First Draft Pick Must be a QB - Paxton
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VesnaKociper said:
Name me ONE GAME Joe Thomas has won for us. You can't. No fucking highlight films, no touchdowns, Not even any measurable impact. Our QBs got hurt from the left side probably more than any other team in the history of the NFL and college football. The Browns can't run flet because JT is physically pretty much on the weak scale of LTs. He has good balance and quickness, but really, he is a pussy in his position. He was a total waste of a fucking draft pick.
One game?
Yesterday. The offensive line won that game. @250 yards rushing....and JFF had all day.
(against a bad team? sure....but it was a win dominated by the Browns OL)
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VesnaKociper said:
Name me ONE GAME Joe Thomas has won for us. You can't. No fucking highlight films, no touchdowns, Not even any measurable impact. Our QBs got hurt from the left side probably more than any other team in the history of the NFL and college football. The Browns can't run flet because JT is physically pretty much on the weak scale of LTs. He has good balance and quickness, but really, he is a pussy in his position. He was a total waste of a fucking draft pick.
One game?
Yesterday. The offensive line won that game. @250 yards rushing....and JFF had all day.
(against a bad team? sure....but it was a win dominated by the Browns OL)
One game?
Yesterday. The offensive line won that game. @250 yards rushing....and JFF had all day.
(against a bad team? sure....but it was a win dominated by the Browns OL)
Exactamundo.
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VesnaKociper said:
The ONLY pick in the group that was worth the gamble was BE.
OK, but we lost that gamble.
I called out those other assholes as losers before they ever took a snap. You jackoffs are getting hung up on THE POSITION and not the PLAYER. Taking shit like WEEDEN, MANZIEL and QUINN is NOT representative of spending a high draft pick on a player with GREAT upside. We already knew they were shit before we picked them. Fucking Brady Quinn would have gone in the late 3d round if the asshole Browns didn't waste a pick on him. K2 fucked himself....he had the skills. Richardson was likewise a pick only a jackoff thought was good. We have not drafted a QB the caliber of Paxton in decades.
A lot of hindsight insight in there Ghoolie. No one would have taken these guys if they knew they would suck.
But you bitch about the one draft pick made that did suck....JT.
Glad now that you see the light.
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if Paxton has a 50/50 chance of being our franchise QB for the next decade then its an extremely easy pick. how many games has jj watt won this year?
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Regardless of our lack of talent at other positions, we need to draft Paxton. Forget seeing what Johnny has during the last 4 games...he needs to be released of traded after the season's end. Can the Browns take the chance of him repeating his antics going into next year? Take the chance of having to release/trade him during next year's season? Do the veteran players actually want to play with a "leader" like Manziel? No, on all counts.
This Manziel circus is 100% the fault of the front office/head coach. They knew they were taking a huge risk when they couldn't afford to take a risk. They're the ones who let us down, not Johnny. Heck, the poor kid has a serious addiction to alcohol....he is an alcoholic, period. What did they expect him to do...be cured of alcoholism by promoting him to the starter? Give an alcoholic a reason to drink and he will drink. Whether it's due to good news (celebration) or bad news (drowning one's sorrows), he IS going to drink. He will not quit at this age. He will cover up his drinking, deny he is drinking, and lie to everyone about his drinking. This kid needs to hit absolute, rock-bottom. Being named an NFL starter and making millions/year is not rock-bottom.
The Browns need to realize this and write him off. We need to try, again, to find our franchise QB as you're not going to win without one. Paxton represent the best chance at finding a franchise QB in this draft, and we can't wait till the next draft. He needs some development time but he is our best bet at 6'7", 245lbs., cannon arm, rare athleticism for a tall guy, and good decision-making.
Pull the trigger.
wow you really hate him.Pull the trigger.
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if Paxton has a 50/50 chance of being our franchise QB for the next decade then its an extremely easy pick. how many games has jj watt won this year?
if Paxton has a 50/50 chance of being our franchise QB for the next decade then its an extremely easy pick. how many games has jj watt won this year?
The same as franchise qb Brian Hoyer. Meanwhile, Luke kuechly has won as many as his franchise qb.
How many has Matt Ryan won? Philip rivers? Joe flacco? Anyone here would trade any of our guys for one of them straight up, yet they combined have won 13 games.
A franchise qb is nice, and necessary, but so are many other things. Unless you have a first ballot hall of fame like Brady or younger manning, you need a team as well.
Every time we draft a qb high and throw them in to the fire expecting to paper over all of our cracks and somehow elevate a mediocre at best group of skill players while carrying a bottom feeding D we set our team back another 3 or 4 years.
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if Paxton has a 50/50 chance of being our franchise QB for the next decade then its an extremely easy pick. how many games has jj watt won this year?
We've never been better set to not have to throw that QB into the fire than we will be going into 2016...
... except of course for "the best fans in the world" demanding it.
if Paxton has a 50/50 chance of being our franchise QB for the next decade then its an extremely easy pick.
Interesting...
I have to believe the odds are better than 50/50 to spend an overall #1 on a QB... or a top 5... or a top 10...
Not sure where the point is in the draft when 50/50 would be acceptable, but late Day 1 is getting close. But even then would still depend upon other talent available.
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if Paxton has a 50/50 chance of being our franchise QB for the next decade then its an extremely easy pick. how many games has jj watt won this year?
if Paxton has a 50/50 chance of being our franchise QB for the next decade then its an extremely easy pick. how many games has jj watt won this year?
First off, really ANY pick has a 50/50 chance at being a successful one. That said, if you should find yourself looking at Lynch and at any time thinking to yourself that you just don't see the surefire, bonafide #1 Overall (Peyton, Luck as recent examples) then chances are its a smart idea to take a pass.
Football teams are ecosystems, when the positions are too far out of balance the team does not thrive except under rare conditions.
