Jonathan Paul Manziel
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If he took 1st team reps in practice last week is it really a tough situation for him?
Fresh legs, I think it's a good situation. And I stand by my prediction we will win.
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Lets start McCown so he gets fucking paralyzed and then put in JFF. You guys are fucking sick.
Lets start McCown so he gets fucking paralyzed and then put in JFF. You guys are fucking sick.
If we traded JT JM may have gotten paralyzed after Thursday.
But I have no idea what you're saying.
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Tithe Browns are 2-6! What the hell do they have,to lose? Are the fans really paying to see McCown? Is it the fans fault the Browns passed on Carr? Bridgewater?
Play Manziel even though it's a short week and he hasn't had much prep time. At least we will have something to look forward to my God!
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Are you completely sure about this? It seems there are quite a few posters around here who want to be able to say "I told you so" every single week.
It's just taking the rose colored glasses off Mark- it's called being "objective" and not a hopeless homer. Didn't I tell you in the Tavern you could have my season tickets for the next time you're in town if the Browns kept it within (I think 3, I was drinking heavily at the time). Seems like my radar was right on- I don't like losing anymore than you do, but apparently Pettine didn't get the memo NFL games are 60 minutes long, not 30- and it isn't too smart to keep putting a damaged quarterback out there who's going three and out, three and out, rinse wash repeat- and tosses up a soft floater to the end zone on a bum shoulder that got picked off.
It's just taking the rose colored glasses off Mark- it's called being "objective" and not a hopeless homer. Didn't I tell you in the Tavern you could have my season tickets for the next time you're in town if the Browns kept it within (I think 3, I was drinking heavily at the time). Seems like my radar was right on- I don't like losing anymore than you do, but apparently Pettine didn't get the memo NFL games are 60 minutes long, not 30- and it isn't too smart to keep putting a damaged quarterback out there who's going three and out, three and out, rinse wash repeat- and tosses up a soft floater to the end zone on a bum shoulder that got picked off.
There you go again.... "Didn't I tell you?" "seems like my radar was right on". There's no fucking prize for you predicting failure for the team. You don't win shit. And what if I want to wear fucking rose colored glasses? Who the fuck are you or any of you other negative dickweeds to tell me that I should give up and be "objective". You "objective" people suck and must lead miserable lives that a fucking football team that you watch in your spare time makes you so miserable.
I'll be objective in the offseason....in the meantime I'll root for my team to win every week and not bet or pick against them or predict that they're going to lose when up by 10 points at halftime just so I can say "i told you so".
We're going to kick the Bengals ass even if Johnny plays.
10-6
Fuck being objective. My rose colored glasses fit perfectly.
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It's just taking the rose colored glasses off Mark- it's called being "objective" and not a hopeless homer. Didn't I tell you in the Tavern you could have my season tickets for the next time you're in town if the Browns kept it within (I think 3, I was drinking heavily at the time). Seems like my radar was right on- I don't like losing anymore than you do, but apparently Pettine didn't get the memo NFL games are 60 minutes long, not 30- and it isn't too smart to keep putting a damaged quarterback out there who's going three and out, three and out, rinse wash repeat- and tosses up a soft floater to the end zone on a bum shoulder that got picked off.
There you go again.... "Didn't I tell you?" "seems like my radar was right on". There's no fucking prize for you predicting failure for the team. You don't win shit. And what if I want to wear fucking rose colored glasses? Who the fuck are you or any of you other negative dickweeds to tell me that I should give up and be "objective". You "objective" people suck and must lead miserable lives that a fucking football team that you watch in your spare time makes you so miserable.
I'll be objective in the offseason....in the meantime I'll root for my team to win every week and not bet or pick against them or predict that they're going to lose when up by 10 points at halftime just so I can say "i told you so".
We're going to kick the Bengals ass even if Johnny plays.
10-6
Fuck being objective. My rose colored glasses fit perfectly.
There you go again.... "Didn't I tell you?" "seems like my radar was right on". There's no fucking prize for you predicting failure for the team. You don't win shit. And what if I want to wear fucking rose colored glasses? Who the fuck are you or any of you other negative dickweeds to tell me that I should give up and be "objective". You "objective" people suck and must lead miserable lives that a fucking football team that you watch in your spare time makes you so miserable.
I'll be objective in the offseason....in the meantime I'll root for my team to win every week and not bet or pick against them or predict that they're going to lose when up by 10 points at halftime just so I can say "i told you so".
We're going to kick the Bengals ass even if Johnny plays.
10-6
Fuck being objective. My rose colored glasses fit perfectly.
More like 2-14.
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There you go again.... "Didn't I tell you?" "seems like my radar was right on". There's no fucking prize for you predicting failure for the team. You don't win shit. And what if I want to wear fucking rose colored glasses? Who the fuck are you or any of you other negative dickweeds to tell me that I should give up and be "objective". You "objective" people suck and must lead miserable lives that a fucking football team that you watch in your spare time makes you so miserable.
