Jonathan Paul Manziel
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The great quarterbacks would still be winning.
Archie Manning was the suckiest suck who ever sucked.
I agree, Philip Rivers is pathetic!
Arian Foster has been healthy for about 8 games the last 3 years.. and here he is once again out for the season. Is he still the starter? This game isn't won on the trainers' table.. unfortunately durability must be a consideration.
Arian Foster has been healthy for about 8 games the last 3 years.. and here he is once again out for the season. Is he still the starter? This game isn't won on the trainers' table.. unfortunately durability must be a consideration.McCown's internal clock apparently got him clocked again. BTW, on one of his sacks- he could easily have tossed the ball into the middle of the field- there wasn't anyone within 20 yards of the target area.
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Arian Foster has been healthy for about 8 games the last 3 years.. and here he is once again out for the season. Is he still the starter? This game isn't won on the trainers' table.. unfortunately durability must be a consideration.
McCown's internal clock apparently got him clocked again. BTW, on one of his sacks- he could easily have tossed the ball into the middle of the field- there wasn't anyone within 20 yards of the target area.
McCown's internal clock apparently got him clocked again. BTW, on one of his sacks- he could easily have tossed the ball into the middle of the field- there wasn't anyone within 20 yards of the target area.
McCown gets stuck after his second read. You can see it in his face. He looks like a kid lost in the woods after about 3 seconds.
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The great quarterbacks would still be winning.
Archie Manning was the suckiest suck who ever sucked.
I agree, Philip Rivers is pathetic!
Arian Foster has been healthy for about 8 games the last 3 years.. and here he is once again out for the season. Is he still the starter? This game isn't won on the trainers' table.. unfortunately durability must be a consideration.
Archie Manning was the suckiest suck who ever sucked.
Ya! A Homer Simpson quote! Hahaha...
Well gotta go, my damn wiener kids are listening.... Hahaha
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Trading for RG3 would make Bowe's contract look like less of a waste...
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The great quarterbacks would still be winning.
Archie Manning was the suckiest suck who ever sucked.
I agree, Philip Rivers is pathetic!
Arian Foster has been healthy for about 8 games the last 3 years.. and here he is once again out for the season. Is he still the starter? This game isn't won on the trainers' table.. unfortunately durability must be a consideration.
Archie Manning was the suckiest suck who ever sucked.
I agree, Philip Rivers is pathetic!
Archie Manning is on nobody's great quarterback list. Ever. If so you don't have a very high expectation of "Great Quarterback" Good is enough for you to label it great and that's probably why you don't mind the browns sucking for the better part of 20 years. Perhaps you're more generous in your evaluations and the catastrophe that I'm witnessing has been upgraded to "bad but with potential" in your mind.Arian Foster has been healthy for about 8 games the last 3 years.. and here he is once again out for the season. Is he still the starter? This game isn't won on the trainers' table.. unfortunately durability must be a consideration.
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as bad as Johnny has looked I would still say no. RG3 is broken already.
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yeah i'm calling you crazy. It's the wrong call. Tom Brady doesn't go head first in a meaningless game, you know that. Brady's not a dumbass. Brady does that play when it necessary, not when the game is already over. Brady makes that play in the playoffs and/or SB, of course....so probably would JM. I actually commend him for being smart there. If he takes that shot and goes down, then what?
Tom Brady doesn't run at all. He is a QB and knows his job is to THROW the football.
Tom Brady doesn't run at all. He is a QB and knows his job is to THROW the football.
He ran once today... it was not pretty.
McCown donated enough points to the Rams to win (fumble).
Not sure how you count past 6, h. First fumble could have been kicked right then for 3, but not the second. There were 8 plays between 2nd fumble and the TD.
McCown's internal clock apparently got him clocked again. BTW, on one of his sacks- he could easily have tossed the ball into the middle of the field- there wasn't anyone within 20 yards of the target area.
And then you bitch about grounding...
McCown gets stuck after his second read. You can see it in his face. He looks like a kid lost in the woods after about 3 seconds.
Face replays cost extra?
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should have been a late hit on the QB giving himself up for an automatic first down. The refs fucked us in every way possible this game. They are solely responsible. There should be serious repercussions for their actions, or lack there of.
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Zombo's right, I hate to say it, but I was excited, even stoked we took Johnny with our second first round pick last year. Sure, I wanted a stud WR and jimmy garrapolo first hand, but I just rolled with it.
Since then, Johnny has been a circus and an off the field distraction. The kid himself is a joke, he's making us into more of a circus. If he was serious, He wouldn't of had a drink after finishing up rehab, especially since it was, what, a Monday? Repeating the same thing over and over again and expecting the same result is insanity. What has he shown us so far? Has he ever left it all on the field?
All i've heard him do is get in front of the media and tell us he's sorry for fucking up or that he's a backup. I saw we trade him to the cowboys and give him to jerry for whatever we can get. F$%# him.
Johnny is clearly all about Johnny. How many more chances do we give him to show us. All least Mccown shows us he has balls. Even hoyer would of tried to win. And don't even tell me Tim motherfu#$%ing Tebow wouldn't of put it all on the field to get that first down.....
Now lets roll with Austin Davis.
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You guys are all trippin. This is on Pett and Flip. Remember Pettine's game plan for the Ravens.....to throw all day if we have to? Well that worked out with 457 passing yards or some shit and a win.
