Republi-freaks
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The ONLY thing I can't stand for is abortion. I don't know how many of you leftys have kids. Probably none of you. But when I look at mine I think their lives and futures are worth fighting for. Most liberals would probably consider fighting for those that can't fight for themselves a noble thing. Unless it comes to an unborn child and then it's "fuck em! Scramble their brains and get em out of here. Their lives are MY CHOICE!"
I have a 20 month old son. I'm pro-choice but not pro abortion and no liberal is pro abortion. What I find most amusing is the pro life crowd isn't really pro-life, you all are pro birth. After a lot of these kids are born the Republicans want to yank the social programs that help support those same kids that may have otherwise been aborted. "You will birth that child and once they are born if you don't have the means you're on your own". Genius.
I have a 20 month old son. I'm pro-choice but not pro abortion and no liberal is pro abortion. What I find most amusing is the pro life crowd isn't really pro-life, you all are pro birth. After a lot of these kids are born the Republicans want to yank the social programs that help support those same kids that may have otherwise been aborted. "You will birth that child and once they are born if you don't have the means you're on your own". Genius.
I actually read something about this a few years ago, why this is and it's an interesting theory. I hate to talk about it because it involves some pretty heavy economic principles and I don't want to get it wrong, but the synopsis goes kind of like this.....the way this economy is set up the population HAS to grow. We've always been told that the reason for that is the next generation needs to pay for the last...but it's actually deeper than that, and a bit more cynical according to the article I read some years ago. The necessity for an ever expanding population base has to do with keeping our ballooned monetary structure going. This is where it got complicated and I didn't understand everything I was reading. But basically nobody cares how those children live/grow up....they just need to become citizens that eventually go into some kind of "debt". That debt is what keeps our monetary structure going and has kept the U.S dollar the worlds reserve.
I wish I could get more detailed than that but you're right to an extent, I've heard people like Rick Santorum bemoaning all the black children that have been aborted and actually outright said that the loss of that black population has cost us economically. So it lent credence to the article I had read. Unlike a lot of people I do feel badly for the black culture, a lot of them are stuck in a rut. They grow up in shit families and see no future for themselves, so they follow in the footsteps that have been modeled for them and have children at early ages they have no hope of being able to properly raise. So on the one hand people moan incessantly about all these black babies being aborted then quite literally turn around in the next breath remark on these no good savages running around the inner cities. Well........how do you not see that it doesn't do anyone any good in certain parts of that culture to have more and more children. I've made the conscious choice that i'm never going to be in a position to be a good father in this lifetime so i'm not ever getting married and therefore not having children. But compare me with a lot of black males in the inner city and i'm fucking super dad.
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The ONLY thing I can't stand for is abortion. I don't know how many of you leftys have kids. Probably none of you. But when I look at mine I think their lives and futures are worth fighting for. Most liberals would probably consider fighting for those that can't fight for themselves a noble thing. Unless it comes to an unborn child and then it's "fuck em! Scramble their brains and get em out of here. Their lives are MY CHOICE!"
The ONLY thing I can't stand for is abortion. I don't know how many of you leftys have kids. Probably none of you. But when I look at mine I think their lives and futures are worth fighting for. Most liberals would probably consider fighting for those that can't fight for themselves a noble thing. Unless it comes to an unborn child and then it's "fuck em! Scramble their brains and get em out of here. Their lives are MY CHOICE!"
Drink for emotional abortion issue Cysko
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Yes the party's are always diverse to an extent.
The republicans this year are mostly different in terms of foreign policy, tax plan, etc.
Generally they've been pretty strict on the social stuff, despite the majority of the population shifting left on social issues.
I mean I would vote for a republican despite the fact I support gay marriage, am pro-choice to the extent I described, and pro-recreational weed. But it kind of helps that I'm not gay, not a woman, and don't smoke weed
The core ideals of the republicans will shift towards a fiscal conservative approach over worrying so much about social things, IMO.
Party's change their platform all the time - as time goes by things change. The population is shifting left on the social side of things very,very,very fast.
And members must decide whether those platforms meet their goals or not.
There's nothing that says the Republican Party has to be fiscally conservative.
If the people want free shito and they lose votes because of that?
WSS
And members must decide whether those platforms meet their goals or not.
There's nothing that says the Republican Party has to be fiscally conservative.
If the people want free shito and they lose votes because of that?
WSS
Drink for free shot Steve
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I agree with the OP. Clinging to outdated, fading social ideals is no way to get elected.
Conservative social views have died off as liberal social views become the norm throughout history. The issues described in this thread are no different.
