Jonathan Paul Manziel
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I would expect the normal ups and downs with the ups getting better and the downs less of a dip as time on the field increases just like any new starting QB. At least you all now have a better understanding of how hard he tries when placed out there. It is still hard to imagine that he did not fall completely apart after that neck twister. No one would have blamed him for bailing early and often rather than hang in the rest of the day as he did.
And thank you Josh McCown for coming in her to be the tutor he really needed and the role model for what a QB and a man needs to be in the NFL. Immense respect for how he has handled all of this and done everything possible to get a younger player ready for this time knowing all the while he would be giving up the job. You played far better than any of us expected. And you are a real warrior. Hats off Josh!
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Plus, the next game is Monday night. Johnny will either light it up or crash and burn in front of millions...
Plus, the next game is Monday night. Johnny will either light it up or crash and burn in front of millions...
Something tells me he lights it up.....and Im no Johnny lubber......
He seemed different in his pressy this week.....he's feeling it and is pumped up....all new body language and rapid fire answers to their questions.....
I think right NOW is the perfect time.....and the one they've been waiting for.....
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Plus, the next game is Monday night. Johnny will either light it up or crash and burn in front of millions...
Something tells me he lights it up.....and Im no Johnny lubber......
He seemed different in his pressy this week.....he's feeling it and is pumped up....all new body language and rapid fire answers to their questions.....
I think right NOW is the perfect time.....and the one they've been waiting for.....
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I gotta admit, this makes the final games pretty darn interesting. Hopefully he stays healthy and continues to improve, and who knows.... maybe the kid will end up being our guy after all.
Hopefully Jimmy, er Mike, makes the same types of decisions regarding Duke, Gilbert, Irving, ect...
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Plus, the next game is Monday night. Johnny will either light it up or crash and burn in front of millions...
Something tells me he lights it up.....and Im no Johnny lubber......
He seemed different in his pressy this week.....he's feeling it and is pumped up....all new body language and rapid fire answers to their questions.....
I think right NOW is the perfect time.....and the one they've been waiting for.....
Something tells me he lights it up.....and Im no Johnny lubber......
He seemed different in his pressy this week.....he's feeling it and is pumped up....all new body language and rapid fire answers to their questions.....
I think right NOW is the perfect time.....and the one they've been waiting for.....
Lot of time on his hands now it's bye week, lets hope his head is in a playbook and not downtown Cleveland!
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Something tells me he lights it up.....and Im no Johnny lubber......
He seemed different in his pressy this week.....he's feeling it and is pumped up....all new body language and rapid fire answers to their questions.....
I think right NOW is the perfect time.....and the one they've been waiting for.....
Lot of time on his hands now it's bye week, lets hope his head is in a playbook and not downtown Cleveland!
Lot of time on his hands now it's bye week, lets hope his head is in a playbook and not downtown Cleveland!
It's a good decision to start Johnny.
Let's just hope the kid can stay off the 6 o'clock news.
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I would expect the normal ups and downs with the ups getting better and the downs less of a dip as time on the field increases just like any new starting QB. At least you all now have a better understanding of how hard he tries when placed out there. It is still hard to imagine that he did not fall completely apart after that neck twister. No one would have blamed him for bailing early and often rather than hang in the rest of the day as he did.
And thank you Josh McCown for coming in her to be the tutor he really needed and the role model for what a QB and a man needs to be in the NFL. Immense respect for how he has handled all of this and done everything possible to get a younger player ready for this time knowing all the while he would be giving up the job. You played far better than any of us expected. And you are a real warrior. Hats off Josh!
And thank you Josh McCown for coming in her to be the tutor he really needed and the role model for what a QB and a man needs to be in the NFL. Immense respect for how he has handled all of this and done everything possible to get a younger player ready for this time knowing all the while he would be giving up the job. You played far better than any of us expected. And you are a real warrior. Hats off Josh!
Excellent post right here.....Josh did not lose this job(ala Hoyer, last year).....he's a baller and first class everything...
Yesterday he was talking about Johnny and how he was ready to be his back up, whenever that happened....so Im not surprised to hear this today, cause Josh kinda sounded like thats where it was going........he'll be a great back up....
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Something tells me he lights it up.....and Im no Johnny lubber......
He seemed different in his pressy this week.....he's feeling it and is pumped up....all new body language and rapid fire answers to their questions.....
I think right NOW is the perfect time.....and the one they've been waiting for.....
Lot of time on his hands now it's bye week, lets hope his head is in a playbook and not downtown Cleveland!
Lot of time on his hands now it's bye week, lets hope his head is in a playbook and not downtown Cleveland!
I suspect he never leaves the facilities. He may be many things, but dummy isn't one of them. I think he really is starting to get it, not just fake it. All credit belongs to the OC, coach and especially Josh. Throw in those on the team who have had his back in the worst of times when the rest of us, me included, were about ready to cook his goose if drastic changes didn't occur.