That said, how many games has JJ Watt won this year? Well seeing as how the Texans defense has kept them in a few W's, I'd say at least couple on his own.
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i didn't say 50/50 to be successful. I said "50/50 chance of being our franchise QB for the next decade" Blake B is the guy he is most comparable to and it is looking like Blake is going to be a part of the Jags for years to come. If we had a Franchise QB i would be saying we draft bosa sure or treadwell or henry or coleman or smith but the fact of the matter is we have an old man playing his best football in his twilight years. John the Gimmick QB with Piles of disruptive Baggage and Bullshit and davis a fine backup qb. We need to keep taking a shot at the QB spot until we hit it and its just that simple. I hope we take lynch or lynch falls to us he is the most impressive Total QB of this draft. (though Connor Cook has the better arm talent but more inconsistent).
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i didn't say 50/50 to be successful. I said "50/50 chance of being our franchise QB for the next decade" Blake B is the guy he is most comparable to and it is looking like Blake is going to be a part of the Jags for years to come. If we had a Franchise QB i would be saying we draft bosa sure or treadwell or henry or coleman or smith but the fact of the matter is we have an old man playing his best football in his twilight years. John the Gimmick QB with Piles of disruptive Baggage and Bullshit and davis a fine backup qb. We need to keep taking a shot at the QB spot until we hit it and its just that simple. I hope we take lynch or lynch falls to us he is the most impressive Total QB of this draft. (though Connor Cook has the better arm talent but more inconsistent).
i didn't say 50/50 to be successful. I said "50/50 chance of being our franchise QB for the next decade" Blake B is the guy he is most comparable to and it is looking like Blake is going to be a part of the Jags for years to come. If we had a Franchise QB i would be saying we draft bosa sure or treadwell or henry or coleman or smith but the fact of the matter is we have an old man playing his best football in his twilight years. John the Gimmick QB with Piles of disruptive Baggage and Bullshit and davis a fine backup qb. We need to keep taking a shot at the QB spot until we hit it and its just that simple. I hope we take lynch or lynch falls to us he is the most impressive Total QB of this draft. (though Connor Cook has the better arm talent but more inconsistent).
What if "John the Gimmick QB" wins two of the next three?
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i didn't say 50/50 to be successful. I said "50/50 chance of being our franchise QB for the next decade" Blake B is the guy he is most comparable to and it is looking like Blake is going to be a part of the Jags for years to come. If we had a Franchise QB i would be saying we draft bosa sure or treadwell or henry or coleman or smith but the fact of the matter is we have an old man playing his best football in his twilight years. John the Gimmick QB with Piles of disruptive Baggage and Bullshit and davis a fine backup qb. We need to keep taking a shot at the QB spot until we hit it and its just that simple. I hope we take lynch or lynch falls to us he is the most impressive Total QB of this draft. (though Connor Cook has the better arm talent but more inconsistent).
i didn't say 50/50 to be successful. I said "50/50 chance of being our franchise QB for the next decade" Blake B is the guy he is most comparable to and it is looking like Blake is going to be a part of the Jags for years to come. If we had a Franchise QB i would be saying we draft bosa sure or treadwell or henry or coleman or smith but the fact of the matter is we have an old man playing his best football in his twilight years. John the Gimmick QB with Piles of disruptive Baggage and Bullshit and davis a fine backup qb. We need to keep taking a shot at the QB spot until we hit it and its just that simple. I hope we take lynch or lynch falls to us he is the most impressive Total QB of this draft. (though Connor Cook has the better arm talent but more inconsistent).
Taking a shot at the QB spot for the sake of doing it is what sets franchises back. Please look at the recent history of Jacksonville, Tampa, San Fran, Minnesota and the Browns for god sake.
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in all those cases another team picking before them got a Good to great QB. we are the team picking before them now.
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i didn't say 50/50 to be successful. I said "50/50 chance of being our franchise QB for the next decade" Blake B is the guy he is most comparable to and it is looking like Blake is going to be a part of the Jags for years to come. If we had a Franchise QB i would be saying we draft bosa sure or treadwell or henry or coleman or smith but the fact of the matter is we have an old man playing his best football in his twilight years. John the Gimmick QB with Piles of disruptive Baggage and Bullshit and davis a fine backup qb. We need to keep taking a shot at the QB spot until we hit it and its just that simple. I hope we take lynch or lynch falls to us he is the most impressive Total QB of this draft. (though Connor Cook has the better arm talent but more inconsistent).
What if "John the Gimmick QB" wins two of the next three?
What if "John the Gimmick QB" wins two of the next three?
Then he will deserve one of those super hero monikers.
Pick one:
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in all those cases another team picking before them got a Good to great QB. we are the team picking before them now.
in all those cases another team picking before them got a Good to great QB. we are the team picking before them now.
That's my point. The great QB's were off the board and the one's their respective teams took were highly questionable.
In a draft that isn't deep at the QB position, what product are you expecting us to have in Paxton?
You can look me in the eye after watching his tape and say he's a day 1 starter with the Browns?
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i see no reason that he couldn't be a day one starter but i think mccown to start next season would be good
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Gipper I kind of like "Fanboy" in honor of those of us who followed him over.
OK, Ok, then Lightning Lad or Tiagra (since many think he gets the whole team up for games).
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i see no reason that he couldn't be a day one starter but i think mccown to start next season would be good
i see no reason that he couldn't be a day one starter but i think mccown to start next season would be good
Then he isn't your #1 overall pick. Pretty simple.
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i haven't seen anyone else be as impressive at a spot the browns need.
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Is Dan McGwire still available?
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i haven't seen anyone else be as impressive at a spot the browns need.
i haven't seen anyone else be as impressive at a spot the browns need.
Have you watched anyone else?
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