As the older generations die off so will this way of thinking. The Republicans will just adapt.
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
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I agree with the OP. Clinging to outdated, fading social ideals is no way to get elected.
Conservative social views have died off as liberal social views become the norm throughout history. The issues described in this thread are no different.
As the older generations die off so will this way of thinking. The Republicans will just adapt.
I agree with the OP. Clinging to outdated, fading social ideals is no way to get elected.
Conservative social views have died off as liberal social views become the norm throughout history. The issues described in this thread are no different.
As the older generations die off so will this way of thinking. The Republicans will just adapt.
Republicans will be forced to adapt or they will never win another election. In the not so distant future secular view points will be at the political forefront. The tea party exists because of religious extremists that worship the second amendment. Add in race and its a trifecta heinously out of touch with the youth of the nation. Currently the tea party is holding the GOP hostage and the usual establishment Republicans hate it. They sold their souls to the devil to gain control of Congress and in turn ruined the GOP.
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I didn't really intend for this to become a thread about abortion, and that wasn't really the main group of people I was suggesting the GOP was alienating. There are people on both sides that are for and against abortion in various scenarios.
As for the lack of central parties, if the tea party continues to push further to the right, and the democrats push further to the left, it wouldn't shock me to see a break in the parties. Maybe it would shock plenty of people there, and maybe it won't happen because people are just too ingrained in a two party system, I don't know.
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I agree with the OP. Clinging to outdated, fading social ideals is no way to get elected.
Conservative social views have died off as liberal social views become the norm throughout history. The issues described in this thread are no different.
As the older generations die off so will this way of thinking. The Republicans will just adapt.
Republicans will be forced to adapt or they will never win another election. In the not so distant future secular view points will be at the political forefront. The tea party exists because of religious extremists that worship the second amendment. Add in race and its a trifecta heinously out of touch with the youth of the nation. Currently the tea party is holding the GOP hostage and the usual establishment Republicans hate it. They sold their souls to the devil to gain control of Congress and in turn ruined the GOP.
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You aren't that stupid Walter. Right?
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
The ONLY thing I can't stand for is abortion. I don't know how many of you leftys have kids. Probably none of you. But when I look at mine I think their lives and futures are worth fighting for. Most liberals would probably consider fighting for those that can't fight for themselves a noble thing. Unless it comes to an unborn child and then it's "fuck em! Scramble their brains and get em out of here. Their lives are MY CHOICE!"
Drink for emotional abortion issue Cysko
Drink for emotional abortion issue Cysko
Yes it is emotional. I'm glad you're able to detach yourself like a serial killer. Good for you.
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You aren't that stupid Walter. Right?
Yea Liberal cities like Detrioit, DC, LA, and Chicago are a real treat of wealth and luxury for the common man.
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Look I'm a guy who legitimately feels guilty if I kill a spider. You're never going to be able to convince me to find abortion acceptable.
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You aren't that stupid Walter. Right?
He is
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That had to be rhetorical question of the year.
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You aren't that stupid Walter. Right?
You aren't that stupid, Woody, right?
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Okay, but your conclusions are giant jumps from the truth.
Being against a radical, offensive change to the defination of real marriage...
is not being "anti-gay".
We Americans are very tolerant. Gay whatever, they are free to do whatever, as long as they are not
intruding on others' rights.
For abortion, it's offensive - there are strict limits to what most Americans will accept in terms of emergency
legit reasons for it.
Which is extremely rare. Rare as in, more than extremely. Opinions sway with the times. There are times when
public opinion will trend upwards in favorability on an issue, then sway the reverse direction as time goes on,
and an acceptability of limited parts of an issue, is pushed into complete and open warfare - unrestricted.
Civil unions were the answer - as disgusting as the whole issue is, I saw no problem with that. Gay people have
rights too.
But........ that wasn't good enough. Even if you made civil unions with the same exact rights of real marraige,
which is impossible, considering real marriage easily results in children of the two married man and women...
and is impossible with the gay whatever garbage they want to call it outside of coopting "Marriage"...
but the culture war by the left knows no bounds.
Like weed - most people are tolerant of that. But make it legal for everybody to grow, which will cause
serious criminal trespassing problems? Hell no.
The majority of Americans are tolerant, but that doesn't NOT mean they don't want battles fought over the
never-ending push to the extremes of issues by the left.