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hopefully Johnny plays well but we still lose cause I want a high draft pick this year. If johnny plays well he might up his trade value. I mean I like the kid and wouldn't mind if he stayed, but if Dallas see's him really playing well they might part with their 1st rounder for him. We might have to throw in another player but i'm fine with that, this whole damn team nearly can get firesale'd. Two high 1st round picks next year could change the team.
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Lot of time on his hands now it's bye week, lets hope his head is in a playbook and not downtown Cleveland!
I suspect he never leaves the facilities. He may be many things, but dummy isn't one of them. I think he really is starting to get it, not just fake it. All credit belongs to the OC, coach and especially Josh. Throw in those on the team who have had his back in the worst of times when the rest of us, me included, were about ready to cook his goose if drastic changes didn't occur.
I suspect he never leaves the facilities. He may be many things, but dummy isn't one of them. I think he really is starting to get it, not just fake it. All credit belongs to the OC, coach and especially Josh. Throw in those on the team who have had his back in the worst of times when the rest of us, me included, were about ready to cook his goose if drastic changes didn't occur.
Let's not get too carried away, he's been named starter for 6 games, not won the superbowl!
Anyway, my head says "good call, let's see what he can do in a prime position, and evaluate at the end of the year whether we can move forward with him as starter, hopefully he shows progress" while my heart says "fuck yeah! here comes johnny football!"
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Lot of time on his hands now it's bye week, lets hope his head is in a playbook and not downtown Cleveland!
I suspect he never leaves the facilities. He may be many things, but dummy isn't one of them. I think he really is starting to get it, not just fake it. All credit belongs to the OC, coach and especially Josh. Throw in those on the team who have had his back in the worst of times when the rest of us, me included, were about ready to cook his goose if drastic changes didn't occur.
I suspect he never leaves the facilities. He may be many things, but dummy isn't one of them.
HA!...Agree again.....cant believe he would even consider doing something dumb this week......fingers crossed but not really worried
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There's also a good chance we see Mccown again by the end of the season cause I suspect JM might get hit a lot. I have zero faith our O line can keep our QB healthy for even half a season.
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Josh is a great backup. He knows his role. That's where he is. He's old and on top of that he's hurt. We invested a first round pick in this guy and it's time for him to play. Not a half assed game here or there. It's time for him to start
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And thank you Josh McCown for coming in her to be the tutor he really needed and the role model for what a QB and a man needs to be in the NFL. Immense respect for how he has handled all of this and done everything possible to get a younger player ready for this time knowing all the while he would be giving up the job. You played far better than any of us expected. And you are a real warrior. Hats off Josh!
Excellent post right here.....Josh did not lose this job(ala Hoyer, last year).....he's a baller and first class everything...
Yesterday he was talking about Johnny and how he was ready to be his back up, whenever that happened....so Im not surprised to hear this today, cause Josh kinda sounded like thats where it was going........he'll be a great back up....
Excellent post right here.....Josh did not lose this job(ala Hoyer, last year).....he's a baller and first class everything...
Yesterday he was talking about Johnny and how he was ready to be his back up, whenever that happened....so Im not surprised to hear this today, cause Josh kinda sounded like thats where it was going........he'll be a great back up....
If I were in the FO Josh would be given an additional 2 years more with the Browns on top of what they gave him already. He has given everything they asked and 100% more!! He is a great coach on the field too. He spent a ton of time on the sideline discussing everything with JM in between possessions when JM has been playing.
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Can only echo the McCown posts above, his comments yesterday on the whole situation were so admirable. He's a tremendous teammate.
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Here is Josh's interview from yesterday. I like what he says @ the 10 minute mark on in terms of what JM needs to do. I'm damn glad he is there to guide him through it.
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There's also a good chance we see Mccown again by the end of the season cause I suspect JM might get hit a lot. I have zero faith our O line can keep our QB healthy for even half a season.
There's also a good chance we see Mccown again by the end of the season cause I suspect JM might get hit a lot. I have zero faith our O line can keep our QB healthy for even half a season.
Our OL is one of the best in the league (especially in pass pro), leave them alone
Their biggest issue is penalties as a unit, otherwise they're solid.
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There's also a good chance we see Mccown again by the end of the season cause I suspect JM might get hit a lot. I have zero faith our O line can keep our QB healthy for even half a season.
Our OL is one of the best in the league (especially in pass pro), leave them alone
Their biggest issue is penalties as a unit, otherwise they're solid.
Our OL is one of the best in the league (especially in pass pro), leave them alone
Their biggest issue is penalties as a unit, otherwise they're solid.
Hmmm...not sure I agree. Run blocking has been horrendous.
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Hmmm...not sure I agree. Run blocking has been horrendous.
Running back and fullback have been horrendous. Play calling could also be a factor, but the OL is pretty good at run blocking too - but there's more to a run play than just those 5.
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I will be reposting this in every single thread where someone asserts that the O line is terrible.
The O-line is the second best in the league.
The problem with the run game is not the O line.
If you think otherwise, you're objectively wrong. If being wrong is your thing, don't change!
The more labels you have for yourself, the dumber they make you. "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." Paul Brown
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