This gop field are a bunch of whining spineless sissies, except for Trump apparently

OldBrownsFan

Discovering the Truth

In conclusion, available evidence suggests that Obama was born and raised a Muslim and retained a Muslim identity until his late 20s. Child to a line of Muslim males, given a Muslim name, registered as a Muslim in two Indonesian schools, he read Koran in religion class, he still recites the Islamic declaration of faith, and he speaks to Muslim audiences like a fellow believer. Between his non-practicing Muslim father, his Muslim stepfather, and his four years of living in a Muslim milieu, he was both seen by others and saw himself as a Muslim.

This is not to say that he was a practicing Muslim or that he remains a Muslim today, much less an Islamist, nor that his Muslim background significantly influences his political outlook (which, in fact, is typical of an American leftist). Nor is there a problem about his converting from Islam to Christianity. The issue is Obama's having specifically and repeatedly lied about his Muslim identity. More than any other single deception, Obama's treatment of his own religious background exposes his moral failings.

Questions about Obama's Truthfulness

Yet, these failings remain largely unknown to the American electorate. Consider the contrast of his case and that of James Frey, the author of A Million Little Pieces. Both Frey and Obama wrote inaccurate memoirs that Oprah Winfrey endorsed and which rose to #1 on the non-fiction bestseller list. When Frey's literary deceptions about his own drug taking and criminality became apparent, Winfrey tore viciously into him, a library reclassified his book as fiction, and the publisher offered a refund to customers who felt deceived.

In contrast, Obama's falsehoods are blithely excused; Arnold Rampersad, professor of English at Stanford University who teaches autobiography, admiringly called Dreams "so full of clever tricks—inventions for literary effect—that I was taken aback, even astonished. But make no mistake, these are simply the tricks that art trades in, and out of these tricks is supposed to come our realization of truth." Gerald Early, professor of English literature and African-American studies at Washington University in St. Louis, goes further: "It really doesn't matter if he made up stuff. … I don't think it much matters whether Barack Obama has told the absolute truth in Dreams From My Father. What's important is how he wanted to construct his life."

How odd that a lowlife's story about his sordid activities inspires high moral standards while the U.S. president's autobiography gets a pass. Tricky Dick, move over for Bogus Barry.

Mr. Pipes (

www.DanielPipes.org

) is president of the Middle East Forum.

MLD Woody

Oh god here we go...

And a man lived in a large fish too, right?

bbedward

I think there's many,many valid criticisms you could make regarding Obama and his policies, you guys are doing a great job at bringing up those criticisms so we could discuss them further.

OldBrownsFan

@mld-woody said:

Oh god here we go...

And a man lived in a large fish too, right?

New International Version Matthew 12:40

For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of a huge fish, so the Son of Man will be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.

If you are a believer (I am) you give this statement a lot of weight because it is coming from Jesus Himself. Would Jesus use a fable to describe his death and resurrection?

MLD Woody

Thank you for making this easy for me

OldBrownsFan

@mld-woody said:
Thank you for making this easy for me

Easy for both of us: The unbeliever believes the bible to be foolishness because it is spiritually discerned. 1 Cor 2:14

Clevfan4life

All these years later and we're still talking about this? The guy is a shit muslim if he is one, which he's not. Has it never occurred to any of you that a true "secret" mooslim would find himself more often on the conservative spectrum of things than liberal? I mean seriously....if there is an antithesis to the muslim view of the world in this country it's liberalism. I mean for gods sake, abortion...gay marriage.....equality of the sexes....all liberal cornerstones and completely antithetical to muslim idealogy.

Westside Steve

@mld-woody said:
I've had huge Christian influences in my life. What's your point?

Do your parents still go to church?

WSS

Westside Steve

@gftchris said:

Hmm. The 9/11 terrorists drank, listen to Western music, chased women etcetera etcetera etcetera and still... Coincidence?

WSS

MLD Woody

@westside-steve said:

Do your parents still go to church?

WSS

I don't think so. Maybe a poke in on Easter. My grandma does. But u don't think my parents do

Westside Steve

@mld-woody said:
I don't think so. Maybe a poke in on Easter. My grandma does. But u don't think my parents do

Through about 14 or 15 I went to church because my friends went to church and we hung around. Reverend Lions would let me come in during the week and play the organ. I don't think my dad ever really went.

I went to church camp around that time.

WSS

MLD Woody

@westside-steve said:

Through about 14 or 15 I went to church because my friends went to church and we hung around. Reverend Lions would let me come in during the week and play the organ. I don't think my dad ever really went.

I went to church camp around that time.

WSS

Oh, I bet he did...

LogicIsForSquares

I was a camp counselor at a church camp when I was in my early teens. Shortly after, I realized it was all a big goof.