Jonathan Paul Manziel
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Because he did nothing wrong. And I'm not a fanboy, I could give a shit less who starts.
But a coaching staff that tries to coach players on what they are allowed to do on their own time, during a bye week, is no coaching staff that I would ever fucking want in this city.
The only disgrace here is how Pettine handles adult, professional football players. And I'm not the only one who feels that way.
https://mobile.twitter.com/Mr_KevinJones/status/669256341396054017
And for those that claim the front office was "in" on this decision - this is from Pettine's own mouth:
"GM and the owner are certainly 2 people I want to keep in the loop but it was simply to inform them of what we had decided"
Pettine KNOWS he's fired. So he was looking for any and all reason to bench Manziel. This was a complete non-story, ask Duke Johnson, ask Peter King - they've all voiced their opinion on this story.
Mike Pettine has absolutely no fucking say whatsoever on what a player does in their down time - he is not their employer. He doesn't sign their checks, nor does he have the ability to release them carte blanche. Pettine is nothing more than a supervisor, and a bad one at that. The only control Pettine has is whether or not to play Manziel, and he's executed that right - to the dismay of the fanbase and likely the owner as well. Regardless of what was said Manziel "promised" he would do, he's a free adult with a essentially a 14 day vacation. He volunteered, he took photos with fans at the Ohio State game, and he went to a nightclub. Hardly a fucking distraction - yet now it's blown entirely out of proportion because the only fans left of this shithole franchise are old enough to have watched Otto Graham play in person.
If you want to call this a violation of team rules - so be it. But don't act like Manziel did anything wrong, because he didn't.
I absolutely cannot wait for Mike Pettine to be fired. I think I'll relish that day more than when we beat Pittsburgh. The dude is a monumental fuckup with absolutely zero clue of how to be a professional head coach.
The post of a spoiled fanboy who didnt get what he wanted.
The post of a spoiled fanboy who didnt get what he wanted.
I wanted Bortles, but thanks for trying.
I'd argue with you, but you've never been one for logical thinking...or any thinking for that matter...so I'll just end it there.
I'm awesome, and I fuck dolphins. Ghoolie 12/2/2012: I have absolutely no skills, training or pride -
So Pettine is a slave driver? He dictates what players do on their own time? No wonder no one good ever wants to play for the Browns.
So Pettine is a slave driver? He dictates what players do on their own time? No wonder no one good ever wants to play for the Browns.
Only 1 of the 53 have a problem............ Hmmmmmm, I wonder if it's the other 52's, Pettine's or the 1's fault.......... Hmmmmm, tough question, I guess the world will never know.
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A terrible player makes terrible decisions.
Who's shocked?
I cry no crocodile tears. Manziel did this to himself.
Next.
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I wanted Bortles, but thanks for trying.
I'd argue with you, but you've never been one for logical thinking...or any thinking for that matter...so I'll just end it there.
The feeling is mutual. Now go hug Johnny's nuts and get drunk with him.. You two deserve each other.
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I wanted Bortles, but thanks for trying.
I'd argue with you, but you've never been one for logical thinking...or any thinking for that matter...so I'll just end it there.
The feeling is mutual. Now go hug Johnny's nuts and get drunk with him.. You two deserve each other.
The feeling is mutual. Now go hug Johnny's nuts and get drunk with him.. You two deserve each other.
I see reading comprehension isn't your strong point. Get your husband to explain it to you.
I'm awesome, and I fuck dolphins. Ghoolie 12/2/2012: I have absolutely no skills, training or pride -
So Pettine is a slave driver? He dictates what players do on their own time? No wonder no one good ever wants to play for the Browns.
Only 1 of the 53 have a problem............ Hmmmmmm, I wonder if it's the other 52's, Pettine's or the 1's fault.......... Hmmmmm, tough question, I guess the world will never know.
Only 1 of the 53 have a problem............ Hmmmmmm, I wonder if it's the other 52's, Pettine's or the 1's fault.......... Hmmmmm, tough question, I guess the world will never know.
You mean to tell me every other player on the roster stayed home and studied their playbook this bye week? They didn't go anywhere? You mean every player is completely fine with how this coaching staff handles their players? Oh man, that's something to think about.
I'm awesome, and I fuck dolphins. Ghoolie 12/2/2012: I have absolutely no skills, training or pride -
Just to inject a little humor, how funny would it be if McCown and Davis got hurt somehow and Manziel had to come in? That would be such a Cleveland Browns event to occur.
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I see reading comprehension isn't your strong point. Get your husband to explain it to you.
No. I clearly saw you wanted Bortles.. But you and Johnny are cut from the same drunken mold.. your the one that missed it.
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I see reading comprehension isn't your strong point. Get your husband to explain it to you.
No. I clearly saw you wanted Bortles.. But you and Johnny are cut from the same drunken mold.. your the one that missed it.
No. I clearly saw you wanted Bortles.. But you and Johnny are cut from the same drunken mold.. your the one that missed it.
My the one?
I have a drink maybe twice a month. I'm just not 800 years old.
This isn't the olden days were players showered after games and took the trolley down to the quarter store and picked up a a handful of taffy for a nickel, then walked home and listened to Roy Rogers on the radio.
I'm awesome, and I fuck dolphins. Ghoolie 12/2/2012: I have absolutely no skills, training or pride -
Is there a concern for setting a precident in how Pettine and the organization is acting with JFF? There is no doubt he has/had a problem. But there is also no doubt what they were drafting in JFF.
Can the micro management of JFF keep other potential draftees and free agents from wanting to come and play? I think that is a legit question. NFL is not a league of altar boys, yet we are demanding that of one player on the team. How are we going to draft in the future knowing how JFF is turning out for us?