So why not keep doing that. Flip excelled. However Pettine wants to be a running team so bad I'm sure Flip has to comply. Stupid stats during the game: 17 pass plays 17 running plays. Who
give a crap?! Other teams aren't scared or fooled. We are forcing the run and get stuffed time and time again. Pettine needs to let the air attack resume then Flip rocks it. Otherwise we are running
just to run for Stubborn Pettine. Equal throws and runs. Good for you chromedome. No one cares.
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yeah i'm calling you crazy. It's the wrong call. Tom Brady doesn't go head first in a meaningless game, you know that. Brady's not a dumbass. Brady does that play when it necessary, not when the game is already over. Brady makes that play in the playoffs and/or SB, of course....so probably would JM. I actually commend him for being smart there. If he takes that shot and goes down, then what?
Tom Brady doesn't run at all. He is a QB and knows his job is to THROW the football.
Tom Brady doesn't run at all. He is a QB and knows his job is to THROW the football.
Cam Newton runs a good bit and his team is undefeated and has been to the playoffs two years in a row. Russell Wilson runs a good bit too and he's been in two straight super Bowls. That isn't an endorsement for Manziel, but it's not 1982 anymore either. Mobile QB's are gaining ground in the NFL.
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should have been a late hit on the QB giving himself up for an automatic first down. The refs fucked us in every way possible this game. They are solely responsible. There should be serious repercussions for their actions, or lack there of.
should have been a late hit on the QB giving himself up for an automatic first down. The refs fucked us in every way possible this game. They are solely responsible. There should be serious repercussions for their actions, or lack there of.
4 fumbles didn't help either.
But we had a nice looking drive on offense that was slaughtered by a whistle every play in the 3rd quarter I think - very frustrating.
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A thread suggesting we go after RG3?
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Some of you fuckers are just plain Retard. McCown has put up plenty of points the majority of games.
He's not elite but he's good enough if our defense want soft as baby shit.
Offense/mccown is not the problem with this team.
McCown donated enough points to the Rams to win (fumble). The rest of the offense playd like crap granted.
Usf- we scored SIX points on offense today and the offense gave up 10 in the first quarter. Last week, our defense for a zillion ints in critical spots and kept handing the game on a platter to the offense to win, and they couldn't....
Maybe in the Sam Diego game the offense was good and defense terrible, but the last two games it has been other way around. Big-time....
When you guys going to figure out McCown is who he is? Around 2-14 in his last starts? You happy getting shit shoveled at you? I'm calling a spade a spade. You don't like Johnny- fine. Spurgon Wynn is available I hear.
McCown donated enough points to the Rams to win (fumble). The rest of the offense playd like crap granted.
When you guys going to figure out McCown is who he is? Around 2-14 in his last starts? You happy getting shit shoveled at you? I'm calling a spade a spade. You don't like Johnny- fine. Spurgon Wynn is available I hear.
i agree that mccown ain't taking this team to the sb or playoffs. But what the fuck, he has 1 tall reciever to throw to...all the rest are midgets that are not going to the hof. He didn't get any help when our fucking gm got hartline and bowe as free agents...We have no running game, so all the defenses line up and attack josh. Our ol sucks big time. No kidding, any qb in the nfl today would donate points to the opposition with this talent level..
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bs. Our oline does not suck. But the lack of blue chip wr's....
or at least one...
does exactly what Hoorta said. The defenses crunch the los,
and go after the run on the way in to get Josh...
and all the heroics by Barnidge - he gets double covered
and still makes plays...
The little quick guys aren't big enough to block downfield, and
Travis is the wr they have to worry a bit about.
AND, the running on first down. Nearly all the time. WTF ?
I don't get it.
It sets up pressure on the qb to throw when the defense knows
he has to throw.
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The only person on the OL sucking this year is Mack.
Having crappy WR's doesn't stop a team - but continuing to run even when the opponents DL shuts it down is lunacy. We should have used the gameplan by the Pats against the Jets -- they ran the ball 9 times all game, and 4 of those were QB runs when the play was called as a pass.
But even Brady doesn't have remotely useful receivers outside of Gronk... someone named LaFell had 8 targets.
The more labels you have for yourself, the dumber they make you. "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." Paul Brown -
Lafell is third string... yes, Brady doesn't have any great receivers....
except for Gronk. But look at how much Gronk means to their offense.
It's like Peyton Manning in the Denver game - he can get rid of the ball,
often, to quick open wr's.
You go after Brady, and he simply throws it to Gronk.
Mccown had Barnidge - but watch how many times the Patriots run on first down.
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The only person on the OL sucking this year is Mack.
Having crappy WR's doesn't stop a team - but continuing to run even when the opponents DL shuts it down is lunacy. We should have used the gameplan by the Pats against the Jets -- they ran the ball 9 times all game, and 4 of those were QB runs when the play was called as a pass.
But even Brady doesn't have remotely useful receivers outside of Gronk... someone named LaFell had 8 targets.
The only person on the OL sucking this year is Mack.
Having crappy WR's doesn't stop a team - but continuing to run even when the opponents DL shuts it down is lunacy. We should have used the gameplan by the Pats against the Jets -- they ran the ball 9 times all game, and 4 of those were QB runs when the play was called as a pass.
But even Brady doesn't have remotely useful receivers outside of Gronk... someone named LaFell had 8 targets.
Mack has been getting a little better as the seasons gone on - he could still get back to his pro-bowl form.
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Wouldn't matter either way....but, like Ghoolie said....get rid of that fat ass primadonna, Joe Thomas
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