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  • hoortaH hoorta

    Zombo said:

    If I granted you a wish, and you could QB the Browns for one drive ... even if it is the end of a blowout loss ... are you sliding short on 4th and 6 to protect yourself?

    No, you are not, and you have probably never had your girlfriend tell cops that you beat her either.

    He's not right for us, let us see what Davis has.

    Z

    Z- you live to fight another day- the game was over. It was over at halftime. The Browns needed to play error free ball, and they stunk. 3 holding penalties and one illegal proceedure on ONE drive are you kidding me?. Ask Tour- McCown holds on to the ball too freaking long.

    So, McCown sucks, Manziel sucks, let's bring in the third stringer- that's the ticket to the #1 overall pick.

    @hoorta said:

    Z- you live to fight another day- the game was over. It was over at halftime.

    Game wasn't over at halftime...that's crazy.

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  • WalterWhiteW WalterWhite

    Why would you risk getting hurt when down 24-6 with the game almost over. Smart move. He'll be the starter soon enough.

    @walterwhite said:

    Why would you risk getting hurt when down 24-6 with the game almost over. Smart move. He'll be the starter soon enough.

    Like next week?

  • WalterWhiteW WalterWhite

    Why would you risk getting hurt when down 24-6 with the game almost over. Smart move. He'll be the starter soon enough.

    @walterwhite said:

    Why would you risk getting hurt when down 24-6 with the game almost over. Smart move. He'll be the starter soon enough.

    Because you are bad ass who lives every moment for your teammates.

    Sipe takes the hit. Josh takes the hit. Connor Shaw takes the hit. Tom Brady takes the hit.

    Manziel thinks about Manziel.

    Z

  • Mark OM Mark O

    @hoorta said:

    Z- you live to fight another day- the game was over. It was over at halftime.

    Game wasn't over at halftime...that's crazy.

    @mark-o said:

    Game wasn't over at halftime...that's crazy.

    I was there, Mark- Pettine better be careful- the team QUIT. Those 2 turnovers set the table. You could just tell- the Browns weren't winning.

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  • Z totally agree. 2 guys there 2 take QB head off. Josh diving head first no doubt. Soon as I saw JM slide, the 1st words out of my mouth was "Johnny you pussy" my guess was manziel thought he had another down or he does not want Austin on the field Neither.

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  • No Johnny fan but I think sliding like that is part of his development. The game was over. He certainly didn't pull out like that when it was in Buffalo last year in a similar situation

  • hoortaH hoorta

    Zombo said:

    If I granted you a wish, and you could QB the Browns for one drive ... even if it is the end of a blowout loss ... are you sliding short on 4th and 6 to protect yourself?

    No, you are not, and you have probably never had your girlfriend tell cops that you beat her either.

    He's not right for us, let us see what Davis has.

    Z

    Z- you live to fight another day- the game was over. It was over at halftime. The Browns needed to play error free ball, and they stunk. 3 holding penalties and one illegal proceedure on ONE drive are you kidding me?. Ask Tour- McCown holds on to the ball too freaking long.

    So, McCown sucks, Manziel sucks, let's bring in the third stringer- that's the ticket to the #1 overall pick.

    @hoorta said:

    Z- you live to fight another day- the game was over. It was over at halftime. The Browns needed to play error free ball, and they stunk. 3 holding penalties and one illegal proceedure on ONE drive are you kidding me?. Ask Tour- McCown holds on to the ball too freaking long.

    So, McCown sucks, Manziel sucks, let's bring in the third stringer- that's the ticket to the #1 overall pick.

    I agree we bring in the third stringer, But I also think Manziel is a coward who is not comitted to the Browns organization or his teammates.

    I have never had to pull over on the side of the road at 3 PM, after endangering people on the interstate because I couldnt control my woman have you?

    Z

  • hoortaH hoorta

    @mark-o said:

    Game wasn't over at halftime...that's crazy.

    I was there, Mark- Pettine better be careful- the team QUIT. Those 2 turnovers set the table. You could just tell- the Browns weren't winning.

    @hoorta said:

    I was there, Mark- Pettine better be careful- the team QUIT. Those 2 turnovers set the table. You could just tell- the Browns weren't winning.

    They quit at halftime, yet came out with the 2nd half kickoff and moved the ball down the field and cut into the lead??? Ok... I'm thinking you had too much pregame wine and missed that part. I did not see a team that quit at any point in that game. I saw Benjamin fumble when it was still a game trying to fight for extra yardage. I saw McCown still standing in there trying to make plays despite the rush. I didn't see a team that quit.

  • Z Zombo

    @the-cysko-kid said:

    1-2 is .333 mccown by comparison is 2-15 in his last 17 starts

    Josh has heart. He can be my stopgap any day. Manziel is not the answer after the stopgap. Time to move on.

