Jonathan Paul Manziel
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Lucky Crow was peaking, if not that's a pbu or int. Tiam
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The word you meant to use was "peeking". Not "peaking"
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but his loudmouth arrogant mistakes are well deserved, and glaring.
Merril Hoge admits he was wrong on Tim Tebow -...www.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/22475988/33852245Dec 12, 2011 · Eye on Football - Merril Hoge admits he was wrong on Tim Tebow
http://the5gh.com/2014/03/19/espn-analysts-make-mistakes-still-no-humility/
"An honest opinion many other people and analysts might share but we are not too sure Hoge should be the voice of reason on quarterbacks.
1. Merril never played the position
2. Merril believed Brian Brohm would be better than Aaron Rodgers"but his loudmouth arrogant mistakes are well deserved, and glaring.
Merril Hoge admits he was wrong on Tim Tebow -...www.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/22475988/33852245Dec 12, 2011 · Eye on Football - Merril Hoge admits he was wrong on Tim Tebow
http://the5gh.com/2014/03/19/espn-analysts-make-mistakes-still-no-humility/
"An honest opinion many other people and analysts might share but we are not too sure Hoge should be the voice of reason on quarterbacks.
1. Merril never played the position
2. Merril believed Brian Brohm would be better than Aaron Rodgers"
It's not that I'm calling Hoge a great eye for talent at the QB position, he's be wrong before but at least he has owned that.
To date, there is little to indicated he'll be wrong about Manziel.
edit: Hoge wasn't wrong about Tebow either. How did Timmy fare after that defense carried his ass to the play offs
while asking him to make a play only here and there?
So the guy is 2 for 3, basically.
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Until the Browns play him a full season, the jury will stay out on whether he will be the QB for the Browns or not. He has two things to work on now the way I see it. #1 is ball security. And the other is the patience enough not to have to score every possession. The second for JM will be the hardest because he has had to score frequently his entire playing career. The best thing the Browns can do is fix this broken D. I did not like what I saw out there in game 1.
Until the Browns play him a full season, the jury will stay out on whether he will be the QB for the Browns or not. He has two things to work on now the way I see it. #1 is ball security. And the other is the patience enough not to have to score every possession. The second for JM will be the hardest because he has had to score frequently his entire playing career. The best thing the Browns can do is fix this broken D. I did not like what I saw out there in game 1.
I agree but as long as McCown is the qb giving us the best chance to win we have to go with him. Regardless of the qb though the offense has to get their running backs gaining some yards and not depend on the qb's for a running game. Defense was a disappointment against the Jets and it will be interesting to see how they do this week. I'm betting we see much improvement.
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just don't fumble the reigns.
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Seriously though, a big performance here, and there'll be question marks a plenty heading in to week 3.
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And the JFF era begins.....
"You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970. -
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Well at least this year we're polarized over his play on the field...
All I am saying is that my early, first viewing estimate of the improvement JM displayed in Game 1 was vastly over stated. I haven't given up hope, but I'd be lying if I said that the elbow development did not concern me. How can a developing QB develop if he has to be put on a pitch count? And JM still has a very long way to go...
What JM did well were the hot reads. I think he was 3 for 3 in finding the target left by the blitzing DB. He also froze the Safety on one occasion by looking directly at him before coming off to his primary, Hawk on 2nd and goal in what turned out to be our FG drive. Unfortunately he could not pull the trigger on a throw to the back pylon.
As for his elbow... the tape shows why it was likely sore as hell Monday. Mechanically he fell apart in the game. I saw two, only two, throws where he actually strode to his target: the Q3 strike in the half's first series to Hart on 3rd and 9, and an 8-yarder to Gabe on a slant in the 2nd play of our last possession. Otherwise he was flying open with shoulders and hips like... and I do not say this lightly... like bad Brian Hoyer. The difference being that JM has the arm strength to get away with poor mechanics more often than BH. However, in addition to the strain on his arm the poor feet hurt his accuracy.