I'll be objective in the offseason....in the meantime I'll root for my team to win every week and not bet or pick against them or predict that they're going to lose when up by 10 points at halftime just so I can say "i told you so".
We're going to kick the Bengals ass even if Johnny plays.
10-6
Fuck being objective. My rose colored glasses fit perfectly.
More like 2-14.
More like 2-14.
I'll take that bet.... Browns lose every game for the rest of the year and finish 2-14 and I'll leave the board, never to return. Browns win just one game to make your asinine prediction wrong, and you leave here never to return.
Deal? Put your money where your mouth is big talker. You were leaving 2 weeks ago and yet you;re still here whining like a little baby.
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Mark, I don't see how you can lose that bet. Lose 'em all?....No way.
I think we'll see Johnny Thursday. McCown seems pretty beat up. I've had broken ribs & bruised ribs before. BREATHING is an adventure. Even with painkillers, you know the Bengals will POUND his chest & shoulder. I'm for letting McCown heal & also seeing what we have in Johnny so we have a better idea of how to proceed in planning next year's draft.
Mike
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It's time to let the two first round draft picks play. At 2-6 you would need a miracle to get to the playoffs. So
It's time to start not only Manziel for the rest of the year but Gilbert too. He's returning punts while our secondary is out with injuries. Joe Haden has another concussion and has played poorly. The answer:
Throw caution to the wind and let the young guys play. Gilbert can't be as bad as Bademosi was Sunday.
Play all the guys you drafted and get an idea for next year.
Maybe Farmer isn't the problem. I for one would like to see what the Browns have on their roster before another dumpster fire.
Eight games into the second year is ample time to finally take the leash off our Franchise quarterback and first round cornerback. Mariota, Carr, Bridgewater didn't have to wait for a stubborn coach to relent.
Because watching every Sports show on television showing McCown writhing in pain two games in a row is enough embarrassment. It speaks volumes about our Coach Pettine and his unwillingness to take a chance on Manziel when McCown wasn't able to even get off the cement on the sideline.
And where was Farmer? Who's the one risking their job at the end of the day? I'd say it's Pettine.
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It's just taking the rose colored glasses off Mark- it's called being "objective" and not a hopeless homer. Didn't I tell you in the Tavern you could have my season tickets for the next time you're in town if the Browns kept it within (I think 3, I was drinking heavily at the time). Seems like my radar was right on- I don't like losing anymore than you do, but apparently Pettine didn't get the memo NFL games are 60 minutes long, not 30- and it isn't too smart to keep putting a damaged quarterback out there who's going three and out, three and out, rinse wash repeat- and tosses up a soft floater to the end zone on a bum shoulder that got picked off.
There you go again.... "Didn't I tell you?" "seems like my radar was right on". There's no fucking prize for you predicting failure for the team. You don't win shit. And what if I want to wear fucking rose colored glasses? Who the fuck are you or any of you other negative dickweeds to tell me that I should give up and be "objective". You "objective" people suck and must lead miserable lives that a fucking football team that you watch in your spare time makes you so miserable.
I'll be objective in the offseason....in the meantime I'll root for my team to win every week and not bet or pick against them or predict that they're going to lose when up by 10 points at halftime just so I can say "i told you so".
We're going to kick the Bengals ass even if Johnny plays.
10-6
Fuck being objective. My rose colored glasses fit perfectly.
There you go again.... "Didn't I tell you?" "seems like my radar was right on". There's no fucking prize for you predicting failure for the team. You don't win shit. And what if I want to wear fucking rose colored glasses? Who the fuck are you or any of you other negative dickweeds to tell me that I should give up and be "objective". You "objective" people suck and must lead miserable lives that a fucking football team that you watch in your spare time makes you so miserable.
I'll be objective in the offseason....in the meantime I'll root for my team to win every week and not bet or pick against them or predict that they're going to lose when up by 10 points at halftime just so I can say "i told you so".
We're going to kick the Bengals ass even if Johnny plays.
10-6
Fuck being objective. My rose colored glasses fit perfectly.
Mark, don't get all pissed off if I see things differently. (and correctly) If I wasn't a real fan, I could save myself a lot of time (moderating this board) and money (season tickets + Directv Sunday Ticket). The Browns have been my fall passion since the late 1950s, and sorry if I'm getting a tad tired of the almost continual shit show I've seen from the Browns since 1999. Ya think it's all wonderful driving 220 miles home after I've seen the Browns turn in yet another stinking performance? In case you didn't know it, my name is up there on that wall in the SW corner of the stadium as a founding PSL member, and I've been a member of the Dayton Browns Backers since their inception. The guy I have my season tickets with has already checked out, and put his seats up for sale on NFL ticket exchange he's so disgusted with the entire situation. No playoffs since 2002, and not even a winning record since 2007. Yeah- it's been so f**cking long, I had to look those numbers up. Excuse me I have higher expectations for a return on my investment of time and money. So sure I could lead a lot happier life Sunday fall afternoons if I (as so many others have done) just throw in the towel on this dumpster fire of a team and go out on nice long bike rides in the beautiful fall weather. But for whatever reason, I'll keep hoping against hope for at least an occasional win, and some season before I croak that this team can be a Super Bowl contender again.