The media created the monster of JFF, and now they want to kill the Frankenstien they created. And listen, I totally get that JFF fucked up, I do. But part of me has to look at the Browns organization and go, "YOU FUCKING DRAFTED THE KID KNOWING WHAT HE WAS". We are a 2-8 football team. We have a first round pick, that has issues. Perhaps letting JFF play, showing him a little forgivness, may actually change is behaviour. But then again, how many chanced do you give him.
There is also the part of me that is dissappointed. I wanted to see JFF play. I wanted to see our offense have more excitement. But now, we will either see McC throw for 500 yards or get sacked 10 times and destroyed. I don't know. This has to be one of the most dissappointing seasons since 99. Was really hoping to have a winning record after a 7-9 season and tanking last year, but alas, here we are again, shitting the bed and with all the wrong publicity.
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Just to inject a little humor, how funny would it be if McCown and Davis got hurt somehow and Manziel had to come in? That would be such a Cleveland Browns event to occur.
Just to inject a little humor, how funny would it be if McCown and Davis got hurt somehow and Manziel had to come in? That would be such a Cleveland Browns event to occur.
I think it would be even funnier if Terrance West got tackled into Pettine on the sideline and they both exploded.
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Only 1 of the 53 have a problem............ Hmmmmmm, I wonder if it's the other 52's, Pettine's or the 1's fault.......... Hmmmmm, tough question, I guess the world will never know.
You mean to tell me every other player on the roster stayed home and studied their playbook this bye week? They didn't go anywhere? You mean every player is completely fine with how this coaching staff handles their players? Oh man, that's something to think about.
You mean to tell me every other player on the roster stayed home and studied their playbook this bye week? They didn't go anywhere? You mean every player is completely fine with how this coaching staff handles their players? Oh man, that's something to think about.
Poor John. The world is just so mean to the lil' fella. Everyone else is the problem. It's just soooo unfair.
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You mean to tell me every other player on the roster stayed home and studied their playbook this bye week? They didn't go anywhere? You mean every player is completely fine with how this coaching staff handles their players? Oh man, that's something to think about.
Poor John. The world is just so mean to the lil' fella. Everyone else is the problem. It's just soooo unfair.
Poor John. The world is just so mean to the lil' fella. Everyone else is the problem. It's just soooo unfair.
I don't give a fuck about John or his plight. I care that this is just setting us even further behind the ball.
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I don't give a fuck about John or his plight. I care that this is just setting us even further behind the ball.
We agree on that, for sure. Problem is, that train started down the track the second the Browns turned in the card that had Johnny Manziel written on it. A bad draft pick (what else is new) and a high one at that (again, what else is new).
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No. I clearly saw you wanted Bortles.. But you and Johnny are cut from the same drunken mold.. your the one that missed it.
My the one?
I have a drink maybe twice a month. I'm just not 800 years old.
This isn't the olden days were players showered after games and took the trolley down to the quarter store and picked up a a handful of taffy for a nickel, then walked home and listened to Roy Rogers on the radio.
My the one?
I have a drink maybe twice a month. I'm just not 800 years old.
This isn't the olden days were players showered after games and took the trolley down to the quarter store and picked up a a handful of taffy for a nickel, then walked home and listened to Roy Rogers on the radio.
No shit Charlie!
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This scenario was talked about on Sportscenter & Sirius/XM.
If Haslam blows this thing up, what are the chances of JM staying on the roster?
They all agreed that the new regime wouldn't want Manziel on the roster.
Two things that will define you: Your determination when you have nothing. Your attitude when you have everything. - Mike McCartney -
This scenario was talked about on Sportscenter & Sirius/XM.
If Haslam blows this thing up, what are the chances of JM staying on the roster?
They all agreed that the new regime wouldn't want Manziel on the roster.
This scenario was talked about on Sportscenter & Sirius/XM.
If Haslam blows this thing up, what are the chances of JM staying on the roster?
They all agreed that the new regime wouldn't want Manziel on the roster.
He is as good as gone. Not another snap for the Browns, ever.
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Adam schefter reports chip kelly and Philly are on the outs
Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind... -
One thing that may come up is whether or not he is in the NFL substance abuse program......and I think there is a very good chance that he is.....
Reading the policy, he meets ALL the criteria for the program. With his college issues and very visible drinking habits, then a public admission followed by rehab.....he "should" be at minimum, stage one in the program.....My guess is he could be stage 2.....we will soon find out....
One of the interesting aspects to the new policy is that you can avoid your first suspension by obtaining "treatment"(ala rehab) for your problem. But continued use of that or ANY substance(including alcohol, ask Josh) will get you fined and or suspended.....
So, I would not be surprised to hear he has an upcoming suspension...4 games?....10 games?.....
And I could be 100% wrong......but if you read the policy....its all there in black and white....
And, before anyone says "we would know"... the fine for leaking any info is $500,000
One thing that may come up is whether or not he is in the NFL substance abuse program......and I think there is a very good chance that he is.....
Reading the policy, he meets ALL the criteria for the program. With his college issues and very visible drinking habits, then a public admission followed by rehab.....he "should" be at minimum, stage one in the program.....My guess is he could be stage 2.....we will soon find out....
One of the interesting aspects to the new policy is that you can avoid your first suspension by obtaining "treatment"(ala rehab) for your problem. But continued use of that or ANY substance(including alcohol, ask Josh) will get you fined and or suspended.....
Interesting speculation...
I thought Josh was under an alcohol prohibition due to a DWI that occurred apart from his "substance" transgressions.
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Adam schefter reports chip kelly and Philly are on the outs
I saw that clip on ESPN, the Eagle fan's want Kelly's ass on a skewer.Adam schefter reports chip kelly and Philly are on the outs
Tough crowd.
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