I won't get into his "pocket presence" except to say that never in 2014 did I grade our O-line with straight "+" across the board on a play that ended in a strip sack.
Lastly, when JM's defenders start blaming our defense...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
This offensive line had better be ready to see us run the ball 40+ times otherwise its going to be a slaughter.
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Vegas had it right...
Did McCown not clear protocol?
Obviously not...
Josh McCown, who left last week’s season opener in the first quarter, remains in the NFL’s concussion protocol and will not practice this afternoon.
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Did McCown not clear protocol?
Johnny Manziel to start vs. Tennessee TitansPosted 14 minutes ago
Andrew GribbleSenior Staff Writer@Andrew_GribbleSecond-year QB will make 3rd career start in home openerJohnny Manziel
will start at quarterback Sunday in the Browns’ home opener against the Tennessee Titans, coach Mike Pettine announced Friday.Josh McCown
, who left last week’s season opener in the first quarter, remains in the NFL’s concussion protocol and will not practice this afternoon.In relief of McCown, Manziel completed 13-of-24 passes for 182 yards with a touchdown, an interception and two fumbles. He also rushed for 35 yards.
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I pray the Browns bring the defense with them this time.
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Ag, that's gonna get old real fast...
Just sayin'...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
And the JFF era begins.....
And the JFF era begins.....
He's had a full week of practice and meetings as the #1. He's going against an average defense and doing so at home, and in the home opener no less. He has everything going for him, so we'll all know at lot more after the next 4qtrs of Browns football.
Hopefully, for all of our sakes, he's as good as you and others have been saying he is............... I'll be rooting the lil' fella on that's for sure.
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I pray the Browns bring the defense with them this time.
I pray the Browns bring the defense with them this time.
Agreed and I hope JF is also better prepared. Otherwise, it could be another blowout.
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Well at least this year we're polarized over his play on the field...
All I am saying is that my early, first viewing estimate of the improvement JM displayed in Game 1 was vastly over stated. I haven't given up hope, but I'd be lying if I said that the elbow development did not concern me. How can a developing QB develop if he has to be put on a pitch count? And JM still has a very long way to go...
What JM did well were the hot reads. I think he was 3 for 3 in finding the target left by the blitzing DB. He also froze the Safety on one occasion by looking directly at him before coming off to his primary, Hawk on 2nd and goal in what turned out to be our FG drive. Unfortunately he could not pull the trigger on a throw to the back pylon.
As for his elbow... the tape shows why it was likely sore as hell Monday. Mechanically he fell apart in the game. I saw two, only two, throws where he actually strode to his target: the Q3 strike in the half's first series to Hart on 3rd and 9, and an 8-yarder to Gabe on a slant in the 2nd play of our last possession. Otherwise he was flying open with shoulders and hips like... and I do not say this lightly... like bad Brian Hoyer. The difference being that JM has the arm strength to get away with poor mechanics more often than BH. However, in addition to the strain on his arm the poor feet hurt his accuracy.
I won't get into his "pocket presence" except to say that never in 2014 did I grade our O-line with straight "+" across the board on a play that ended in a strip sack.
Lastly, when JM's defenders start blaming our defense...
Lastly, when JM's defenders start blaming our defense...
Ha!....
Last year he was terrible because...
1) We were unfair in playing him too soon(week 13?).....
2) Shanny switched the offense to suite him, which was bad....
3) or....Shanny didnt switch the offense to suite him, which was bad...
4) We had him run a bootleg and got him hurt....
This year(so far), its.....
1) Because our Defense is bad and didnt give him the ball enough....
2) The fans are mean to him, so now his confidence is bruised....
3) The offensive line didnt even give him a chance....
4) Our receivers dont know how to come back for the pass...
5) Our receivers cant get open.....
6) Our receivers are too short....
So, there's that.....(those).....
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