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  • Not to mention Mack has a no trade clause in his contract.

  • He can agree to a trade though....and I think he might.....depends on where.....but anyone trading for a high dollar player mid season probably has playoff aspirations.....which would be attractive to Mack, I do believe....

    Heck, he might even give them that extra year if its a team he really likes.....

  • Not to mention Mack has a no trade clause in his contract.

    @canton-dawg said:

    Not to mention Mack has a no trade clause in his contract.

    Why would he stay? Hoping he helps the Browns with picks and he turns into a rental.

  • Joe Thomas is Cleveland? With what Cleveland has been, it's more of a reason to offer hi up. If this was baseball, I could see it happening but not in the NFL.

  • Sure- trade them for what? Another first round bust?

  • He can agree to a trade though....and I think he might.....depends on where.....but anyone trading for a high dollar player mid season probably has playoff aspirations.....which would be attractive to Mack, I do believe....

    Heck, he might even give them that extra year if its a team he really likes.....

    @mudfly said:

    He can agree to a trade though....and I think he might.....depends on where.....but anyone trading for a high dollar player mid season probably has playoff aspirations.....which would be attractive to Mack, I do believe....

    Heck, he might even give them that extra year if its a team he really likes.....

    Agree... trade could be contingent on Mack either waiving his opt-out or signing a new contract. A lot of wrangling without much time, but doable.

  • the browns are dumb!.. they prove it time and again.. they should be trading Manziel.. hes nothing but a distraction.

  • the browns are dumb!.. they prove it time and again.. they should be trading Manziel.. hes nothing but a distraction.

    @nickers said:

    the browns are dumb!.. they prove it time and again.. they should be trading Manziel.. hes nothing but a distraction.

    No one would offer more than a bag of shaved back hair for him at this point.

  • @nickers said:

    the browns are dumb!.. they prove it time and again.. they should be trading Manziel.. hes nothing but a distraction.

    No one would offer more than a bag of shaved back hair for him at this point.

    @mark-o said:

    No one would offer more than a bag of shaved back hair for him at this point.

    Clean or dirty razor?

  • Not a fan of trading JT.

  • i'm glad they're shopping these guys in a way, cause we need a rebuild...but I cringe that it's made public. Good luck getting anything but half assed production out of these guys for the remainder of the season. I can see getting something for Mack and Thomas, although who do we put at LT? It's not like we're flush with talent, we're already having trouble protecting the QB except from the left. Add another gaping hole to our O line and who wants to be QB in Cleveland? nobody. And Kruger? Who on earth is gonna take that contract for such little production unless there's a desperate 4-3 team taht thinks they can convert him back to what he should be in short order. No 3-4 team is taking Kruger, his days of standing up in the NFL are over. And if he knows what's good for his career he'll never allow himself to be stood up as a 3-4 olb'er ever again.

  • big rebuild ahead though folks, the Shurmur/Chud era players are gonna get purged. It needs to be done, but y'all need to understand what it means.....no playoffs for years.

  • big rebuild ahead though folks, the Shurmur/Chud era players are gonna get purged. It needs to be done, but y'all need to understand what it means.....no playoffs for years.

    @clevfan4life said:

    big rebuild ahead though folks, the Shurmur/Chud era players are gonna get purged. It needs to be done, but y'all need to understand what it means.....no playoffs for years.

    And we've been having having playoff games for years.

  • big rebuild ahead though folks, the Shurmur/Chud era players are gonna get purged. It needs to be done, but y'all need to understand what it means.....no playoffs for years.

    @clevfan4life said:

    big rebuild ahead though folks, the Shurmur/Chud era players are gonna get purged. It needs to be done, but y'all need to understand what it means.....no playoffs for years.

    Yup... and has to be in full consultation with Haslam so it implies that he is prepared to stay the course with Farmer and Pet for at least... two more seasons?

  • well my point was that some people think we're right there with this groups of players, we just have to find the right coach. I think the smarter of us have realized that it ain't happenin, most of these guys on defense especially....need to go. I'd conserve some of the secondary only and start rebuilding the front 7. Draft BPA's and fit the defensive scheme to what fits them best

  • yeah I dunno about Farmer, Pettine yes....but Farmer, man his drafting sucks fat dick.

  • Not gonna rehash old topics, but Farmer has missed on possible HOF talent that nobody even dreamed Cleveland would pass on if those players were available at our picks, which some of them were.

  • Looks like the circus has re-upped for 5 more years.

  • well my point was that some people think we're right there with this groups of players, we just have to find the right coach. I think the smarter of us have realized that it ain't happenin, most of these guys on defense especially....need to go. I'd conserve some of the secondary only and start rebuilding the front 7. Draft BPA's and fit the defensive scheme to what fits them best

    @clevfan4life said:

    well my point was that some people think we're right there with this groups of players, we just have to find the right coach. I think the smarter of us have realized that it ain't happenin, most of these guys on defense especially....need to go. I'd conserve some of the secondary only and start rebuilding the front 7. Draft BPA's and fit the defensive scheme to what fits them best

    agree

  • i'm glad they're shopping these guys in a way, cause we need a rebuild...but I cringe that it's made public. Good luck getting anything but half assed production out of these guys for the remainder of the season. I can see getting something for Mack and Thomas, although who do we put at LT? It's not like we're flush with talent, we're already having trouble protecting the QB except from the left. Add another gaping hole to our O line and who wants to be QB in Cleveland? nobody. And Kruger? Who on earth is gonna take that contract for such little production unless there's a desperate 4-3 team taht thinks they can convert him back to what he should be in short order. No 3-4 team is taking Kruger, his days of standing up in the NFL are over. And if he knows what's good for his career he'll never allow himself to be stood up as a 3-4 olb'er ever again.

    @clevfan4life said:

    i'm glad they're shopping these guys in a way, cause we need a rebuild...but I cringe that it's made public.

    I can see getting something for Mack and Thomas, although who do we put at LT? It's not like we're flush with talent, we're already having trouble protecting the QB except from the left.

    And Kruger? Who on earth is gonna take that contract for such little production unless there's a desperate 4-3 team taht thinks they can convert him back to what he should be in short order. No 3-4 team is taking Kruger, his days of standing up in the NFL are over. And if he knows what's good for his career he'll never allow himself to be stood up as a 3-4 olb'er ever again.

    You can't "shop" players as well known as JT and Mack without expecting it to leak.

    At LT Bito still looks like the best JT replacement to me... but if Schwartz can swap sides and be as effective as he's been at RT this year...

    I'm not keeping a sack count, but I've no doubt JT is low man. Even so you might have to say "except from the wide left" as there have been a number of inside left sacks and right half sacks due to pressure from the left half.

    As for Krugs... strikes me that moving back to his natural position as a 4-3 DE could be a fairly quick reversion.