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  • @mudfly said:

    Something tells me he lights it up.....and Im no Johnny lubber......

    He seemed different in his pressy this week.....he's feeling it and is pumped up....all new body language and rapid fire answers to their questions.....

    I think right NOW is the perfect time.....and the one they've been waiting for.....

    Lot of time on his hands now it's bye week, lets hope his head is in a playbook and not downtown Cleveland!

    @londonbrown said:

    Lot of time on his hands now it's bye week, lets hope his head is in a playbook and not downtown Cleveland!

    I suspect he never leaves the facilities. He may be many things, but dummy isn't one of them. I think he really is starting to get it, not just fake it. All credit belongs to the OC, coach and especially Josh. Throw in those on the team who have had his back in the worst of times when the rest of us, me included, were about ready to cook his goose if drastic changes didn't occur.

  • hopefully Johnny plays well but we still lose cause I want a high draft pick this year. If johnny plays well he might up his trade value. I mean I like the kid and wouldn't mind if he stayed, but if Dallas see's him really playing well they might part with their 1st rounder for him. We might have to throw in another player but i'm fine with that, this whole damn team nearly can get firesale'd. Two high 1st round picks next year could change the team.

  • @londonbrown said:

    Lot of time on his hands now it's bye week, lets hope his head is in a playbook and not downtown Cleveland!

    I suspect he never leaves the facilities. He may be many things, but dummy isn't one of them. I think he really is starting to get it, not just fake it. All credit belongs to the OC, coach and especially Josh. Throw in those on the team who have had his back in the worst of times when the rest of us, me included, were about ready to cook his goose if drastic changes didn't occur.

    @texasag1969 said:

    I suspect he never leaves the facilities. He may be many things, but dummy isn't one of them. I think he really is starting to get it, not just fake it. All credit belongs to the OC, coach and especially Josh. Throw in those on the team who have had his back in the worst of times when the rest of us, me included, were about ready to cook his goose if drastic changes didn't occur.

    Let's not get too carried away, he's been named starter for 6 games, not won the superbowl!

    Anyway, my head says "good call, let's see what he can do in a prime position, and evaluate at the end of the year whether we can move forward with him as starter, hopefully he shows progress" while my heart says "fuck yeah! here comes johnny football!"

  • @londonbrown said:

    Lot of time on his hands now it's bye week, lets hope his head is in a playbook and not downtown Cleveland!

    I suspect he never leaves the facilities. He may be many things, but dummy isn't one of them. I think he really is starting to get it, not just fake it. All credit belongs to the OC, coach and especially Josh. Throw in those on the team who have had his back in the worst of times when the rest of us, me included, were about ready to cook his goose if drastic changes didn't occur.

    @texasag1969 said:

    I suspect he never leaves the facilities. He may be many things, but dummy isn't one of them.

    HA!...Agree again.....cant believe he would even consider doing something dumb this week......fingers crossed but not really worried

  • There's also a good chance we see Mccown again by the end of the season cause I suspect JM might get hit a lot. I have zero faith our O line can keep our QB healthy for even half a season.

  • Josh is a great backup. He knows his role. That's where he is. He's old and on top of that he's hurt. We invested a first round pick in this guy and it's time for him to play. Not a half assed game here or there. It's time for him to start

  • @texasag1969 said:

    And thank you Josh McCown for coming in her to be the tutor he really needed and the role model for what a QB and a man needs to be in the NFL. Immense respect for how he has handled all of this and done everything possible to get a younger player ready for this time knowing all the while he would be giving up the job. You played far better than any of us expected. And you are a real warrior. Hats off Josh!

    Excellent post right here.....Josh did not lose this job(ala Hoyer, last year).....he's a baller and first class everything...

    Yesterday he was talking about Johnny and how he was ready to be his back up, whenever that happened....so Im not surprised to hear this today, cause Josh kinda sounded like thats where it was going........he'll be a great back up....

    @mudfly said:

    Excellent post right here.....Josh did not lose this job(ala Hoyer, last year).....he's a baller and first class everything...

    Yesterday he was talking about Johnny and how he was ready to be his back up, whenever that happened....so Im not surprised to hear this today, cause Josh kinda sounded like thats where it was going........he'll be a great back up....

    If I were in the FO Josh would be given an additional 2 years more with the Browns on top of what they gave him already. He has given everything they asked and 100% more!! He is a great coach on the field too. He spent a ton of time on the sideline discussing everything with JM in between possessions when JM has been playing.

  • Can only echo the McCown posts above, his comments yesterday on the whole situation were so admirable. He's a tremendous teammate.