    Z

    Zombo said:

    Josh has heart. He can be my stopgap any day. Manziel is not the answer after the stopgap. Time to move on.

    Z

    Problem is heart doesn't win games. Sorry Z, I'll take a team with talent who actually wins as opposed to a team full of hard workers with heart. That isn't some endorsement for Manziel at all but McCown does have his flaws (read, has terrible internal clock).

    I'm no quite at the throw the season down the drain mode, but I just don't see McCown leading us to more than 2-3 wins at most. In three or so weeks you might as well see what you got. Heck, if that guy is Davis that's fine too.

  • Some of you fuckers are just plain Retarded. McCown has put up plenty of points the majority of games.

    He's not elite but he's good enough if our defense want soft as baby shit.

    Offense/mccown is not the problem with this team.

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  • WalterWhiteW WalterWhite

    Why would you risk getting hurt when down 24-6 with the game almost over. Smart move. He'll be the starter soon enough.

    Doesn't help much that I give JM the benefit of the doubt of not knowing what down it was... does it?

    @walterwhite said:

    Why would you risk getting hurt when down 24-6 with the game almost over. Smart move. He'll be the starter soon enough.

    Walter, all you have done around here as long as you've been here is internet-hard-ass bitch about any player who does not play like the 2nd coming of Butkis. And now this?

    @hoorta said:

    Like next week?

    Entirely possible since the starter, who stood in and delivered more times than not for five weeks now, looked pretty hurt walking to the locker room.

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  • Usf- we scored SIX points on offense today and the offense gave up 10 in the first quarter. Last week, our defense for a zillion ints in critical spots and kept handing the game on a platter to the offense to win, and they couldn't....

    Maybe in the Sam Diego game the offense was good and defense terrible, but the last two games it has been other way around. Big-time....

  • T Tacosman

    Usf- we scored SIX points on offense today and the offense gave up 10 in the first quarter. Last week, our defense for a zillion ints in critical spots and kept handing the game on a platter to the offense to win, and they couldn't....

    Maybe in the Sam Diego game the offense was good and defense terrible, but the last two games it has been other way around. Big-time....

    @tacosman said:

    Maybe in the Sam Diego game the offense was good and defense terrible, but the last two games it has been other way around. Big-time....

    The defense wasn't all that awesome last week when they gave up that 1 play 80 yard drive after the offense gave them the lead.

  • The defense conceded 14pts today. They played well for most of the game. The problem with this board at times is people see what they want to see. The d has sucked most of the year but it didn't today, this one is on McCown and the offense

  • L LondonBrown

    The defense conceded 14pts today. They played well for most of the game. The problem with this board at times is people see what they want to see. The d has sucked most of the year but it didn't today, this one is on McCown and the offense

    @londonbrown said:

    The defense conceded 14pts today. They played well for most of the game. The problem with this board at times is people see what they want to see. The d has sucked most of the year but it didn't today, this one is on McCown and the offense

    No doubt offense took a shit today. But calling for mccowns head is just stupid. He's the best qb on the roster.

  • WalterWhiteW WalterWhite

    Why get yourself hurt In meaningless game/series?

    Manziel is about the only bright spot of hope for the future.

    @walterwhite said:

    Why get yourself hurt In meaningless game/series?

    Manziel is about the only bright spot of hope for the future.

    walter, manziel is still drinking....believe me. he ain't the future.

  • Burn me if you want, but give some credit to the Rams D front that made ours & our OL look as worst as the Jets Game. Would JM finishes that game if he started? Made Joshes pocket clock look even worst but can take the beating. Josh gives us the best chance to win games if this is why we play the Game?

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  • gumby73G gumby73

    Burn me if you want, but give some credit to the Rams D front that made ours & our OL look as worst as the Jets Game. Would JM finishes that game if he started? Made Joshes pocket clock look even worst but can take the beating. Josh gives us the best chance to win games if this is why we play the Game?

    @gumby73 said:

    Burn me if you want, but give some credit to the Rams D front that made ours & our OL look as worst as the Jets Game. Would JM finishes that game if he started? Made Joshes pocket clock look even worst but can take the beating. Josh gives us the best chance to win games if this is why we play the Game?

    That D line has four 1st round picks on it.

    At least the Rams GM can hit on their first round picks...unlike Ray Farmer.

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  • you got it. Get me Parsells/or? as GM 2marro. Than lets make a decision on Pettine's staff.. Something has got to shake here!! The Buddy system & with players too imo.

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  • was manziel supposed to get himself helicopter'd and promptly protocoled on a meaningless play in a game that was lost by the end of the 3rd quarter? I don't understand why he's a coward for sliding in the face of about 4 defensive players all aiming for a helmet spear kill shot on him. Had he gone in helmet first on that play we'd be down to 1 quarterback and we'd all be pissing about what a moron he is for putting himself out like that for no fucking reason.

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