Browns shopping Thomas, Mack and Kruger!
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Joe is awesome, easily one of the best ever. his size and ability in ANY era before now would make his legacy all-world, the "Jim Brown" of o-lineman. his greatness makes other guy's jobs harder, not just the obvious of the opponent's D, but also for his bookend and fellow line-mates...similar to how Darelle Revis's cb teammates become the focus of gameplans by default. i wouldn't be surprised if Schwartz hates the guy. just kidding.
if you could go back though, and JT, Megatron and All Day are all on the board...tough call.
all of the above, sure. if i knew Peterson's college injuries were not going to be issues??? hmmm
JT isn't responsible for our crappy draft record otherwise, Ghoolie just doesn't understand that
A HOFer LT that has never missed a snap was a great pick in 2007, however the picks surrounding it not so much.
JT isn't responsible for our crappy draft record otherwise, Ghoolie just doesn't understand that
A HOFer LT that has never missed a snap was a great pick in 2007, however the picks surrounding it not so much.
Just think.....the Browns could have also passed on JT....in favor of either DE Gaines Adams who was taken with the very next pick or OT Levi Brown, taken after that.
Adams died of a heart attack after 3 years in the league. Levi Brown was basically a bust who is no longer playing in the league.
That #5 overall pick can't get a job.
So, yes, Ghoolie, things could have been worse than taking JT.
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VesnaKociper said:
Joe Thomas was the dumbest, most idiotic draft pick of all time. WTF has this guy contributed?
Nothing much except being one of the best LT's in football for years now. He's one of the few picks we've gotten right since 99. James Harrison even said I would have knocked out 10 Cleveland QB's with just my dick swinging around the edge if it hadn't been for JT.
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Lt is a position that only really matters when you have a quarterback smart enough to get rid of the goddamn ball once in a while. Otherwise he can't block for thirty seconds a play while [browns qb] makes a decision
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If they trade to help Denver out I'm driving right up there and bitching up a storm.
There are teams that we should never ever deal with.
If they are able to grab a 2015 first round pick, a 2016 first round pick, plus at least a 2015 second round pick, then take those picks and get a legitimate QB, a legitimate ILB, a legitimate DE and LT/C replacement...I'd welcome a trade with Denver with open arms.
EDIT:
For instance, say we trade them, finish 4-12, finish at #2, trade from #2 to #5 and pick up a 2015 second and third, take OT Ronnie Stanley at #5, then package a 2016 first, a 2015 second, a 2016 second and a 2015 third to move up for QB Jordan Lynch, then take DE Chris Jones in the second, I may take that.
Maybe.
If they are able to grab a 2015 2016 first round pick, a 2016 2017 first round pick, plus at least a 2015 2016 second round pick, then take those picks and get a legitimate QB, a legitimate ILB, a legitimate DE and LT/C replacement...I'd welcome a trade with Denver with open arms.
By any chance, is this what you meant?
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Ghoolie is a troll. Don't feed him
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If they are able to grab a 2015 2016 first round pick, a 2016 2017 first round pick, plus at least a 2015 2016 second round pick, then take those picks and get a legitimate QB, a legitimate ILB, a legitimate DE and LT/C replacement...I'd welcome a trade with Denver with open arms.
By any chance, is this what you meant?
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Is there any drug we can pump Dwayne Bowe with to make him better? Like that limitless pill?
We could really use him since looks like Hawkins+Hartline will be out.
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Is there any drug we can pump Dwayne Bowe with to make him better? Like that limitless pill?
We could really use him since looks like Hawkins+Hartline will be out.
Is there any drug we can pump Dwayne Bowe with to make him better?
Make him better than what...he hasnt even played...
How about a drug to just get him in a game?....and then actually make a few attempts to throw him the ball?
I do understand he hasnt done anything to impress the coachs(obviously)....he might completely suck rocks too......but I also think players gotta play if you want to truly see what they can do.......
And unlike, say Gilbert or Manziel, at least Bowe has a history that proves he can play in this league.....
I truly do not understand how they think all these guys standing on the sidelines is doing good for the team.......
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Is there any drug we can pump Dwayne Bowe with to make him better?
Make him better than what...he hasnt even played...
How about a drug to just get him in a game?....and then actually make a few attempts to throw him the ball?
I do understand he hasnt done anything to impress the coachs(obviously)....he might completely suck rocks too......but I also think players gotta play if you want to truly see what they can do.......
And unlike, say Gilbert or Manziel, at least Bowe has a history that proves he can play in this league.....
I truly do not understand how they think all these guys standing on the sidelines is doing good for the team.......
Make him better than what...he hasnt even played...
How about a drug to just get him in a game?....and then actually make a few attempts to throw him the ball?
I do understand he hasnt done anything to impress the coachs(obviously)....he might completely suck rocks too......but I also think players gotta play if you want to truly see what they can do.......
And unlike, say Gilbert or Manziel, at least Bowe has a history that proves he can play in this league.....
I truly do not understand how they think all these guys standing on the sidelines is doing good for the team.......
This was in the wrong thread I think
But I mean it would be really nice if Bowe wasn't a non-factor given the couple injuries we have this Thursday at WR
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There are a lot of pills and drugs on the market, We should try something to get his ass on the field and in uniform
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