All that is, is wishful thinking by the left. More and more, this country is being split down the middle, and the
folks squarely in the middle are not going to just turn into leftwing zealots because the liberals want them to.
as president, JFK and the dirtbag LBJ. DEM
Then Nixon and Ford REP
dirtbag Jimmy stupid Carter DEM
Excellent Ronald Reagan and fuddyduddy Bush sr. REP
Then Bill Clinton - DEM
Then Bush W. - REP
then, the marxist garbage ObaMao - DEMCOMMIE
The American people keep adjusting course to try to stay on the right course.
Right now, the leftist asswipes are taking America farther off course to the left than
ever before.
The illegal alien movement is just a spamming of our electoral process - to change the
demographics to have a majority totally dependent on the public welfare system -
tipping the scales to the dems. Of course they are illegally voting, just as the dems
are frantically fighting voter id laws - to support illegal voting.
Well the word "national" was omitted... and you know that if a door is left open Walter will go play in the street.
Meanwhile... feel like someone needs to address cal's lengthy post. Maybe it's rehash, but much of the early part appears discussable. Latter part... not so much.
Okay, but your conclusions are giant jumps from the truth.
Being against a radical, offensive change to the defination of real marriage... is not being "anti-gay".
We Americans are very tolerant. Gay whatever, they are free to do whatever, as long as they are not
intruding on others' rights.
For abortion, it's offensive - there are strict limits to what most Americans will accept in terms of emergency legit reasons for it.
Which is extremely rare. Rare as in, more than extremely. Opinions sway with the times. There are times when public opinion will trend upwards in favorability on an issue, then sway the reverse direction as time goes on, and an acceptability of limited parts of an issue, is pushed into complete and open warfare - unrestricted.
Civil unions were the answer - as disgusting as the whole issue is, I saw no problem with that. Gay people have rights too. But........ that wasn't good enough. Even if you made civil unions with the same exact rights of real marraige, which is impossible, considering real marriage easily results in children of the two married man and women...
and is impossible with the gay whatever garbage they want to call it outside of coopting "Marriage"...
but the culture war by the left knows no bounds.
Like weed - most people are tolerant of that. But make it legal for everybody to grow, which will cause
serious criminal trespassing problems? Hell no.
The majority of Americans are tolerant, but that doesn't NOT mean they don't want battles fought over the never-ending push to the extremes of issues by the left.
All that is, is wishful thinking by the left. More and more, this country is being split down the middle, and the folks squarely in the middle are not going to just turn into leftwing zealots because the liberals want them to.
as president, JFK and the dirtbag LBJ. DEM
Then Nixon and Ford REP
dirtbag Jimmy stupid Carter DEM
Excellent Ronald Reagan and fuddyduddy Bush sr. REP
Then Bill Clinton - DEM
Then Bush W. - REP
then, the marxist garbage ObaMao - DEMCOMMIE
The American people keep adjusting course to try to stay on the right course. Right now, the leftist asswipes are taking America farther off course to the left than ever before.
The illegal alien movement is just a spamming of our electoral process - to change the demographics to have a majority totally dependent on the public welfare system - tipping the scales to the dems. Of course they are illegally voting, just as the dems are frantically fighting voter id laws - to support illegal voting.
If no one else does, I may later...
I say go ahead and make it perfectly legal for any reason before the heart starts beating. That's roughly six weeks. After that...you're stuck. Sorry about your luck. Should have acted faster.
Viability has been the marker. Problem with it has been it is a moving target as neo-natal care/technology advances.
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Well the word "national" was omitted... and you know that if a door is left open Walter will go play in the street.
Meanwhile... feel like someone needs to address cal's lengthy post. Maybe it's rehash, but much of the early part appears discussable. Latter part... not so much.
Okay, but your conclusions are giant jumps from the truth.
Being against a radical, offensive change to the defination of real marriage... is not being "anti-gay".
We Americans are very tolerant. Gay whatever, they are free to do whatever, as long as they are not
intruding on others' rights.
For abortion, it's offensive - there are strict limits to what most Americans will accept in terms of emergency legit reasons for it.
Which is extremely rare. Rare as in, more than extremely. Opinions sway with the times. There are times when public opinion will trend upwards in favorability on an issue, then sway the reverse direction as time goes on, and an acceptability of limited parts of an issue, is pushed into complete and open warfare - unrestricted.
Civil unions were the answer - as disgusting as the whole issue is, I saw no problem with that. Gay people have rights too. But........ that wasn't good enough. Even if you made civil unions with the same exact rights of real marraige, which is impossible, considering real marriage easily results in children of the two married man and women...
and is impossible with the gay whatever garbage they want to call it outside of coopting "Marriage"...
but the culture war by the left knows no bounds.