  • Here is Josh's interview from yesterday. I like what he says @ the 10 minute mark on in terms of what JM needs to do. I'm damn glad he is there to guide him through it.

    http://www.clevelandbrowns.com/news/article-5/Josh-McCown-%E2%80%98very-proud%E2%80%99-of-Johnny-Manziel-loved-QB%E2%80%99s-pocket-presence/60bdf7ab-3a81-4c7b-9962-59ff7a28c23c

  • There's also a good chance we see Mccown again by the end of the season cause I suspect JM might get hit a lot. I have zero faith our O line can keep our QB healthy for even half a season.

    @clevfan4life said:

    There's also a good chance we see Mccown again by the end of the season cause I suspect JM might get hit a lot. I have zero faith our O line can keep our QB healthy for even half a season.

    Our OL is one of the best in the league (especially in pass pro), leave them alone 🙁

    Their biggest issue is penalties as a unit, otherwise they're solid.

  • @clevfan4life said:

    There's also a good chance we see Mccown again by the end of the season cause I suspect JM might get hit a lot. I have zero faith our O line can keep our QB healthy for even half a season.

    Our OL is one of the best in the league (especially in pass pro), leave them alone 🙁

    Their biggest issue is penalties as a unit, otherwise they're solid.

    @bbedward said:

    Our OL is one of the best in the league (especially in pass pro), leave them alone 🙁

    Their biggest issue is penalties as a unit, otherwise they're solid.

    Hmmm...not sure I agree. Run blocking has been horrendous.

  • @bbedward said:

    Our OL is one of the best in the league (especially in pass pro), leave them alone 🙁

    Their biggest issue is penalties as a unit, otherwise they're solid.

    Hmmm...not sure I agree. Run blocking has been horrendous.

    @gernthefish said:

    Hmmm...not sure I agree. Run blocking has been horrendous.

    Running back and fullback have been horrendous. Play calling could also be a factor, but the OL is pretty good at run blocking too - but there's more to a run play than just those 5.

  • I will be reposting this in every single thread where someone asserts that the O line is terrible.

    The O-line is the second best in the league.

    The problem with the run game is not the O line.

    If you think otherwise, you're objectively wrong. If being wrong is your thing, don't change!

  • @bbedward said:

    Our OL is one of the best in the league (especially in pass pro), leave them alone 🙁

    Their biggest issue is penalties as a unit, otherwise they're solid.

    Hmmm...not sure I agree. Run blocking has been horrendous.

    @gernthefish said:

    Hmmm...not sure I agree. Run blocking has been horrendous.

    If only there were other positions that were also involved in run blocking...

  • This is the correct decision imo and I think shows that Pettine can make the sorts of decisions which some doubted he could. And spot on TexasAG1969, great posts.

  • I will be reposting this in every single thread where someone asserts that the O line is terrible.

    The O-line is the second best in the league.

    The problem with the run game is not the O line.

    If you think otherwise, you're objectively wrong. If being wrong is your thing, don't change!

    @unsympathetic said:

    I will be reposting this in every single thread where someone asserts that the O line is terrible.

    The O-line is the second best in the league.

    The problem with the run game is not the O line.

    If you think otherwise, you're objectively wrong. If being wrong is your thing, don't change!

    PFF is garbage.

  • hopefully Johnny plays well but we still lose cause I want a high draft pick this year. If johnny plays well he might up his trade value. I mean I like the kid and wouldn't mind if he stayed, but if Dallas see's him really playing well they might part with their 1st rounder for him. We might have to throw in another player but i'm fine with that, this whole damn team nearly can get firesale'd. Two high 1st round picks next year could change the team.

    @clevfan4life said:

    hopefully Johnny plays well but we still lose cause I want a high draft pick this year. If johnny plays well he might up his trade value. I mean I like the kid and wouldn't mind if he stayed, but if Dallas see's him really playing well they might part with their 1st rounder for him. We might have to throw in another player but i'm fine with that, this whole damn team nearly can get firesale'd. Two high 1st round picks next year could change the team.

    No, they're playing the Ratbirds and need to win.

  • @unsympathetic said:

    I will be reposting this in every single thread where someone asserts that the O line is terrible.

    The O-line is the second best in the league.

    The problem with the run game is not the O line.

    If you think otherwise, you're objectively wrong. If being wrong is your thing, don't change!

    PFF is garbage.

    @logicisforsquares said:

    PFF is garbage.

    You've got zero backing that up. Your words mean nothing.

    Unless and until you show something MORE accurate and MORE applicable than pff's methods, they are correct.

  • The OL is 5 guys. Many defensive fronts have at least 6 guys.

    We have the worst full back in the NFL (1), Gary B has been uber reliable this year as a pass catcher but not so much as a blocker (2), Crowell either chooses the wrong hole or waits too long before choosing the right one and DJ has been OK (3) We give up on the run way too early in games (4)

    At least 4 reasons other than the OL that we have a terrible run game.

  • @columbusking said:

    Absolutely no reason why he shouldn't.