Jones and a wide receiver.
So far, Kevin White and Davanta Parker would have done us no good. So someone light a fire under Dwane Bowe because he looked bad against Tampa.
Memo to Pettine: Let Crowell carry the rock! Stop rotating with West and let Crowell get into a rhythm! And then use Duke Johnson like Sproles and Vereen. If Duke ever gets on the field.
Slit guy? I think you're thinking of West...
Farmer blew it in the first round last year passing on Khalil Mack, Mike Evans and could have had Garapollo, Carr or Bridgewater
Memo to Pettine: Let Crowell carry the rock! Stop rotating with West and let Crowell get into a rhythm!
Focus on the road ahead, not the rearview mirror... I know Mack makes it difficult, but concentrate...
Pre-season is made for rotations so you can see backs behind the same line and against the same D. Regular season will feature one or the other, but unless one really takes control, expect to see the lead back change week-to-week as it did last year.
The Practice rule will still be in effect.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
same people crying the same shoulda woulda coulda song.
yeah you shoulda went to school. if so, you woulda become somebody, even famous. coulda you please pass the courvoisier?
now STFU please.
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Farmer refuses to draft WR's in a league that "WANTS" passing.
They tried building the team by drafting Brown, Warren, Edwards, Winslow, Faine, Greene, Wimbley, etc.
I also agree but we keep drafting bums
We don't have a receiver on our roster that would be a number 1
Farmer blew it in the first round last year
the team stinks.
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MUD NAILED IT !!! LOL.
For further information about how to handle
the whiners on the board:
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2016 will be the first year that I'm all in on a top QB in the draft. The WR's will be just fine next year - we need a QB. 2017 we can draft a round1 WR and a round2 OL.
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2016 will be the first year that I'm all in on a top QB in the draft. The WR's will be just fine next year - we need a QB. 2017 we can draft a round1 WR and a round2 OL.
2016 will be the first year that I'm all in on a top QB in the draft. The WR's will be just fine next year - we need a QB. 2017 we can draft a round1 WR and a round2 OL.
why wouldn't we be able to draft all 3 next year?
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Evaluating right now Bitonio looks solid and I still don't want to give up on West but other than that nothing stellar. Kirksey has been ok. Gilbert and Manziel are horrible and Desir really hasn't played. The 2015 class hasn't played a down in the real NFL yet so not fair to evaluate them.
Evaluating right now Bitonio looks solid and I still don't want to give up on West but other than that nothing stellar. Kirksey has been ok. Gilbert and Manziel are horrible and Desir really hasn't played. The 2015 class hasn't played a down in the real NFL yet so not fair to evaluate them.
I have Desir at close to 100 snaps last year with a positive grade. He can play.
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BaconHound and whoever, the thing is our receivers are actually pretty good. And I'm gonna say this on every thread bashing them until they get their due credit.
I've been wanting to start a 2016 draft needs thread but i don't think anyone wants to discuss yet.
We don't have a receiver on our roster that would be a number 1 on any other team except for possibly the Panthers because Benjamin got hurt. And on many teams Detroit, Indy, Giants, Broncos, etc wouldn't be their #2.
We don't have a receiver on our roster that would be a number 1 on any other team except for possibly the Panthers because Benjamin got hurt. And on many teams Detroit, Indy, Giants, Broncos, etc wouldn't be their #2.
But we also don't have the likes of Stafford, Luck, or the Manning sisters on our roster.
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Easier to get WRs than QBs
I won't disagree, my point is why have a Ferrari when you can only drive during rush hour?
Having elite receivers but a QB that can't distribute the ball as effectively is a minimal return on investment at best.
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So tired of the wailing and moaning and gnashing of teeth over the WR spot. This team is deep at WR, and there are still so many things we don't know about this group. These guys can get open and catch the ball, I'm fine with that.
Furthermore, the Browns scored 16 touchdowns with a middle tier free agent and two rookies. Crowell scored 8 TDs as an UDFA. For a team that lost their prob owl center, that's pretty good.
