Jonathan Paul Manziel
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This was from weeks ago, supposedly.
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Who cares?
He won't be here next year. The same for the coaches and the GM
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This was from weeks ago, supposedly.
This was from weeks ago, supposedly.
I was wondering about the timeline, since he was in Columbus on Saturday and Cleveland today.
I think players were off from Wednesday through Sunday, hoping he stayed local and took preparations seriously.
Zombo
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Who cares?
He won't be here next year. The same for the coaches and the GM
got a six pack says you are WRONG.
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He did nothing wrong.Took a couple days to go home and relax. Maybe a break with a good practice week translates in a butt thumping fun time next Monday
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I hope I'm wrong.
But, from what we have seen in the past, everyone is gone
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And here we have Johnny bagging apples with the Glenville football team at the food bank this afternoon. . .
yo yo yo. what hat is manziel wearing? that is something i'd buy.
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Mingo, unknown, Johnny, Cambell, & Desir at the Greater Cleveland Foodbank
That unknown is SANTA!!!
Mike
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Mingo, unknown, Johnny, Cambell, & Desir at the Greater Cleveland Foodbank
That unknown is SANTA!!!
Mike
I think you're right!That unknown is SANTA!!!
Mike
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That's clearly an 80-year-old Joe Thomas, still playing left tackle, still not missing a snap, still going to the pro bowl, still not seeing a playoff game.
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Mingo, unknown, Johnny, Cambell, & Desir at the Greater Cleveland Foodbank
That unknown is SANTA!!!
Mike
That unknown is SANTA!!!
Mike
aha. You are correct. I think Josh McCown is taller.
WSS
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I think the unknown guy is not Santa, but it may be the dude that supplies Santa with his magic snuff.
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From the article I read, Manziel insinuated that the video was old, but he also didn't deny anything. He was very vague and he wanted to discuss his visit to the food bank and the importance of service to the community.
I want to give him the benefit of the doubt, I really do, but has he deserved it? I'm not saying what he did was wrong, and nobody here knows the details of his treatment plan. Maybe he's allowed to go out to clubs and the coaches are fine with it. But here's the thing...it's all about the PERCEPTION. Manziel has to know that anything he does is going to be all over the internet, and he has to know that it's going to cause a distraction. I'm not saying it's FAIR, but it's the way it is.
I would love nothing more than to read that this incident was old, and it doesn't matter. But I just don't think we're going to hear that.
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What exactly is the problem here? Rich young man goes to bar?
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What exactly is the problem here? Rich young man goes to bar?
I largely agree with you. It's tricky because we have a young man who went through a very public, and lengthy rehab treatment, and he promised NOT to be a distraction and not do anything to embarrass the franchise. It's all about perception. And the perception isn't good...regardless of how innocent his socializing might have been. He HAD to know that his actions would be plastered all over the internet, and he had to know the reaction wouldn't be good.
Aside from the non-football stuff, what really concerns me is trying to gauge Johnny's performance over the next 6 games when he has no running game, and no playmaking wr's. Is it really fair to evaluate this guy when he has such limited weapons? I don't think Johnny will be judged solely on wins or losses, after all, it's a team game, but it's not easy to judge a young QB when he has to do so much with so little.
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The perception counts for precisely shit all. For all we know, he was in rehab for a gambling addiction and went to this club and didn't touch a drop of alcohol, but because of some people's 'perception' he's now in the shit?
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What exactly is the problem here? Rich young man goes to bar?
I largely agree with you. It's tricky because we have a young man who went through a very public, and lengthy rehab treatment, and he promised NOT to be a distraction and not do anything to embarrass the franchise. It's all about perception. And the perception isn't good...regardless of how innocent his socializing might have been. He HAD to know that his actions would be plastered all over the internet, and he had to know the reaction wouldn't be good.
Aside from the non-football stuff, what really concerns me is trying to gauge Johnny's performance over the next 6 games when he has no running game, and no playmaking wr's. Is it really fair to evaluate this guy when he has such limited weapons? I don't think Johnny will be judged solely on wins or losses, after all, it's a team game, but it's not easy to judge a young QB when he has to do so much with so little.
Aside from the non-football stuff, what really concerns me is trying to gauge Johnny's performance over the next 6 games when he has no running game, and no playmaking wr's. Is it really fair to evaluate this guy when he has such limited weapons? I don't think Johnny will be judged solely on wins or losses, after all, it's a team game, but it's not easy to judge a young QB when he has to do so much with so little.
No, no one should ever be judged with less than ideal surroundings in the NFL. Coaches aren't smart enough to do that. We will have to wait to judge him when he has a good running game, plenty of stud receivers and unicorns floating above him shooting rainbows out of their asses.
Zombo
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