Browns shopping Thomas, Mack and Kruger!

Clevfan4life

i'm not so sure the transition back to how Blt used Kruger would be that quick for him. I think he's lost alot of leverage since he came to Cleveland. First year he still had a good bull rush but he lost his ability to power carve the edge which if you see some of his tape from Blt, he was alot stronger going around the arc. He has to put clean weight back on, meaning all muscle. I wish we could have done that for him but oh well. Watch him go somewhere and have a 15 sack year.

jbluhm86

@tiamat63 said:
Not a fan of trading JT.

Neither am I, but if a decent offer came from a playoff-caliber team, I'd pull the trigger. The dude is such pro and a class act; he deserves to actually have a chance to win something before his career is over. With the level of disfunction in the Browns organization right now, he won't have a chance to win here.

Tour2ma

Agree, tia... How long have I been asking for evidence of our D scheme adjusting to our player's strengths? Seems like forever now, but it's been at least this season.

If the answer is that he has, but he just can't hide their weaknesses, then the players aren't versatile enough.

And on Kruger...

Cleve... certainly not instantaneous if his body is no longer suited for the role or he has lost a step, but mentally it would seem there would be a fairly short route back to what made you successful.

bringbackbrownie2

@jbluhm86 said:
Neither am I, but if a decent offer came from a playoff-caliber team, I'd pull the trigger. The dude is such pro and a class act; he deserves to actually have a chance to win something before his career is over. With the level of disfunction in the Browns organization right now, he won't have a chance to win here.

I agree, but I'm not convinced he wants to leave based on his comments earlier in the year. I would only trade him if he wants to go. I would never trade a good veteran that wants to stay..

BaconHound

It appears by the time the Browns have the pieces in place Thomas will be 32. If you can get a GREAT deal 1st & 3rd, pull the trigger.

Opal312

Deadline is November 3rd at 4pm

dawg2fan

I agree that we need to make moves. Why not go for more draft picks. Let's hope that Farmer makes the correct moves though. So far, it hasn't been good.

Opal312

Barkevious Mingo Kruger Mack and Thomas

Read more at: http://nesn.com/2015/11/barkevious-mingo-among-players-reportedly-available-at-nfl-trade-deadline/

Suomi

Trade 'em all, and if the Browns front office can't get first round picks for Thomas and Mack they've done it wrong.

Tim Couch Pulls Out

They're not going anywhere.

bringbackbrownie2

@suomi said:
Trade 'em all, and if the Browns front office can't get first round picks for Thomas and Mack they've done it wrong.

Haha this isn't Madden. Not going to happen..

browns52

@tim-couch-pulls-out said:
They're not going anywhere.

i think mack and thomas rumor may be true...how many fucking yrs of losing football can 1 person stand...krueger has a ring, mingo is too young, but he is not the stud as we thought we would get when drafted...

Tim Couch Pulls Out

@browns52 said:
i think mack and thomas rumor may be true...how many fucking yrs of losing football can 1 person stand...krueger has a ring, mingo is too young, but he is not the stud as we thought we would get when drafted...

In season trades for linemen are rare, the only thing that would make sense is Mack to Denver. Mack's contract is a hindrance. A team can just wait for him to be a FA next year.

Ibleedbrown

@mld-woody said:

I just saw that.

Joe Thomas IS Cleveland. Idk how you could trade him. I don't think you could get more than what he is worth to this team.

Yep on Thomas. What is a million broken hearts worth in trade value?

Chicopee John

@hoorta said:
Sure- trade them for what? Another first round bust?

You know how the NFL works, Larry.

The Browns would get a Dime on a Dollar in trading any of these guys.

They should try, I guess, but - at least contracts aren't guaranteed.

I'm not watching much of the team these days but it sounds like the problems go pretty deep. And I'm not only talking about players and the GM.

Chicopee John

@suomi said:
Trade 'em all, and if the Browns front office can't get first round picks for Thomas and Mack they've done it wrong.

They might get a 3rd for one of them - maybe a 2nd for Thomas.

Mack? Maybe a 4th?

This isn't the NBA or MLB. And none of these guys are skill players or difference makers.

7moses7

Haden can go too

hoorta

@tour2ma said:
Yup... and has to be in full consultation with Haslam so it implies that he is prepared to stay the course with Farmer and Pet for at least... two more seasons?

Interesting Tour wondering how much more losing Haslam will tolerate.The record says- minus Manzeil- you're 1-10. You whiffed on Mack & Carr.

@jbluhm86 said:
Neither am I, but if a decent offer came from a playoff-caliber team, I'd pull the trigger. The dude is such pro and a class act; he deserves to actually have a chance to win something before his career is over. With the level of disfunction in the Browns organization right now, he won't have a chance to win here.

We're not going to get a decent offer. Unless Farmer is stockpiling picks to move up to #1 overall.

Soju

Good move them all out and get someone who can actually play and make a difference in the 'W' category.

browns52

@bringbackbrownie2 said:
Haha this isn't Madden. Not going to happen..

don't bet on it. You have to figure that both these guys are sick and tired of the merry go round and losing seasons yr after yr...these guys have their money and security if they don't screw it up. I'm sure they'd like to hoist the lombardi trophy before their careers are over...ain't happenin here in cleveeeeeeeelin...