Like weed - most people are tolerant of that. But make it legal for everybody to grow, which will cause
serious criminal trespassing problems? Hell no.
The majority of Americans are tolerant, but that doesn't NOT mean they don't want battles fought over the never-ending push to the extremes of issues by the left.
All that is, is wishful thinking by the left. More and more, this country is being split down the middle, and the folks squarely in the middle are not going to just turn into leftwing zealots because the liberals want them to.
as president, JFK and the dirtbag LBJ. DEM
Then Nixon and Ford REP
dirtbag Jimmy stupid Carter DEM
Excellent Ronald Reagan and fuddyduddy Bush sr. REP
Then Bill Clinton - DEM
Then Bush W. - REP
then, the marxist garbage ObaMao - DEMCOMMIE
The American people keep adjusting course to try to stay on the right course. Right now, the leftist asswipes are taking America farther off course to the left than ever before.
The illegal alien movement is just a spamming of our electoral process - to change the demographics to have a majority totally dependent on the public welfare system - tipping the scales to the dems. Of course they are illegally voting, just as the dems are frantically fighting voter id laws - to support illegal voting.
If no one else does, I may later...
I say go ahead and make it perfectly legal for any reason before the heart starts beating. That's roughly six weeks. After that...you're stuck. Sorry about your luck. Should have acted faster.
Viability has been the marker. Problem with it has been it is a moving target as neo-natal care/technology advances.
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You aren't that stupid Walter. Right?
You aren't that stupid, Woody, right?
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Well the word "national" was omitted... and you know that if a door is left open Walter will go play in the street.
Meanwhile... feel like someone needs to address cal's lengthy post. Maybe it's rehash, but much of the early part appears discussable. Latter part... not so much.
Okay, but your conclusions are giant jumps from the truth.
Being against a radical, offensive change to the defination of real marriage... is not being "anti-gay".
We Americans are very tolerant. Gay whatever, they are free to do whatever, as long as they are not
intruding on others' rights.
For abortion, it's offensive - there are strict limits to what most Americans will accept in terms of emergency legit reasons for it.
Which is extremely rare. Rare as in, more than extremely. Opinions sway with the times. There are times when public opinion will trend upwards in favorability on an issue, then sway the reverse direction as time goes on, and an acceptability of limited parts of an issue, is pushed into complete and open warfare - unrestricted.
Civil unions were the answer - as disgusting as the whole issue is, I saw no problem with that. Gay people have rights too. But........ that wasn't good enough. Even if you made civil unions with the same exact rights of real marraige, which is impossible, considering real marriage easily results in children of the two married man and women...
and is impossible with the gay whatever garbage they want to call it outside of coopting "Marriage"...
but the culture war by the left knows no bounds.
Like weed - most people are tolerant of that. But make it legal for everybody to grow, which will cause
serious criminal trespassing problems? Hell no.
The majority of Americans are tolerant, but that doesn't NOT mean they don't want battles fought over the never-ending push to the extremes of issues by the left.
All that is, is wishful thinking by the left. More and more, this country is being split down the middle, and the folks squarely in the middle are not going to just turn into leftwing zealots because the liberals want them to.
as president, JFK and the dirtbag LBJ. DEM
Then Nixon and Ford REP
dirtbag Jimmy stupid Carter DEM
Excellent Ronald Reagan and fuddyduddy Bush sr. REP
Then Bill Clinton - DEM
Then Bush W. - REP
then, the marxist garbage ObaMao - DEMCOMMIE
The American people keep adjusting course to try to stay on the right course. Right now, the leftist asswipes are taking America farther off course to the left than ever before.
The illegal alien movement is just a spamming of our electoral process - to change the demographics to have a majority totally dependent on the public welfare system - tipping the scales to the dems. Of course they are illegally voting, just as the dems are frantically fighting voter id laws - to support illegal voting.
If no one else does, I may later...
I say go ahead and make it perfectly legal for any reason before the heart starts beating. That's roughly six weeks. After that...you're stuck. Sorry about your luck. Should have acted faster.
Viability has been the marker. Problem with it has been it is a moving target as neo-natal care/technology advances.
The fetus is already alive well before it can exist on its own outside the womb.Well the word "national" was omitted... and you know that if a door is left open Walter will go play in the street.
Meanwhile... feel like someone needs to address cal's lengthy post. Maybe it's rehash, but much of the early part appears discussable. Latter part... not so much.
If no one else does, I may later...
Viability has been the marker. Problem with it has been it is a moving target as neo-natal care/technology advances.
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