Sounds like you like being on the deck of the Titanic- thinking everything is going to work out just fine this year when Team Browns just hit yet another iceberg and is taking on water fast. So when are you Pollyannas going to admit- the fact that the Browns were even discussing trading their best player for peanuts is a tacit admission they've already shit canned this season, and are looking to 2016?
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"It speaks volumes about our Coach Pettine and his unwillingness to take a chance on Manziel when McCown wasn't able to even get off the cement on the sideline. "
Maybe it speaks volumes about Manziel?
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JFF starting Thursday. Seems like Haslam had a talk with Pettine and how close he is to losing his job no doubt.
"You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970. -
More like 2-14.
I'll take that bet.... Browns lose every game for the rest of the year and finish 2-14 and I'll leave the board, never to return. Browns win just one game to make your asinine prediction wrong, and you leave here never to return.
Deal? Put your money where your mouth is big talker. You were leaving 2 weeks ago and yet you;re still here whining like a little baby.
I'll take that bet.... Browns lose every game for the rest of the year and finish 2-14 and I'll leave the board, never to return. Browns win just one game to make your asinine prediction wrong, and you leave here never to return.
Deal? Put your money where your mouth is big talker. You were leaving 2 weeks ago and yet you;re still here whining like a little baby.
I wouldn't bet with you. I don't like you. And I'll whine all the fuck I want to.
"You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970. -
Let's kill these cunts. Fuck cinci.
Let's kill these cunts. Fuck cinci.
That's the spirit. Welcome back.
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"It speaks volumes about our Coach Pettine and his unwillingness to take a chance on Manziel when McCown wasn't able to even get off the cement on the sideline. "
Maybe it speaks volumes about Manziel?
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Honestly, I don't know how someone could argue against your post. I mean, so what if they play worse? Does that mean we'll just lose by MORE points? At this point, who cares? We simply have to know if any of our first round talent can play ball. Maybe some of these guys are just "gamers", and don't do well in practice, but shine when the lights are on? Can anybody tell me with a straight face that Johnson Bademosi is a better cornerback than Justin Gilbert? I don't really think that Manziel can do any better than McCown, but I do think Johnny needs to be in the damn game to see where he is at. Maybe Johnny has a high ceiling that we don't know about? Perhaps his legs and ability to run the ball will help offset the constant pass rush, and maybe even *gasp* open up the running game for our backs? And do we really want to wait until training camp to see what we have in Erving?
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It's obvious that until McCown sits down and allows the NFL's darling Manziel to play they are not going to let us win. The refs intentionally looked the other way on 9/10 late hits on McCown. They were tackling him all the way to the ground yesterday. Would the Browns get away with that shit on Andy Dalton? Fuck it, beat his ass to shit. Make that candy ass-licker eat the fucking dirt, in front of his home crowd. Take the penalties, take the loss, I could care less right now. Beat his ass to shit and watch the Bengals crumble the rest of the way. Break fucking ribs, shoulder and anything else not bolted down. Fuck em.
Time to bring the pain from now on. For every late hit, roughing the passer, hitting us out of bounds, holding, chopblock, facemask, target of the head, ect. ect. that doesn't get called for us... WE NEED TO DO IT TWICE BACK.
It's obvious that until McCown sits down and allows the NFL's darling Manziel to play they are not going to let us win. The refs intentionally looked the other way on 9/10 late hits on McCown. They were tackling him all the way to the ground yesterday. Would the Browns get away with that shit on Andy Dalton? Fuck it, beat his ass to shit. Make that candy ass-licker eat the fucking dirt, in front of his home crowd. Take the penalties, take the loss, I could care less right now. Beat his ass to shit and watch the Bengals crumble the rest of the way. Break fucking ribs, shoulder and anything else not bolted down. Fuck em.
Time to bring the pain from now on. For every late hit, roughing the passer, hitting us out of bounds, holding, chopblock, facemask, target of the head, ect. ect. that doesn't get called for us... WE NEED TO DO IT TWICE BACK.
So, for every penalty they apparently don't call on the other time, we should commit two penalties that they do call on us?
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JFF starting Thursday. Seems like Haslam had a talk with Pettine and how close he is to losing his job no doubt.
JFF starting Thursday. Seems like Haslam had a talk with Pettine and how close he is to losing his job no doubt.
Or it's more likely that McCown is injured ...no doubt.
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JFF starting Thursday. Seems like Haslam had a talk with Pettine and how close he is to losing his job no doubt.
Or it's more likely that McCown is injured ...no doubt.
Or it's more likely that McCown is injured ...no doubt.
Stop being reasonable dammit.
We all know we were trying to trade JT and toss Manziel in a short week so he could get destroyed because everybody on the Browns staff hates Manziel.
The starting QB being injured....pffft.
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