I hear guys on the radio say shit like "the Browns might win 3 games this year" and it really blows my mind. This team is better and deeper than it was a year ago and we are supposed to believe that Cleveland was better off with Weeden, Massoquai, Little, Bess, McGahee etc.
Do people go to a steak house and say "that was one hell of a steak, but the parsley was gross! This entree might win three or four games..."
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So we have 4 compensatory picks right? Lost Cameron, Skrine, Sheard, Hoyer, Rubin, and Austin but added Housler (yikes) and Williams.
Over The Cap projects us with 3 5th round compensatory picks and one in the 7th. We all THOUGHT that this (2015) draft would be the one we would draft less guys than we had picks for going on, but we ended up drafting MORE. So you would think this year they'll finally go with just a select few guys.
Wish list:
1. QB-So, any of the following scenarios could happen:
A. Johnny plays, we draft a QB
B. Johnny doesn't play, we draft a QB
C. Johnny plays, we don't draft a QB
D. Johnny doesn't play, we don't draft a QB
The possibilities are endless because he could play and do well enough to warrant not taking a QB or he could suck and we have to take one. Or McCown does well enough that Johnny doesn't play BUT the staff still likes his progress and feels we don't need a QB.
Of course all this analysis is further muddied by the fact that some in the office may feel that this is a once-every-few-years type of QB class. Moving on...
CONTINGENT ON: Staff's view of Manziel's development (whether he plays or not), McCown's play (if he plays well then maybe we think we can wait a year), how the board breaks (are there any decent QBs left when we pick), and lastly, whether a defensive position becomes an absolute NEED due to this or that.
2. Elite OLB-I'm either taking an OLB in the 1st round (ie we don't draft a QB OR we have two 1st rounders again) or not until later in the draft. OLB is contingent on QB, but also on how well our guys do this year. Orchard, Solomon, etc. may show well enough to make this pick unnecessary.
CONTINGENT ON: The play of Mingo, Orchard, and Solomon, whether we need a QB or not.
3. DE-I'm good with one in the 2nd round. This need can also be negated by the play of our guys this year (I suppose they all can).
CONTINGENT ON: The performance of Cooper and the Bryant's.
4. WR-I'm good with one in either of the first 2 rounds. I'm only taking one in the 1st if I have good QB play this year. IF that happens, then this probably probably shoots up to #1, as we can field a great defense without adding a top flight DE or OLB, but a great receiver could be a big difference maker with the offensive tools we already have (again only IF the QB looks good).
CONTINGENT ON: Us not needing a QB, whether a defensive position becomes an absolute NEED, the play of Pryor, and how the staff feels about Gordon.
5. Pick em, RB/TE/S-If our backs are average again, take a RB in the first three rounds. Hopefully none are taken in the 1st round as in 2013 and 2014.
If our TEs don't prove themselves, take a TE in the first three. Same with Campbell/other young safeties. Gotta have someone ready to replace Whitner in due time.
CONTINGENT ON: Performance at those positions.
Non-needs (this isn't to say don't draft one at all, but no need to use a high pick on one):
1. OL-Right?
2. ILB-Dansby is getting older but I love what we have in Kirksey and Robertson
3. DT-Danny Shelton, nuff said
4. CB
5. FB-Maybe it becomes a need (though doubtful), but you're not using anywhere near a top pick on one
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Farmer got his own scouts in place after the JM and Gilbert draft. Hope we all see what we got on paper for this season including our 2 first rounder's. This looks promising to me and a lot of our selections were from a new scout out west. I feel 2016 will be all about fixing the other side of the ball on Offense and Cal's QB Goff and others will be scouted and 1 or 2 Feature WR will be our two top positions targeted and am not counting on J. Gordon being on this team 2016.
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Well if he ditched the 2014 draft scouts that would be sad. At least if they had anything to do with K'Waun, Crowell, Desir, Gabriel, etc.
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